Your advice and opinions please. - GoFuckYourself.com

CurrentlySober · 03-14-2005, 07:08 AM

Can you please take a look at this site, and based upon the situation explained below, advise as to the best course of action for me to take?

This is what?s happened. I get commissioned to build a site for a guy I know. He is very specific, as to the look and design that he wants, and he goes as far as to actually create the exact layout that he wants using Microsoft word.

In order for me to reproduce it, (as its not actually in .doc format) i.e. .doc = save as .html and clean it up, and viola, there?s your page, etc.... So, in order to create it as he says, I screen grab the pages to PhotoShop, then save and slice and convert across...We discuss the procsess and he agreees to it, and so I go ahead.
So, I do so, for all seven pages, and add in the page transition fades that he requested...

OK, So, perhaps not the most technically amazing process I admit, but considering he actually wants titles etc, that were created in 'word art' (yes, I know...) it was the simplest method, which I could use which would ensure that his designs would be created, as he wants them to be, exactly as they are on his designs...

Next thing, he rings up and says that the pages are all too blurry and that the pics are simply not sharp enough... I check it on mine, and its 'OK'... I will admit they are not "Pin Sharp" but I am of the opinion that they are reasonably sharp enough to hold their own, and that if anything else is a bit blurry or hard to read, well, that?s really down to his own design, and its inherent limitations...

Then I discover, almost to my horror, that he is viewing the pages on AOL.
I am aware that AOL does compress images by default, so I explain this to him, and attempt to suggest he views it using IE or FireFox...
Unfortunately, he doesn?t have much of a grasp of using a PC outside of the hand holding AOL environment, and so as such, he is unable to use anything else, other than the AOL to view it with.

So he then decides, that as its "way to blurry" and in his words "Nearly Everyone Uses AOL..." He wants me to do it again from scratch, using the original pics and rebuilding the pages to look exactly the same as they do now, i.e. per his designs, but 'Not Blurry"...

& so this is my point.

Now I can do that... (I?m capable enough...) but given that it looks fine to me in IE and FF on 4 separate computers, I cant really see if its going to really make that much of a difference...Thats especialy true when you allow for the fact that he is still going to be viewing the finished project using the AOL browser?

I don?t have AOL (Nor do I wish too) so I cant see exactly how bad it really is, but I have many other things that I could be doing with my time today, which would be a lot more constructive, than for me to spend it putting right something thats not really broken in he first place.... Only to be told... Its stil no good...

So, could you please take a look and tell me if in your professional opinions, if the graphics and photos are 'Way too blurry" or if they are what you would consider as acceptable... Also can you guage if I went in and doid it again, if the overall appearence would really be that much of a noticiable improvement or not ???

Please remember, we are talking about the blurriness ( or lack of ) NOT the actual design of the site itself...

THESE ARE THE PAGES

Thanks in advance, I have to make a decision in the next 6 hours....

TGITC

enter » · 03-14-2005, 07:23 AM

A client would have to pay me a million dollars to attach my name with a site that has word created text and page transitions like that.

He's obviously clueless if he wants that stuff and uses AOL. I would just get out while you are ahead.

Sorry, my IQ is above 12 so I don't use AOL and can't comment on the quality but for my 2 cents I would ditch the guy.

mortenb · 03-14-2005, 07:25 AM

They seem ok to me. Not the sharpest images I have seen, but not the worst either.

NickPapageorgio · 03-14-2005, 07:36 AM

The images look better than some I have seen. I have had customers like this. They know what they want and they are set in their mind that they are going to get a certain thing...whether it's technologically possible or not...even when they haven't got a fucking clue as to how it all works.

I would say, finish up as best you can, get your money, and never talk to the guy again...

grumpy · 03-14-2005, 07:38 AM

looks ok to me...with firefox...has a nice amateur touch to it.

CurrentlySober · 03-14-2005, 09:16 AM

Thanks guys...
That?s pretty much what I already thought.
AT least I now feel vindicated in my conclusion?s.
I will indeed as suggested just finish off and then just run way as fast as I can ;)
At least I know now that it IS his browser...
and no me finally loosing the plot once and for all

Thanks
TGITC

TORTOISE · 03-14-2005, 09:22 AM

the quality is good l think..not the best l have ever seen but above average compared to some ...just my humble 2 cents opinion.

ozmatt · 03-14-2005, 09:34 AM

you have done your best under the circumstances! text doesnt look blury for me on IE.. transitions are slow.. word rainbow titles are "interesting" but if its what the client wants then so be it. Just tell him you have had alot of people test it on a variety of different browsers and it looks fine.

best of luck mate

03-14-2005, 07:08 AM	#1
CurrentlySober Too lazy to wipe my ass Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Public Bathroom Posts: 38,644	Your advice and opinions please. Can you please take a look at this site, and based upon the situation explained below, advise as to the best course of action for me to take? This is what?s happened. I get commissioned to build a site for a guy I know. He is very specific, as to the look and design that he wants, and he goes as far as to actually create the exact layout that he wants using Microsoft word. In order for me to reproduce it, (as its not actually in .doc format) i.e. .doc = save as .html and clean it up, and viola, there?s your page, etc.... So, in order to create it as he says, I screen grab the pages to PhotoShop, then save and slice and convert across...We discuss the procsess and he agreees to it, and so I go ahead. So, I do so, for all seven pages, and add in the page transition fades that he requested... OK, So, perhaps not the most technically amazing process I admit, but considering he actually wants titles etc, that were created in 'word art' (yes, I know...) it was the simplest method, which I could use which would ensure that his designs would be created, as he wants them to be, exactly as they are on his designs... Next thing, he rings up and says that the pages are all too blurry and that the pics are simply not sharp enough... I check it on mine, and its 'OK'... I will admit they are not "Pin Sharp" but I am of the opinion that they are reasonably sharp enough to hold their own, and that if anything else is a bit blurry or hard to read, well, that?s really down to his own design, and its inherent limitations... Then I discover, almost to my horror, that he is viewing the pages on AOL. I am aware that AOL does compress images by default, so I explain this to him, and attempt to suggest he views it using IE or FireFox... Unfortunately, he doesn?t have much of a grasp of using a PC outside of the hand holding AOL environment, and so as such, he is unable to use anything else, other than the AOL to view it with. So he then decides, that as its "way to blurry" and in his words "Nearly Everyone Uses AOL..." He wants me to do it again from scratch, using the original pics and rebuilding the pages to look exactly the same as they do now, i.e. per his designs, but 'Not Blurry"... & so this is my point. Now I can do that... (I?m capable enough...) but given that it looks fine to me in IE and FF on 4 separate computers, I cant really see if its going to really make that much of a difference...Thats especialy true when you allow for the fact that he is still going to be viewing the finished project using the AOL browser? I don?t have AOL (Nor do I wish too) so I cant see exactly how bad it really is, but I have many other things that I could be doing with my time today, which would be a lot more constructive, than for me to spend it putting right something thats not really broken in he first place.... Only to be told... Its stil no good... So, could you please take a look and tell me if in your professional opinions, if the graphics and photos are 'Way too blurry" or if they are what you would consider as acceptable... Also can you guage if I went in and doid it again, if the overall appearence would really be that much of a noticiable improvement or not ??? Please remember, we are talking about the blurriness ( or lack of ) NOT the actual design of the site itself... THESE ARE THE PAGES Thanks in advance, I have to make a decision in the next 6 hours.... TGITC __________________ My AI Handywork... My Dream Gal... XXX 👁️ 👍️ 💩

03-14-2005, 07:23 AM	#2
enter » Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: -- arizona --» Posts: 2,362	A client would have to pay me a million dollars to attach my name with a site that has word created text and page transitions like that. He's obviously clueless if he wants that stuff and uses AOL. I would just get out while you are ahead. Sorry, my IQ is above 12 so I don't use AOL and can't comment on the quality but for my 2 cents I would ditch the guy. __________________ «-- offer extended through New Years (icq286487452)

03-14-2005, 07:36 AM	#4
NickPapageorgio Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NC Posts: 8,323	The images look better than some I have seen. I have had customers like this. They know what they want and they are set in their mind that they are going to get a certain thing...whether it's technologically possible or not...even when they haven't got a fucking clue as to how it all works. I would say, finish up as best you can, get your money, and never talk to the guy again... __________________

03-14-2005, 07:38 AM	#5
grumpy Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 9,870	looks ok to me...with firefox...has a nice amateur touch to it. __________________ Don't let greediness blur your vision \| You gotta let some shit slide icq - 441-456-888

03-14-2005, 09:16 AM	#6
CurrentlySober Too lazy to wipe my ass Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Public Bathroom Posts: 38,644	Thanks guys... That?s pretty much what I already thought. AT least I now feel vindicated in my conclusion?s. I will indeed as suggested just finish off and then just run way as fast as I can ;) At least I know now that it IS his browser... and no me finally loosing the plot once and for all Thanks TGITC __________________ My AI Handywork... My Dream Gal... XXX 👁️ 👍️ 💩

03-14-2005, 07:25 AM	#3
mortenb Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Denmark ICQ: 7880009 Posts: 2,203	They seem ok to me. Not the sharpest images I have seen, but not the worst either.

03-14-2005, 09:22 AM	#7
TORTOISE Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LONDON/MONTREAL Posts: 734	the quality is good l think..not the best l have ever seen but above average compared to some ...just my humble 2 cents opinion.

03-14-2005, 09:34 AM	#8
ozmatt Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: brisvegas, australia Posts: 1,843	you have done your best under the circumstances! text doesnt look blury for me on IE.. transitions are slow.. word rainbow titles are "interesting" but if its what the client wants then so be it. Just tell him you have had alot of people test it on a variety of different browsers and it looks fine. best of luck mate __________________ NEW NEW Pimpin Pays Version 2 NEW NEW *** * * AIM - pwize69 - ICQ - 4664 7757 - EMAIL** - matt at pimpinpays dot com * PIMPIN DESIGN - $699 PAYSITES * HIT ME UP NOW - PIMPINPAYS.COM