If you are stupid enough to shoot a model for a single girl website without getting her to sign an exclusivity contract, you deserve to loose that money.

not spending a couple hundread bucks to get a good and clear contract wrote is the problem right now

it was my first site.. i know i made that mistake.... i know now....

My point exactly, only one person at fault here, all the others were just trying to do biz.

Dude, launch the site already. Listen to ContentProducer. When the site doesnt make a buck anymore and she has a diferent job give that shit away for free.

trust me i have every intent to :) .. site will be up as soon as the design gets tweaked a little :)

start making free sites or galleries and work your arse off

you will make money and you will have to invest very little and will have nothing liek the responsibility of a paysite

this is such a common mistake peopke make - thinkin its real easy n shit - just open a paysite n youll be rich - anyways just read your post n thats it - all th best :)_

oh believe me, i will be working my ass off :)

Launch the site, no trials, like Jace said. Just sell the fuck outa what you got now and make back your money as much as you can.

Very intresting read.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh I think he is learning alot from you owning his ass

gonna throw my :2 cents: in on this real quick.
For starters, your not out as much money as your suggesting. The equipmnent is something you can use again and again and again with different models so you can't really include that in the loss. Your not out on money for the model because you have her content, and I can tell you this, its not the amount of content you have, its the quality of the content. I do not see where your out money.
The situation did not work out with that girl, get used to it and move on, launch the site, use her as the spokesperson, then add other content...its not hard. If you have good content use it, if you dont, toss it and start over. There is a million things you can do, dont focus on the one bit of content, this business is a bitch, like most businesses, stay in it long enough and your going to get fucked over, stabbed in the back and ripped off.

dont worry about lightspeed, dont worry about the model, dont worry about the cam place, focus on YOUR goal and get on with it, you sound like life is over, you do not have to follow other people examples of a "single girl site", do it your way and dont even look at other sites untill yours is done the way you want it to be.

Good Advice.... You should take it... :2 cents:

yah , thinking over it... i don't think it will be so bad... because of this situation i have made a lot of new contacts... i think i'll just launch her site and offer lifetime membership or something along those lines... a lot of very nice people have offered me free content.. i'm not going to use it because i dont want something for free... but everyones been really helpfull...

a big thanks to the people that have icqed me... and contentproducer for the free content offer...

i'm pretty much done with this thread.. :)

I ran into a problem like this too back in november and the best thing to do at this point is just promote the site with what you have and add in some filler content. I had about 30 pic sets and 13 videos from this girl then she got this new boyfriend and just flaked on me so i just used it.

you should post a pic of this model, I am curious as to why she is so important to you. She does not seem to be a really big deal to lightspeed because he said he would not use her and for you to go for it, lets see who all this mess was over if you can do it.

www.adultforum.ca/skinnymandy ... the designs not tweaked yet.. but that gives u an idea of what she looks like

No offence sonofsam this time you should do some more research before getting into yourself into further issues . I'm only trying to tell u this cause you are still really fresh noobie and wish u don't waste anymore $$$ into this side of the business .
Learn more about this industry before you make another move . :2 cents:

If Steve has decided not to use the model make a site with that content you have, get back as much money as you can, and then put all of the content for sale on Ounique.com . They'll sell it for you to their huge database of webmasters and give you 50% of all sales forever. 4 years from now you'll still be making money on that content.

Of course, since you need money now your best bet is to sell your content to Lightspeed. Keep trying to negotiate until they say, "Absolutely not. We are not interested." At that point, see my first paragraph.

negotiations are over already, im just gonna go ahead and launch the site.. then when it doesnt sell anymore.. release it all for free lol :)

This might be a cool time to think about using an AVS system. Deluxe Pass would probably make you a decent amount of money and provide you with the content that will keep the rebills flowing. Use their hosting too and you end up with no additional costs since that seems like an important thing in your case.

i already have the CCBill thing covered but thanks for the suggestion :)

Don't forget to sell it on Ounique as well. It will still sell, I guarantee it. I'm talking from experience here. I sent some stuff to Ounique more than 3 years ago and STILL receive monthly royalties on it.

i will put it on ounique for the beginning... but once it doesn't do so good... its being released for free :)

I'm hoping that Sam and Lightspeed can at least reconcile any differences that arised from this situation. It would be a shame to not be able to do further business together down the road. This model fucked both of you guys over and pitted you against each other. Don't let that stupid whore ruin any possible business relationships. kiss n make up :)

damn i feel bad for you..
if you can please hit me up 162027899
good luck! lunch the fucking site! :)

You should do your homework before investing a lot of time in something ... people in this business are really helpfull ...

Spending big money on hotels, makeup artists and other b ullshit isn't gonna bring you far when you start a new site (unless you have a 150-200k to start up with) .

greatest idea ever :)

Been there, done that. My last roommate was a pornstar - a young one. The young sluts are the most unreliable people you will ever meet, and there is always an "ex" in the picture that makes your life a living hell.

The above mentioned girl just decided on a whim that she wants to go get an education - "makeup school". So she drops everything and moves away to do it (sacrificing her 10k-20k/month from porn). Out of all this money she of course has nothing.

I have maybe 10 vids of her and ~1000 pics. I begged and pleaded with her to not go. I specifically told her that she was not going to be able to continue her expensive life style if she left.

She called me up last night because she doesn't want to get a real job and expects a $2k a month 'allowance' until the website starts generating revenue. Her parents won't give her shit, so I should.

hahahahahahahahaahah

my advice to you Sam: hang in there bro :thumbsup

You should really think about talking to Lightspeed again (it seems as though this model was the one to blame and got things heated between you and Steve) and see if he will come to an understanding that since you are young and new to this biz you didn't realize his $3500 was non-negotiable. BUT even if he still does not re-offer $3500 you should be the better man and apologize for calling him a "Dick" and hope that your next dealings will be better (ya never know what could happen in the future).

If you don't want $3500 anymore you should still try to talk to Steve and see that there are no hard feelings for the future.(Steve seems like a reasonable and rational person, so I think this could be beneficial for both of you in the future).

allowance sounds you like are some type of sugar daddy

This is fucked up Ban Lightspeed. (Fucken cock-blockers)

Fuck Lightspeed. It's plain to see, those guys got to her.

Hah...ya right. I am like sonofsam - a college student (or so he seems). This chick is just the dumbest bitch you will ever meet, and expects me to grab money from my backers for her. I have access to a lot, and she knows it.

This is a long thread.. so forgive me if I missed this info..
But you did get this model to give you a copy of her drivers license and sign papers that say she's over 18, right? ;)

sorry to hear your story, let me know how I can help

feel for you Sam, I guess.

Sounded like a pretty good deal what LightSpeed offered you.

Sam's son: At least you have invested in some cams and lights! Find another model. A cuter girl!

LOL that's some good stuff right there!