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Dirty F · 03-13-2005, 06:10 PM

This world now has 40 new clueless idiot mailers.

Just what we need

Sly · 03-13-2005, 06:17 PM

How do I start mailing? ;-)

Reminds me of the blog craze. Everyone is blogging now, they'll get bored after a month or two and go back to their regular routine. Hey I just started a blog!

Rorschach · 03-13-2005, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Reminds me of the blog craze. Everyone is blogging now, they'll get bored after a month or two and go back to their regular routine. Hey I just started a blog!

That's fine, just as long as they leave the comments open.

TDF · 03-13-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rorschach

That's fine, just as long as they leave the comments open.

so damn true

The Other Steve · 03-13-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

How do I start mailing? ;-)

Reminds me of the blog craze. Everyone is blogging now, they'll get bored after a month or two and go back to their regular routine. Hey I just started a blog!

Exactly - they're like a bunch of fleas jumping from one thing to the next in the desperate hope of making money.

I love it 'cause none of them have the staying power to stick at something till they do start making money.

Maybe a few of us should come up with a few more ge-rich-quick schemes to wear them out and then they'll be gone for good.

dij · 03-13-2005, 06:48 PM

If you can focus on your watch and think of absolutely nothing else for 2 whole minutes, you can accomplish anything. - Brian Tracy

Try it, it's very hard

SomeCreep · 03-13-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Other Steve

Exactly - they're like a bunch of fleas jumping from one thing to the next in the desperate hope of making money.

That is the whole world, perhaps the entire universe.

pornguy · 03-13-2005, 06:51 PM

Dont worry. You will see a new list of people that are getting nailed for spamming.

Persius · 03-13-2005, 06:51 PM

bdjuf is jk there is no money in mailing...

Kevsh · 03-13-2005, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dij

If you can focus on your watch and think of absolutely nothing else for 2 whole minutes, you can accomplish anything. - Brian Tracy

Try it, it's very hard

Good quote ... I tried it, couldn't get passed a minute thirty ...

tungsten · 03-13-2005, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

Good quote ... I tried it, couldn't get passed a minute thirty ...

same here

SomeCreep · 03-13-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

This world now has 40 new clueless idiot mailers.

http://www.dark-mailer.com

Now they have a clue as to where to get some leet spamware.

TDF · 03-13-2005, 06:58 PM

watch them all run here when they get crappy mailing lists

B40 · 03-13-2005, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

How do I start mailing? ;-)

Reminds me of the blog craze. Everyone is blogging now, they'll get bored after a month or two and go back to their regular routine. Hey I just started a blog!

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie...cept&spell= 1

B40 · 03-13-2005, 07:58 PM

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/51/goodtogreat.html

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Disciplined Thought: Fox or Hedgehog?
Picture two animals: a fox and a hedgehog. Which are you? An ancient Greek parable distinguishes between foxes, which know many small things, and hedgehogs, which know one big thing. All good-to-great leaders, it turns out, are hedgehogs. They know how to simplify a complex world into a single, organizing idea -- the kind of basic principle that unifies, organizes, and guides all decisions. That's not to say hedgehogs are simplistic. Like great thinkers, who take complexities and boil them down into simple, yet profound, ideas (Adam Smith and the invisible hand, Darwin and evolution), leaders of good-to-great companies develop a Hedgehog Concept that is simple but that reflects penetrating insight and deep understanding.

What does it take to come up with a Hedgehog Concept for your company? Start by confronting the brutal facts. One good-to-great CEO began by asking, "Why have we sucked for 100 years?" That's brutal -- and it's precisely the type of disciplined question necessary to ignite a transformation. The management climate during a leap from good to great is like a searing scientific debate -- with smart, tough-minded people examining hard facts and debating what those facts mean. The point isn't to win the debate, but rather to come up with the best answers -- and, ultimately, to lock onto a Hedgehog Concept that works.

You'll know that you're getting closer to your Hedgehog Concept when you align three intersecting circles that represent three pivotal questions: What can we be the best in the world at? (And equally important -- what can we not be the best at?) What is the economic denominator that best drives our economic engine (profit or cash flow per "x")? And what are our core people deeply passionate about? Answer those three questions honestly, facing the brutal facts without blinking, and you'll begin to see your Hedgehog Concept emerge.

For example, before Wells Fargo understood its Hedgehog Concept, its leaders had tried to make it a global bank: It operated like a mini-Citicorp -- and a mediocre one at that.

Then the Wells Fargo team asked itself, "What can we potentially do better than any other company?" The brutal fact was that Wells Fargo would never be the best global bank in the world -- and so the leadership team pulled the plug on the vast majority of the bank's international operations. When the team asked that question about the bank's economic engine, Wells Fargo's leaders confronted a second brutal fact: In a deregulated world, commercial banking would be a commodity. The essential economic driver would no longer be profit per loan, but profit per employee. The bank switched its operations to become a pioneering leader in electronic banking and to open utilitarian branches run by small crews of superb people. Profit per employee skyrocketed. Finally, when it came to passion, members of the Wells Fargo team all agreed: The mindless waste and self-awarded perks of traditional banking culture were revolting. They proudly saw themselves as stoic Spartans in an industry that had been dominated by the wasteful, elitist culture of banking. The Wells Fargo team eventually translated the three circles into a simple, crystalline Hedgehog Concept: Run a bank like a business, with a focus on the western United States, and consistently increase profit per employee. "Run it like a business" and "run it like you own it" became mantras; simplicity and focus made all the difference. With fanatical adherence to that simple idea, Wells Fargo made the leap from good results to superior results.

In the journey from good to great, defining your Hedgehog Concept is an essential element. But insight and understanding don't happen overnight -- or after one off-site. On average, it took four years for the good-to-great companies to crystallize their Hedgehog Concepts. It was an inherently iterative process -- consisting of piercing questions, vigorous debate, resolute action, and autopsies without blame -- a cycle repeated over and over by the right people, infused with the brutal facts, and guided by the three circles. This is the chicken inside the egg.

03-13-2005, 08:01 PM

I would seriously not encourage ANYBODY to mail...

the amount of suing stories I have heard going on lately, subpoenas and what not...

Unless you REALLY know what you're doing, it is not a risk you are willing to take, or so I would believe

hydro · 03-13-2005, 08:25 PM

he's right, mailing isnt worth it anymore. 5 years ago you could easily pull in $100,000 a month mailing pharmacy sites. If you don't belive that than look up a company called "myrxbiz" and you'll see that some anti hacked thier sites and published everything including mailer stats. But these days, you'll make more working comission at the sears electronic section...

eddie-executive · 03-13-2005, 08:59 PM

who says mailing dont work this cd changed my life

cd link

xlogger · 03-13-2005, 09:00 PM

I was seriously thinking why i was getting like 20 icqs today. r o f l

03-13-2005, 06:10 PM	#1
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03-13-2005, 06:48 PM	#6
dij Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,163	If you can focus on your watch and think of absolutely nothing else for 2 whole minutes, you can accomplish anything. - Brian Tracy Try it, it's very hard

03-13-2005, 06:51 PM	#9
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03-13-2005, 08:01 PM	#16
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	I would seriously not encourage ANYBODY to mail... the amount of suing stories I have heard going on lately, subpoenas and what not... Unless you REALLY know what you're doing, it is not a risk you are willing to take, or so I would believe

03-13-2005, 08:25 PM	#17
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	he's right, mailing isnt worth it anymore. 5 years ago you could easily pull in $100,000 a month mailing pharmacy sites. If you don't belive that than look up a company called "myrxbiz" and you'll see that some anti hacked thier sites and published everything including mailer stats. But these days, you'll make more working comission at the sears electronic section...

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