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spacedog 12-19-2001 09:47 AM

Quote:

really small print at the bottom of the terms:
your 3 dollars for months of traffic is forfiet
$3.00 a month my ass motherfucker..Mojo search has only been on my site for 2days now..HUH..& my site was down for most of those 2 days..BITCH...
It would have ended up being alot more assfuck...

Evil Chris 12-19-2001 09:48 AM


Sorry to interrupt, but uh, I thought that the interview went all right... Pretty safe questions though, like 12 Clicks said...

Yeah, well back to the 'other' discussion.

:-)


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spacedog 12-19-2001 09:51 AM

From sites that no longer send you traffic..
You're such a fucking cunt..
Because they NO LONGER send traffic you think that's reason to not pay me..fuck you asswipe..according to my stats on sic accounts traffic did not stop til nov 2001..SO..where's my fucking checks from prior & up to 11/2001..ASSHOLE..
You accused me of cheating..
What site/page/url contained the exit console & auto refresh that you have wrongfully accused me of employing..
Back it up..because it is you that has slandered..




TheFLY 12-19-2001 09:59 AM

http://onlybabes.onestop.net/Alien124.gif The totally funny thing is that this guy is for real and not a Boneprone character.


spacedog 12-19-2001 10:01 AM

And for the record..
No derogatory statements were made about mojo SO, you better pay..When it is due!!
Mojo is owned by Invisible Inc.
NOT standard internet corp..

BITCH!!!!!!

spacedog 12-19-2001 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY:
http://onlybabes.onestop.net/Alien124.gif The totally funny thing is that this guy is for real and not a Boneprone character.


Of course I'm for real..What would ever make you think I was boneprone character??

Or you mean 12cunts is a boneprone character

Gary 12-19-2001 10:09 AM

Spacedog, if you ever plan on making more than 3 bucks, you really should pick your enemies a little better.

Besides, if you were such a player, you wouldnt be using free hosting and posting your galleries everywhere hoping tgp's will post them.

Gary 12-19-2001 10:18 AM

http://spacedog.noheaders.com/gallerysubmit.htm

Wow, what a deal you got going here. LOL

Lexxx 12-19-2001 10:18 AM

...
Long time ago I posted a thread about too much pissing on GFY... well I guess nothing changed since then http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif
...

and now back to the interview discussion... oops I mean the "other" usual discussion which is a "standard" when 12clicks name is involved LOL no pun intended...

12 clicks - is that what you have to go through for running a clicks program...? damn

spacedog 12-19-2001 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary:
Spacedog, if you ever plan on making more than 3 bucks, you really should pick your enemies a little better.

Besides, if you were such a player, you wouldnt be using free hosting and posting your galleries everywhere hoping tgp's will post them.


Who said I picked an enemy..
I read an article about a webmaster & find out that webmaster is a partner webmaster that is partially responsible for being a CROOK..He was the one that fucked 1000's of webmasters,,NOT ME..& for the record..I play by the rules..always have..Now 12clicks wants to not pay for mojo..Why..because that's what fucking crooks do..I never broke any rules of SIC or MOJO..In regards to MOJO..I just started using them 2 days ago & was planning on putting up alot more pages with mojo search on it..

And who ever said I was a player..You all know that I am pretty much new to the adult web scene..Player..I never said no such thing..Besides..I don't use urban lingo & would never used that coloquial slang term...

SO..what's wrong with free hosting..NOTHING!
Post my galleries on TGP's & hope they get listed..DUH..They do get listed..That's pretty much what most of the gallery makers do!! DUH..even paysites have their own shit listed on tgp's DUH!! So fucking what...

I never made no enemy of 12clicks..Never even fucking knew he was part of sic or mojo til today...he made an enemy of me!!
Besides..he don't owe me 3 bucks..do the math..it's over 100 for bulkclicks..several hundred for allclicks..

You know... I go through the effort of making the link & such & trying to get traffic..If fuckers like that continue to not pay..How the fuck could one pay for hosting..
It's companies like sic that I don't use pay hosting..because I am trying to earn some $$ here & I am not going to PAY for hosting to send some rip off scam my traffic with money I paid for hosting....If the fuckers that owe me would pay..,maybe I could get pay hosting...SIC isnt the only one that owes..
redhot owes me over $2000. They fucking cheat too..there's a few more..Pay hosting..If people would stop fucking me maybe I could get payhost..
Only sponsors that paid when I first started were ARS & Sexkey..Over 20 others never paid me..that was then..
Now I got a few more that I trust..like adult.com sponsors, & some others..but there's few sponsors I used to use befor that owe me & I am pissed..just that the interview reminded me..I said Oh yeah..he runs SIC..& he's a member of GFY..I just got pissed..I don't like getting fucked...


People keep fucking me & not paying me..that's why no payhost...Besides..I already went in enough detail about a personal disaster in my life that pretty much sums it up why I have no $$$ for hosting..that's starting to change hopefully with NEW HONEST SPONSORS..like Adult.com, lightspeed, XS & few others...



TheFLY 12-19-2001 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog:
From sites that no longer send you traffic..
You're such a fucking cunt..

Spacedog, just cut your loses and move on... You're lucky you only lost $100, or whatever it was... Think of it as a learning experience. How did you choose 12Click's program? As soon as you saw his TOS you should have moved on. After I was canceled from Cyberotica for "having a TGP" -- I learned you have to read that TOS very carefully... You can usually tell if someone is reasonable by reading their rules or TOS. Did someone recommend SIC to you? Maybe you need better advice. Maybe you should focus more on your traffic first... with a little more traffic you'll be appreciated more by the people you advertise for and trade with... and maybe people will actually listen to you whine -- or maybe not ;) If you don't move on and learn from this experience, I can guarantee it will happen to you again. Unless you are sending traffic to someone you know and trust personally, always be prepapared to not get paid... then you won't be so suprised when the check doesn't come.

spacedog 12-19-2001 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary:
http://spacedog.noheaders.com/gallerysubmit.htm

Wow, what a deal you got going here. LOL

You like that http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

I thought it all up myself http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

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On-top 12-19-2001 10:34 AM


This spacedog thing is just too funny not to post a reply to.

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog:

Bulkclicks:
3/2001 owes me $ 33.28
6/2001 owes me $ 34.90
12/2001 currently at $23.51



Umm...so you sent traffic for a whole year to a sponsor that didn't pay you? You're not even a good cheater...

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog:

PAYBACK's a bitch..
I hope SIC likes the BW bill..
Is Sic ready to handle the 150,000mbps....

ROFLMAO!


Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog:

WHERE..NOW FUCKING PAY ME!!!
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Now fucking fess up & PAY!!

Have these lines worked for you in the past?


Listen, Ron pays people. He and the people he's worked with have since back in the day. Sure he has discussions, disagreements, and run-ins with other businesses...so does everyone else. But he really doesn't have any motivation to just kick people out of the programs when the overhead of servicing those additional webmasters is as low as it is now. It's just additional revenue that SIC gets.

Something wasn't kosher with your traffic, and you got kicked from the program. You didn't get paid. You kept sending traffic.


Stop crying and go to your room.



spacedog 12-19-2001 10:45 AM

Thanks Fly..
The traffic from those pages died when I gave up on them..
those pages are almost a year old & I only worked on them for a few weeks..

On pages that I do update & work on regularly, the traffic is there..Besides..it wasnt about traffic..it was about money..
I read that TOS so many times & there's no legit reason for them to fuck me like that..
Personally..I could give a rats ass about the $$$ I just wanted to expose 12clicks for the cheating lying cunt he is! http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif

I got checks coming this week from ARS, EraserCash, SexKEY, Premier-Blind, Focalex,& CJ..who needs fucking SIC check..just woulda been nice to get it for Xmas shopping for the kids..After all, that's why I tried becoming webmaster in first place..make money, spend more time with kids..spend more money with/ on kids http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif
People like 12clicks wouldnt understand things like that..CROOKS..
When I was in vegas many years ago..I swear this black jack dealer looked just like him..funny part was that the black jack dealer was a crook too..
Friend of mine on NV state police knew the guy..had a bad , bad rap..well known crook..
very doubtful that was him..But just though it was funny how crooks could look alike..

spacedog 12-19-2001 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by On-top:

This spacedog thing is just too funny not to post a reply to.

Have these lines worked for you in the past?


Listen, Ron pays people. He and the people he's worked with have since back in the day. Sure he has discussions, disagreements, and run-ins with other businesses...so does everyone else. But he really doesn't have any motivation to just kick people out of the programs when the overhead of servicing those additional webmasters is as low as it is now. It's just additional revenue that SIC gets.

Something wasn't kosher with your traffic, and you got kicked from the program. You didn't get paid. You kept sending traffic.


Stop crying and go to your room.


More bull..I stopped working on that site AFTER the cunt did'nt pay me!! I just didn't feel like deleting it..One. my fucking house burned down a few weeks after I built that page & I havent seen that pages for seven months..two..I cant delete it because i dont even know my account info for that host..

I just decided to see if the sic sponsor made $$$ & it did..there's many months missing..they deleted most of the stats..seems now they're getting deleted faster since this post.....

On-top 12-19-2001 11:08 AM


Spacedog, sucks that your house burned. I will not dispute that fact. But limiting your losses is part of being in business. You should maintain access to your sites, if they are your livelyhood, and implement changes to fit the situation. That's business. I understand the fact that links get out there, and unmaintained. But you can't bitch about that fact. Your job is to maintain them.

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog:

PAYBACK's a bitch..
I hope SIC likes the BW bill..
Is Sic ready to handle the 150,000mbps....

Besides, this is still hilarious.


BradShaw 12-19-2001 11:09 AM

BTW, someone mentioned that there are two SIC's.

True, us, Shaw Internet Consultants and Standard Internet Corp.

And just like the other SIC, we do not pay cheaters and scammers. We have done big business with 12Clicks and SIC over the years, and I can assure you they pay;-)

spacedog 12-19-2001 11:19 AM

Brad..that's the whole point I was tryibg to make..Nobody cheated..He just plain fucks people..Brad, seriously, when was the last time a Shaw internet check bounced? Never..right..I know you pay..But this standardinternetcopr on the other hand..Well, I give up..My point was not bitching..just that I hate companies that fuck their webmasters & I decided to expose this asshole..
I never cheated & he know's it..You know it, the other webmasters of GFY know it..fuck..there's thousands of people out there that know sic cheats....end of discussion..

12clicks 12-19-2001 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog:
my fucking house burned down a few weeks after I built that page

That should have been your first clue that cheating doesn't pay.

TheFLY 12-19-2001 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog:
I never cheated & he know's it..You know it, the other webmasters of GFY know it..fuck..there's thousands of people out there that know sic cheats....end of discussion..
Wake up man. Everyone cheats. Welcome to the real world.

Darren 12-19-2001 11:42 AM

Spacedog _ Learn a lesson from all this,

use a different sponsor, why if a company doesnt pay you do you use them again eg Mojosearch?

GET serious about this biz, get off the noheaders.com free host and put your site on an host, start some projects instead of posting useless bitching threads on here, think of some new ideas.

Since I started reading your posts I get the impression you are a child, but then you contradict this by saying you are buying presents for your children, well stop acting like a child yourself and start BEING SERIOUS about what you are doing.

By swearing at 12clicks and trying to belittle him is pointless and ruins your reputation if you have one that is, grow up.

Regarding Standard Internet I have had good experiences with them, the reality is they do pay if you send them proper traffic. Dont try and bullshit us here, theres obviously something you did, but you think "ahhh he can't prove how i sent dodgy traffic so I will pretend i sent legitimate traffic and bitch all year about him"

again grow up, take it seriously, someone once told me this. Maybe this post will not effect you at all and have no impression on you, it should be apparent by your reply.

Daz.

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Kimmykim 12-19-2001 12:01 PM

Shap? You there?


Spud 12-19-2001 12:07 PM

Great interview.

spacedog 12-19-2001 12:08 PM

Darren..
I understand what you are telling me..
I did learn my lesson..that is why I stopped promoting SIC programs..
As far as using them again goes..I never intended too..SIC is widely known for such practices & has the clause in their terms..AKA.."We'll fuck you for whatever reason we feel like"..I never made the connection with invisible inc & standard internet when I read that clause in mojo..there was no indication on mojo that it is a sic site/program..12clicks even admitted that he INTENTIONALLY PLANS on fucking me yet another time with a completely differerent program & sponsor that he runs..

It should have never gone as far as posting it on a public forum..However, standard internet corp has a long practice..(In my personal experience) of not replying to e-mails..Thus, when the opportunity presented it self, I decided to bitch..I could give a rats ass about the money..
I am VERY serious about this business..
I choose a sponsor & I follow the rules..I expect my sponsors to follow up on their end of the bargain..I don't care if it's per click, per sign up, whatever..12clicks blatantly accused me of cheating..this is entirely untrue..he won't admit it, but he know's I am right..send proper traffic?? Right..That I did..But did I get paid for it? NO..
Quote:

Dont try and bullshit us here, theres obviously something you did, but you think "ahhh he can't prove how i sent dodgy traffic so I will pretend i sent legitimate traffic and bitch all year about him"
I can prove that the pages I have that contain SIC links have not been updated since the site went online..Now, If the links have been exactly the same since my ftp to the server, which also coincides with the start of my affilliate with SIC..then I have proof that I did NOT cheat..
Do you know why 12clicks can't prove it..BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED!!..

He blatantly came out & threratened to not pay for mojo..which has nothing to do with SIC..hahaha..That show's what kind of character he is...

Quote:

GET serious about this biz, get off the noheaders.com free host and put your site on an host
..

Yeah..Great..so not only do sponsors like sic not have to pay me, I have to spend my money to send them traffic too!! Give me a fucking break...

I'll pay for hosting when I feel that I have enough tools & knowledge in this corrupt industry & how it works..
When I know who pays, who don't..what works, what don't..what sells, what don't, etc, etc, etc..THEN, i'll get payhost..
I got payhost for mainstream sites..BUT, for new ventures in such cutthroat industry like this..Better wait..I had enough losses..
I used to promote redhot sites..Sent over 500+ signups in a year..Not a single dime was mailed to me!!! Imagine how ripped I woulda been had I also spent money for hosting http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif


spacedog 12-19-2001 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks:

That should have been your first clue that cheating doesn't pay.

Hey fucknut..You'll remember me when we meet in vegas fuckhead http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif...We've met before..assfuck..You have no fucking clue..

flight from jersey to vegas....

january motherfucker!!!!!!!!

On-top 12-19-2001 12:18 PM


Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog:
Hey fucknut..You'll remember me when we meet in vegas fuckhead http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif...We've met before..assfuck..You have no fucking clue..

flight from jersey to vegas....

january motherfucker!!!!!!!!


I'm just glad you're a professional about this.


Darren 12-19-2001 12:21 PM

For a moment i thought you was acting like an adult then i read

"Hey fucknut..You'll remember me when we meet in vegas fuckhead ...We've met before..assfuck..You have no fucking clue.."

spacedog go back to your apparently really successful mainstream sites, kid.

12clicks 12-19-2001 12:25 PM

Quote:

translation of spacedogs lies:
Darren..
I understand what you are telling me..
I did learn my lesson..that is why I stopped cheating SIC programs..
As far as using them again goes..I never intended too..SIC is widely known for such practices & has the clause in their terms..AKA.."We'll fuck you when you cheat us"..I never made the connection with mojosearch & standard internet when I read that clause because I'm generally clueless about this business..12clicks even admitted that I broke the TOS of a completely differerent program & sponsor that he runs..

It should have never gone as far as posting it on a public forum..However, standard internet corp has a long practice..(In my personal experience) of not replying to cheater's e-mails..Thus, since I cheated, I decided to bitch..I could give a rats ass about the money even though 5 posts ago I was bitching about the money
I am VERY serious about this business..
I choose a sponsor & try to cheat them..I expect my sponsors to notify me when I'm caught so I can refine my cheating technique..I don't care if it's per click, per sign up, whatever..12clicks caught me of blatantly cheating..this is entirely true..I won't admit it, but he know's I am a cheater..send proper traffic?? Right..how would I do that?..But should I get paid for it? NO..
Quote:

Dont try and bullshit us here, theres obviously something you did, but you think "ahhh he can't prove how i sent dodgy traffic so I will pretend i sent legitimate traffic and bitch all year about him"
I can prove that the pages I have that contain SIC links have not been updated since the site went online..and they'll never find the ones I used to cheat with.Now, If the links have been exactly the same since my ftp to the server, which also coincides with the start of my affilliate with SIC..then people might buy this lie..
Do you know why 12clicks won't prove it..BECAUSE THE 50 BUCKS I TRIED TO STEAL FROM HIM WOULDN'T BUY HIS LUNCH!!..

He blatantly came out & saidhe would not pay for mojo..which is owned by SIC..hahaha..That show's what kind of idiot I am...

Quote:

GET serious about this biz, get off the noheaders.com free host and put your site on an host
..

Yeah..Great..so not only do sponsors like sic catch me cheating, I have to spend my money to cheat them too!! Give me a fucking break...

I'll pay for hosting when I feel that I have enough tools & knowledge in this corrupt industry to get over on the sponsors..
When I know who can be cheated, who can't..what works, what don't..THEN, i'll get payhost..
I got payhost for mainstream sites (cheating there was easy until SIC showed up)..BUT, for new ventures in such savvy industry like this..Better wait..I had enough losses..
I used to cheat redhot sites..Sent over 500+ fake signups in a year..Not a single dime was mailed to me!!! Imagine how ripped I woulda been had I also spent money for hosting http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif


I think this is what he was trying to say. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif

spacedog 12-19-2001 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren:
For a moment i thought you was acting like an adult then i read

"Hey fucknut..You'll remember me when we meet in vegas fuckhead ...We've met before..assfuck..You have no fucking clue.."

spacedog go back to your apparently really successful mainstream sites, kid.

That fucking quip from 12clicks was what really pissed me off..
People fucking died that day..he just really fucking pissed me off..real fucking bad..

I just booked my fucking flight...

Later...

Kimmykim 12-19-2001 12:29 PM

Oh they reply to emails. I've seen some of them and they aren't the kind of replies you forget.

I hope you booked on National you guys might meet BEFORE you get to Vegas lol...

12clicks 12-19-2001 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog:
Hey fucknut..You'll remember me when we meet in vegas fuckhead http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif...We've met before..assfuck..You have no fucking clue..

flight from jersey to vegas....

january motherfucker!!!!!!!!

I'm frightened mommy! hold me. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif

spacedog 12-19-2001 12:33 PM

HEY 12cunts..Now you're going TOO FUCKING FAR...

I never cheated..You're a fucking damn liar & you know it...

Just pray you recognize me this january before it's too late for you to run..

Go fucking renew your nambla subscription you fucking gay PEDO...

I hope your up to date with your listing on the sex offenders registry in nevada...



12clicks 12-19-2001 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog:

Go fucking renew your nambla subscription you fucking gay PEDO...

I hope your up to date with your listing on the sex offenders registry in nevada...

yikes, he's jumped to a topic he feels comfortable with. I'm in trouble now.

spacedog 12-19-2001 12:47 PM

Pretty fucking pathetic of you 12cunts....

I challenged you to show the truth..
Go ahead..hide behind your fucking lies..I know I never cheated ANY fucking SPONSOR..EVER!!! What you think is of no fucking importance of me whatsoever..I don't give a shit..
Go about your fucking bullshit as usual..
You state your case..
You validate your case..
You conclude..

You have not even validated your case..
You're just a little boy loving cocksucker who's all talk..
I accused you first, with TRUTH..
You however choose to act like a prick as usual & start making off the wall bullshit..
Whatever..I don't give a fucking rats ass about you or SIC or MOJO for that matter..Better yet..FUCK MOJO..You won't pay..I'll just remove the link..There's plenty of sponsors that'll be happy to have a banner at the top of 588 pages on 6k a day site on a free host..So, you lose..NOT ME..
However, your rep is getting thinner & dirtier by the minute..That much is true..
You may hide behind lies, but the truth is out there...


spacedog 12-19-2001 12:51 PM

Quote:

yikes, he's jumped to a topic he feels comfortable with. I'm in trouble now.
What's your fucking point..Or do you ever have one?

12clicks 12-19-2001 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog:
Pretty fucking pathetic of you 12cunts....

I challenged you to show the truth..
Go ahead..hide behind your fucking lies..I know I never cheated ANY fucking SPONSOR..EVER!!! What you think is of no fucking importance of me whatsoever..I don't give a shit..
Go about your fucking bullshit as usual..
You state your case..
You validate your case..
You conclude..

You have not even validated your case..
You're just a little boy loving cocksucker who's all talk..
I accused you first, with TRUTH..
You however choose to act like a prick as usual & start making off the wall bullshit..
Whatever..I don't give a fucking rats ass about you or SIC or MOJO for that matter..Better yet..FUCK MOJO..You won't pay..I'll just remove the link..There's plenty of sponsors that'll be happy to have a banner at the top of 588 pages on 6k a day site on a free host..So, you lose..NOT ME..
However, your rep is getting thinner & dirtier by the minute..That much is true..
You may hide behind lies, but the truth is out there...


60 posts in and NOW he doesn't give a rats ass. haha funny.

he likes those young boy lines though. his comfort level is growing.


jimmyf 12-19-2001 12:58 PM

How come I didn't get a check from Mojo, were's my CHECK?


Jim

Gary 12-19-2001 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog:
Hey fucknut..You'll remember me when we meet in vegas fuckhead http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif...We've met before..assfuck..You have no fucking clue..

flight from jersey to vegas....

january motherfucker!!!!!!!!

You probably wont see 12clicks on the flight. He'll be in first class, you'll be flying stand-by.

On-top 12-19-2001 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog:
What's your fucking point..Or do you ever have one?

Hmmm....I think part of it was when you began talking specifics about gay pedophiles. Seemed pretty freaky for a thread running on an interview and sponsor cheating. At least, that was my take.


Roberto 12-19-2001 01:08 PM

can you guys stop the insults thing and post some proofs?
so long i've only read bad things about 12clicks and/or his programs (not at boards but the most surprising is the sexape/picwarehouse "blacklist" and at another rules page that said "no mojosearch boxes" that i can't remember now)
how did spacedog exactly cheat?
that would help a lot i think.
just because 12clicks had proof of other webmasters cheating his programs doesn't mean he is right every time? or does it?


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