Dumped Chameleon

[teksonline]

Dumped Chameleon submitter today, 20 bucks for barely any traffic anymore..

I think i see theyre problem, they're trying to force tgp's to recip link back to them on all the submit pages...

I see many old ass tgp's that have traffic not in this database,

these things are very bad business in my opinion, i have gotten maybe 50 worthless hits a day submitting using this tool, x 20 bucks and my bandwidth bills, no thanks

Ill stick to using the five favorites tgp's 3 of which aint even in chameleon and let the traffic roll like normal

[hjnet]

You might wanna try out one of my Databases at http://www.adultsponsortest.com/advancedsubmitter.htm in combination with Advancedsubmitter.

You can use them as your starting point to build your own Database with Partner Accounts and TGPs that list you.

[pornguy]

I use Chameleon as well. and have noticed a major drop in traffic the last few weeks..

[flashfreak]

we noticed this too...

[KMR Stitch]

yeah I think I submitted 3,000 gallerys to every niche I could find. and I got a total of 70 hits the next day then 20 the day after.

[CybermedAndy]

I thought mine was busted the hits were so low.

[wdsguy]

Its not a problem with the program, you don't have enough high traffic partner accounts

[Sosa]

advanced submitter

[tornell]

I have over 300k hits per day with CS ..I love it btw use my refferal )

[Strife]

Looks like Chameleon submitter is going to shit. I was thinking about trying it out//not anymore. I'll stick with Dream submitter

[Babaganoosh]

If you MUST submit galleries, use advancedsubmitter and take the time to build your own database. That's the only way to make it.

[margarita]

The problem is not in Chameleon, nowadays best sites are switching to partner
submissions only, you need to get some to have better traffic.

[hjnet]

More and more Sites are switching to partner accounts, f.e. when I've started to sell my Databases ~ 1 year ago I had a list in it of ~70 TGPs that required a partner accounts, now 12 months later ~300 TGPs are only accepting posts from partners anymore.

But people make the mistake to see that as a disadvantage, and that's wrong IMHO, it's rather easy these days to get partner accounts, you'd only have to request them, and if you're galleries are good you'll get them. I've spent only 2 days last week with applying for partner accounts, and I've received ~60 new accounts until today, so that wasn't too difficult.
So in my opinion it's now even easier to make money with submitting galleries then it was a few years ago, cause back then I had to compete with every cheating/crappy gallery submitter out there, and now I have the possibillity to request a partner account, and to "network" with TGP owners rather quickly.
Times only have changed, and you'd have to change too or quit

[natas]

damn i thought something was wrong too...could this be it

[reynold]

Good move.

[SomeCreep]

Originally Posted by tornell

I have over 300k hits per day with CS ..I love it btw use my refferal )

Yes, everyone knows, all you need to do is use an auto submitter and you will get 300k hits per day to your galleries.

BLING BLING BABY!

[ffmihai]

chameleon is a tool... what the heck you want it to get partener accounts for you ? you have to do that yourself. its not enough to buy a trade script, you have to get the traffic to it yourself right? lazy ass ! besides, the updates at chameloen are made more often than any other submiter!

[andrej_NDC]

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Yes, everyone knows, all you need to do is use an auto submitter and you will get 300k hits per day to your galleries.

BLING BLING BABY!

why not? I got even more and it doesnt matter if its an autosubmitter or not. It does the submitting job for you and saves your time. Its not a wonder traffic tool. If you have plenty of partner accounts, you can implement them all in chameleon and submit within minutes...

[andrej_NDC]

REALITY CHECK: Its a tool that makes submitting easier and faster, its not a magic traffic machine, chameleon doesnt send the traffic, the sites do!

[margarita]

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

REALITY CHECK: Its a tool that makes submitting easier and faster, its not a magic traffic machine, chameleon doesnt send the traffic, the sites do!

I could not write it better

[Corleone]

what andrej said..

its the prog that helps you with your submissions..
you've to make good galls and get the accounts to get the traffic

[Stacey_JoinRightNow]

i heard GOOD things about chameleon...thanks fo rthis thread too..

[V_RocKs]

It sucks.. use Advanced Submitter!

[Mefo]

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

REALITY CHECK: Its a tool that makes submitting easier and faster, its not a magic traffic machine, chameleon doesnt send the traffic, the sites do!

yup andrej you're right, I don't have a problem with traffic dropping yet....

[fusionx]

Originally Posted by Armed & Hammered

If you MUST submit galleries, use advancedsubmitter and take the time to build your own database. That's the only way to make it.

Just pointing out you can do the same with Chameleon. You can add your own sites, add partner accounts, whatever you want.

I like Chameleon's interface a lot more than advancedsubmitter's, and I like that it comes with around 2,000 sites to start with, with weekly updates of dead, new and modified sites. Modified meaning new recips, changed submission forms, new or changed niches, etc.

Whatever happened to DreamSubmitter? They were looking strong for a while. Haven't heard much about them lately.

[rounders]

Would most people choose Cham. over AdvancedSubmitter?

[dready]

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

REALITY CHECK: Its a tool that makes submitting easier and faster, its not a magic traffic machine, chameleon doesnt send the traffic, the sites do!

You really have to get partner accounts in there if you want serious traffic. That's true if you use a submitter or even do it manually.

[teksonline]

I am using some partner accounts, but they have no traffic, as stated, the tool does not have many entries of sites that I submit to that do have the traffic, because they are forcing recipricol links to get added to their database, I am paying the monthly fee for someone manage the database. That's the whole point of the fee, but they are forcing tgp's to link back to them? Then this is no longer a useful resource....
If i have to add all the info, then give me the program for 25 bucks one time fee and thats it.

Fact is, only tgp's being put in are lame webmasters looking for recipricol links to be created, I think you'll notice about 50 identical tgp's with the same gay link codes with just different words, and scammers that just want to promote their ad when you have to go to the submit page to enter that code. A tool is not a magic wand, i agree, but a monthly cost tool, should be a little bit more worthy, such as maybe skipping the 90000 tgp's and work with 50 good tgp's.

Perhaps if some places have partner accounts then they cant take submissions if they are not using them and should have at least info on how to get partner account link on their dam page.

Fact is it can take several hours to complete submissions, and most are going nowhere

[flashfreak]

ok, I understand it's just the tool, we fill our own tgps in the database!
BUT why should I pay for their database update $150/year if I don't use it then? beats me...

[dready]

I agree, the forcing TGP to put a recip to Chameleon is a REALLY BAD IDEA.

[tornell]

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Yes, everyone knows, all you need to do is use an auto submitter and you will get 300k hits per day to your galleries.

BLING BLING BABY!

wake up man!

I making galleries 6 years ... and with CS I making really good bucks.

But it's your convistion ..

[jayeff]

"You are welcome to submit your site for possible addition to the Advanced Submitter database. A precondition is to add some nice words and a link back to Advanced Submitter page (http://www.advancedsubmitter.com). The link back to Advanced Submitter should be from your submission page."

Your guess is as good as mine as to whether or not the program owners add sites at the request of their subscribers or simply because they are big enough to warrant inclusion, without requiring that recip. But at least publicly, there is no difference in this regard between Chameleon and AS (or most/all the other submission scripts). Sure a recip to the script is a lousy reason for listing a site, but why pick on one script owner for doing it?

And "teksonline" wants a $25 one-time fee, but who charges that? AS is $98 and if you don't want to build a database from scratch, look to spend another $150. Chameleon lets you in for $20 and gives you a reasonable database to get you started. It will take at least a year for Chameleon to cost as much as AS+database and long before that your AS database will be out of date except for those sites you have updated yourself. You can keep your favorite TGPs updated just as easily in Chameleon and leave them to stay on top of the smaller sites.

What I don't like about Chameleon is that there is no one-time option. You may not use/need their updates, but if you don't keep subscribing the work you put into your database is gone. And although they do update at least as often as anyone else, there are still quite a number of errors: some of them long-lived. There doesn't seem to be too much effort put into cleaning out the sites that never list anyone and accept submissions just to collect recips either, but I would hesitate to say they are worse than others in this respect.

[hjnet]

Originally Posted by tornell

I have over 300k hits per day with CS

Just because I'm curious, how much is 300k hits in uniques, 5000?

[DirtyRider]

I was thinking of switching to Chameleon this week, if anyone can convince me on why its better the AS, I'll sign up using your ref code.

AS has hotkeys such as alt-f to submit the page and alt-q to move to the next tab with the next submit page loaded. Does Chameleon have anything like this?

[BVF]

Advanced is the only tool that I would recommend for MANUAL submissions. However Chameleon is good for auto submissions and good for plucking out their manual submits and putting them into the AS database.

The email confirmer is worth $20 a month alone for Chameleon so what's the big deal?

[jayeff]

Originally Posted by BVF

Advanced is the only tool that I would recommend for MANUAL submissions.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I'm curious why you think as you do...

When it comes to manual submissions, GASS, roboform, in fact pretty much anything which populates the submission forms efficiently is doing all you need.

If I didn't auto-submit to all the small TGPs that are not worth manually submitting to or keeping updated myself, I wouldn't use Chameleon, AS or any similar scripts. IMO the one thing they all do well is the manual submissions and what sets them apart is cost and the effectiveness and frequency of their database updates.

[Praguer]

Originally Posted by teksonline

I am using some partner accounts, but they have no traffic, as stated, the tool does not have many entries of sites that I submit to that do have the traffic, because they are forcing recipricol links to get added to their database, I am paying the monthly fee for someone manage the database. That's the whole point of the fee, but they are forcing tgp's to link back to them? Then this is no longer a useful resource....
If i have to add all the info, then give me the program for 25 bucks one time fee and thats it.

Bad bad idea, I was also wondering myself about the quality of the database.

I'm not renewing my subscription to CS.

[PKP]

A group of us could get together and create our own elite open-source or partial open-source submitter. Then we'd have full control. Either that or one with plug-ins so people could write extensions for the software. Any programmers here? I'd be willing.

Now if greed came along and we needed to block immature users out from tapping into the code that's why I say: plug-ins or partially open-source.

Software are just blackboxes, but not if you can attack the code directly or indirectly with plug-ins.

[BVF]

Originally Posted by jayeff

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I'm curious why you think as you do...

When it comes to manual submissions, GASS, roboform, in fact pretty much anything which populates the submission forms efficiently is doing all you need.

If I didn't auto-submit to all the small TGPs that are not worth manually submitting to or keeping updated myself, I wouldn't use Chameleon, AS or any similar scripts. IMO the one thing they all do well is the manual submissions and what sets them apart is cost and the effectiveness and frequency of their database updates.

I've never used GASS so I can't comment on it. However, maybe I'm partial to AS because I used AS first so that's what I was comfortable with. If I started with Chameleon, it would probably be different. It's just a comfort issue....Plus I could let my chameleon account expire but I'll still have a permanent AS database that I'll never have to pay for again.

But I DEFINITELY recommend Chameleon. It's an essential tool for my business.

[Nifield]

Originally Posted by DirtyRider

I was thinking of switching to Chameleon this week, if anyone can convince me on why its better the AS, I'll sign up using your ref code.

AS has hotkeys such as alt-f to submit the page and alt-q to move to the next tab with the next submit page loaded. Does Chameleon have anything like this?

Try dreamsubmitter, it it makes it much easier than that

[PKP]

Anyone try "Russian TGP submitter" or "Gallery Submitter"?

Are they good or garbage?

[Tipsy]

Many people are also too daft to realise that Chameleon is a far from perfect tool. Even the non-partner sites in it will send OKish traffic (for the time it takes to click go well worth it) IF and only if you use it properly. You MUST manually check and filter the sites before hitting go or it'll simply submit to the wrong sites and get you blacklisted.

If your traffic from it is crap then you've been stupid enough to let it submit without manually checking and probably gained a lot of 'invisible' blacklist places.

As an example...you have a mature dildo gallery... if you select mature it'll submit to sites that only take full hardcore if they have a mature cat. If you select dildo it'll submit to teen sites with a dildo/toy cat. It's a MAJOR flaw in the program but 10-15 mins spent each time manually removing unsuitable sites before hitting go gets around it.