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That, to me, is a problem with gun control, laws or not. |
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America shouldve never allowed guns in the first place. And indeed gun control means shit now anymore when everybody and his brother already has a gun. USA is fucked and the gun inflicted death rate is outrageous. Be it suicide, accidents or murder. If the US had gun control from day 1 all the 3 would be less. You claim you need a gun to protect you and your family from other people with guns. Think about it for a minute what a retarded position you guys are in. |
The next person who claims car kill as well will get his keyboard rammed up his ass.
Guns were made for killing, cars werent. Cars are needed, guns arent. (except sadly enough for war). |
I'd prefer if people weren't allowed to drive their cars anymore. Too many traffic fatalities.
I'd also like to bet $10,000 that Franck would not be capable of shoving a keyboard or anything else up my ass. Empty threats are so much fun! |
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where do you live? |
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No need to prove again that youre a simple minded idiot. |
Gun Deaths - International Comparisons
Gun deaths per 100,000 population (for the year indicated): Homicide Suicide Unintentional USA 4.08 (1999) 6.08 (1999) 0.42 (1999) Canada 0.54 (1999) 2.65 (1997) 0.15 (1997) Switzerland 0.50 (1999) 5.78 (1998) - Scotland 0.12 (1999) 0.27 (1999) - England/Wales 0.12 (1999/00) 0.22 (1999) 0.01 (1999) Japan 0.04* (1998) 0.04 (1995) <0.01 (1997) |
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Every hour in America, four people are killed by firearms. (Centers for Disease Control)
A gun in your home makes it three times more likely that you or someone you care about will be murdered by a family member or intimate partner (Kellerman,New England Journal of Medicine v329, n.15 1993) Gun violence is the second-leading cause of injury-related fatalities in the US after car accidents. In Alaska, Maryland and Nevada as well as D.C., firearm death rates in 1998 exceeded those for car accidents. (CDC & Natnl. Vital Statistics Report, 1999) One million Americans have died in firearm homicides, suicides, and unintentional shootings since 1962. (Fatal Firearm Injuries in the United States 1962-1994. Violence Surveillance Summary Series, No. 3, 1997; Deaths: Final Data for 1995- 1997, National Vital Statistics Report) |
The Self-Defense Myth:
In 1997, for every time that a civilian used a handgun to kill in self-defense, 43 people lost their lives in handgun homicides. (FBI Supplementary Homicide Report data, 1997) |
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Why is it that a lot of the people who are so passionate about our gun control laws aren't even American? It's really none of your business. Shut the fuck up about it.
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Yea people, shut the fuck up. Facts just confuse the average gun nut. BTW, I'm American and I'll speak as loud as I want when I see rednecks fucking this country up. |
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We have an incredibly small number of handgun deaths a year (never over 50) and many of these can be attributed to the activities of the underworld and organised crime. In the same timespan shotgun deaths are down from 107 to 54, hunting rifle deaths from 231 to 76. The point is that total firearm deaths have virtually halved since introducing gun control. I think this can be regarded as a success. |
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As a result, out of touch politicians enact legislature that punishe those who do possess firearms (primarily farmers in Rural areas) and does nothing to stop the flow of firearms from the US. I realize the 4 mounties that were killed last month actually would have fallen under the registry act had it still been in place. Would it have made a difference? Possibly? Regardless, the registy was scrapped at the tune of just over $2 Billion due to the fact it is difficult to maintain a database of firearms that will never be used on other human beings. Canada is (for the most part) not interested in joining the 'missle defence' program and as a result the lowlife ambassador and arrogant puppet called the 'president' have decided to ban beef and lumber in an attempt to UNDERMINE Canadian sovereignty. Leading supplier of Conventional Weapons 1997 - 2001 1. United States 44,821 $USM 44.5% of total globally 2. Russia 17,354 $USM 17.2% 3. France 9,808 9.7 (http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/appx8a2002.pdf) Leading supplier of arms to developing nations US 74,928 $USM UK 37,000 (http://www.fas.org/asmp/resources/go...rs-rl31529.pdf) this isn't intended to hate on anyone or an entire land mass or nation. these sites were originally cited in the essay Arms Trade by Mark Phythian therefore, it is my business. :2 cents: ~r. |
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...pot-usat_x.htm http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/meddling.html http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/...rliament.shtml |
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I remember this distinctly as the irony caused me to throw up a little in my mouth Also, marijuana kills far less people per year that firearms. I have no numbers to back this up, but I'm fairly confident this is true. |
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Nothing wrong with that. A good friend of mine is the same way, has probably 20 different weapons, goes target shooting a few times a month and its also a hobby for him. But I don't think he is your typical gun owner, he'll be the first to admit guns are way out of control in this country. The majority of gun owners I know or have known are fanatical, low IQ, mentally unstable rednecks with this 'nobody better fuck with me' attitude. These are the type of people who should not have guns as far as I'm concerned. If a persons world is so full of fear that their only security is a 44 Magnum under their pillow or in their glove box they would be spending their time much more wisely in a shrinks office rather than a target range. |
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There is not one documented death of anyone from marijuana. |
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Are you on the POT?
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we kinda run into semantics here, like drinking and driving, posting while drunk, driving stoned, etc....and the whole weed as a stepping stone to harder drugs. I thinks guns with anything don't mix, especially when the IMPAIR your judgement. I've never really been in a position where I actually needed a gun (including a mugging a few years ago) so I can't really speak about the value of guns in the military/police/RCMP where they would be required to ensure survival. :2 cents: |
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also uzis are just 9mm pistols, i could fuck someone up way worse with my 12 gauge |
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Yeah I agree, it's still interesting though. We trust that a gun owner will secure and store it safely. When it doesn't work, we advocate banning guns. However, we don't advocate banning cars after somebody gets drunk and runs over somebody. Just food for thought. |
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P.S. Your guns are being snuck into our country (Canada) so I think it does affect us up here, but that's beside the point. |
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But by locking up a gun, wouldn't one essentially be defeating a primary purose of owning one? or are they decorative hobbies built for the purpose of taking lives? we don't take away the cars, but we do take away the drivers! Also, cars serve many purposes man, guns serve one. (or a few if you're Homer Simpson) |
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I myself am not a gun owner. I have no need for them personally, although I've been to the firing range a few times. Yes you're right cars server another purpose. What about Alochol as I asked above? What useful purpose does it serve? I myself tend not to drink. I don't like drunk people around me, I find them annoying. People get drunk and crash cars, beat their wives and ruin families every single day. You're allowed to purchase booze because society trusts in you to do the right thing with it. Many people do not. |
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Kind of like the kid who gets caught cheating on a test in school and pleads with the teacher that he shouldn't be punished because Sally was chewing gum in class (also a no-no) and didn't get punished, nor did little Darren who didn't do his homework. The teacher is going to say something like "Fine, but we're not talking about them, we're talking about you!" (sorry, it's late and I'm tired... best I could come up with..) :winkwink: |
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By your logic shouldn't heroin be legal? |
guns don't kill ppl, ppl do
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Don't get me wrong, I'm all for gun control. It should be difficult to buy a gun. Their should be a registry of all gun owners and which guns they own. You should have a "cool down" period, and you don't need AK47's in your house. I'm with you on common sense controls. I'm just not with anybody on absolute elimination.
We have pretty strict gun controls here in Canada, as do we on say drinking and driving. I'm just saying that from a safety stand point, my life would be better served with the absolute elimination of alcohol rather than guns. |
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in terms of booze, I kinda see it the same as weed, and one or two other drugs - there is a time and a place. At work - driving - handling a firearm - overindulgence in anything will usually mess things up. and booze is a drug. so how do people go about behaving responsibly and not labeling themselves with a disorder to justify their actions? (Addictive personality) People have the strength to dictate their own actions, if they choose to drink irresponsibly? I don't know....and booze does fuck things up, as does weed, crack, and heroine...time and a place. People have to decide. One of those 'downsides of freeddom' Carl Rove is always citing..... I don't think I'm different from anyone else and I've had my fair share of...'indulgences' and I still choose to not indulge based on the situation. :2 cents: |
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Guns don't kill people.....Rappers do |
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(I basically quit - and it's great - I can taste food!) - but - they've demonized smoking in the public with such voracity it is being percieved like tattoos 20 years ago. I like my vices.....they're mine. |
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