Indeed.. I think 12clicks was drunk that night...(i hope) I wont be posting the thread.. Out of Respect.. :1orglaugh

Backpedal? Where did I backpedal? I've said the same thing all along, backed it up, and explained it to you over and over again.

That, "but no, they're not fake" line was sarcastic, mimicking you. It's pretty sad that you have to chop up a paragraph to try to make a point, but I suspect that's your way of attempting to leave a thread with some bit of dignity. Don't worry Ron, I'll let you go. I've taught you enough lessons for today.

BTW here's the entire post, in which anyone with a brain can see where I'm insulting you. Of course news stories made by the government are fake, only you could somehow say they aren't.


To sum up Ron's points in this thread; the government making news stories and then pawning them off as created by the networks is not fake. Armstrong Williams did not work for CNN. Hundreds of thousands of people DO NOT go bankrupt every year in the USA due to medical bills. And lastly, the law of averages does not exist.

You should seriously consider becoming a college professor or something.

I missed that one, hook me up with a link if you have it please.

Pretty please?

to sum up rich's points in this thread

Thru out the thread...Richy boy.

"news stories"/reports prepared by the government are not necessarily "fake"/untrue and "news stories"/reports prepared by the government are in fact news.

They are not pawned off to the networks as being created by the networks...the networks are made aware by the government who they were prepared by.

It is apparent that some media outlets do allow the public to believe that the "news story"/report was prepared by them and not the government. But I have seen some media state up front that the "news story"/report was prepared by the government

No Armstrong Williams is not an employee of CNN. Armstrong Williams is a talk radio jock and was apparently paid to push a government program on his radio show. This is not to say that he did not appear on other shows and push the program.

Illness triggers thousands of bankruptcies and of course medical bills become a part of that bankruptcy.

No need to thank me for educating you...Richy boy.

BTW...Richy boy...feel free to go off into your dark bedroom and let the voices in your head...fill you with more bullshit...and come back a post some more lies.

So that's it? 12dicks ran off like a little girl after being exposed as the lying jackass he is? He rested on an out of context edit of my posts? Wow, this is one of the worst displays I've ever seen by that idiot, and that's saying A LOT.

Of course, I didn't catch the time where he said he was smarter than Einstein.

He made you to be the fool that you are...but then again that is not a big accomplishment...as it is easy to do. Heading for the darkened bedroom soon...Richy boy?

BTW...I am leaving too...as me and the dogs are going to the beach...thanks for entertaining me today...Richy boy.

:1orglaugh Do you ever win any arguements, 12clicks??

Fuck, you looked real bad in this one. :1orglaugh

...and having theking :1orglaugh trying to save your ass :1orglaugh (fucking classic) :thumbsup

...then trying to take Rich's words out of context :1orglaugh ... only an IDIOT wouldn't be able see that (and only an ABSOLUTE IDIOT would try that on an uneditable message board :1orglaugh )

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

U.S. Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas

"Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us."

I don't think it is too much of a stretch to envision a time when the gov't takes the practices they are doing in the article and slowly builds them up to a point that they are the dominant producers of the very news and information Americans are getting. This means real restriction of free thought if your news is gov't propoganda to make you follow their policies benignly. How clearer can this most dangerous of threats to democracy be.

ahahahaha, I love these west coast losers "winning the argument" because I go home. :1orglaugh

Thomas Jefferson, 1786

Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.

try google'ng operation mockingbird.

I am truly sickened. This is grounds for a revolution.

If you cannot even rely on the information you are getting to form your political beliefs and opinions, than the whole legitimacy of your democracy is at risk. How can people just take this kind of manipulation of your thoughts and opinions. Ugh.

We're all the gov'ts meat puppets and some in this thread sing their praises. :Oh crap

It is apparent from the article that "freedom of the press" is alive and well...as the press has the freedom to present government prepared material or not to present government prepared material. Some media apparently present goverment prepared material as having spawned it themselves...some media do present government prepared material as just that...prepared by the government (it still qualifies as news)...and I would assume that some media would find it beneath themselves to present government prepared material.

Calling Hershie "kid" is funny enough by itself not to care what is in the rest of this thread.

You know better than this. C'mon. This was not a gov't issued press release that got picked up by a news organization. They fabricated propaganda to seem like an independant news story done by a reporter so it would get aired by sloppy or friendly news stations. They were trying to fool you to make you believe it was real news. How much clearer can this be for what it is.

Apparently it is standard issue for him to act dismissive of people in this way.

BTW...I do not think that government prepared material is any less credible than material gathered by individual media. I take every report with a grain of salt as they are equally incredible...in my opinion. Virtually everyone has an axe to grind and present biased reports...and usually the media's axe is not political but is the color green. The media usually selects stories that they think will attract the most viewers and present those stories in a manner that they think will hold the viewers attention via the biased use of adjectives. I have yet to find an unbiased english language (I only speak or underst and english) news outlet...from any source...origin US or otherwise.

It never fails. When 12-legend-in-his-own-lunchtime-clicks and the-I-am-not-a-republican-king are on one side of an argument, the other side is going to look better with every post.

Ah, he tries to sneak back for the last word because he think I'm gone.

No, it's not because you went home, it's because you've proved how big of a fool you are in this thread (not the first time). This wasn't much of an argument, it was basically you making an ass of yourself and me pointing out the reasons.

I was just surprised at how weak your exit was. Chopping up my sentence to make it seem like I contradicted myself, pathetic. Too bad most people here can read for themselves, unlike you.

If you can point out one thing you've said in this thread that's accurate or truthful in any way, by all means do. At this point you basically look like a raving lunatic, talking about medical bills not forcing anyone into bankruptcy, government prepared news not being fake, not understanding the law of averages, etc etc etc. You should realize how stupid you look when the only person standing up for you, is a crazy old friendless moron who faked his own death on a message board when people started to realize how crazy he was.

You're lame as always, Einstein.

No, no he doesn't.

Look, nobody is saying what the gov't is saying isn't truth or less credible. I completely agree with your assesment of the media above. But that is all beside the point. The gov't cannot get into the media business at all in the manner described in the article or else freedom of speach and a functioning democracy are at serious risk.

Take what is in that article about what the gov't is involved in to an even more involved level in the media and you have the makings of the end of your democracy IMO.

The practice of the government preparing retports and or film and or video for news media release has been around since there has been a printing press...film and video. This is not nothing new. They have been shown in movie theaters prior to TV. Just review some of the old news reels shown in theaters...which was common practice prior to TV.

The press has always had the option of presenting goverment prepared reports or not to. Government prepared materials...by the Education Dept...Agriculture Dept...Transportation Dept...etc. has always been done and is in fact real news...just as real as any story prepared by individual media.

They are different than daily press releases made by the Administration/Departments...and in the case of the daily press releases of the Administration/Departments...some media run them some don't. That is called freedom of the press.

You made the accusation...prove it. If you can't then you are a proven liar...but of course it has already been proven multiple times that you are in fact a liar...Richy boy.

150 !! :pimp

Fact is fact...and it is fact that I am not a member of the Republican party and I have never been a member of the Republican party. I think the only conservative position that I have is on a strong military...defense spending...military R&D etc.

You are lied too every day. Whether it is the white house or the NY times, CNN or fox news. The media could not find the truth if it was sucking on their cocks. Rich
I am so surprised that you don't see this. All we are saying is so what. It has been
this way since for ever.

I do see that, but still, that's doesn't excuse blatant government propaganda being passed off as having been created by a news network. That's Nazi/Soviet style, and it's a little scary to me that the majority of people in US don't even blink an eye when they learn this. Everyone's so used to being lied to that they don't care anymore.

Complacency builds tyranny.

Maybe GFY should send a representative...

http://freepress.net/conference/

The world is so fucked up and this is what is on your hit list? That Government's lie
tell me one that does not.

I always felt that any person that holds any government office and made any news speech that was not based on fact should be hung for treason but that is just me.

Middle earth can still be saved. There is still hope for man.

Stop the apathy and machievelian outlook.

Nothing like someone that defines success as putting spyware on peoples computers without their knowledge. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Haha, yeah.. that shows a little where he stands regarding dictatorship vs. democracy etc. ... :winkwink:
Tough luck for the rest of the world that guys like that get lucky with fortune/fame/power.

I puke everytime I notice a resource-CONSUMING loudmouth... and it's hard not to notice them. :Oh crap
Seeing them online on boards is f*cking priceless all the time :1orglaugh