63Mbps-388Mbps out, how does streaming radio make money? - GoFuckYourself.com

rowan · 03-13-2005, 11:12 AM

One of the stations I'm listening to says there are currently 3037 listeners connected. Speeds of the stream range between 21kbit/sec to 128kbit/sec, which means they're currently pushing somewhere between 63Mbit/sec and 388Mbit/sec out.

There's no ads that I can see on the site or hear on the stream.

Any guesses?

03-13-2005, 11:21 AM

comercials between streams?

03-13-2005, 11:22 AM

i mean mixes

Pornwolf · 03-13-2005, 11:22 AM

I have wondered this myself.

Triple 6 · 03-13-2005, 11:22 AM

they rob banks

dij · 03-13-2005, 11:30 AM

some ask for donations, but if they don't then I have no idea

FrankWhite · 03-13-2005, 11:30 AM

they are prolly getting free hosting,

rowan · 03-13-2005, 11:49 AM

I guess above.net hosts them to increase their peering muscle. Presumably they have arrangements with other huge ISPs whereby whoever sends the most content (bytes) gets paid for the difference... so the more they send, the more they make (or the less they have to pay)

It's been a few years since I looked into that system so it may have changed now.

Gasper: there are no ads at all. I've listened to it heaps the past few days and I've heard about 4 voiceovers in that time. Each one was a station and/or DJ identification.

Pornwolf · 03-13-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan

I guess above.net hosts them to increase their peering muscle. Presumably they have arrangements with other huge ISPs whereby whoever sends the most content (bytes) gets paid for the difference... so the more they send, the more they make (or the less they have to pay)

It's been a few years since I looked into that system so it may have changed now.

Gasper: there are no ads at all. I've listened to it heaps the past few days and I've heard about 4 voiceovers in that time. Each one was a station and/or DJ identification.

Makes no sense. The push traffic is still lopsided with the pull traffic. I would make sense only if it were an AOL type ISP with tons of pull traffic but this is not the case I don't think.

Hell, I don't get it at all.

rowan · 03-13-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Makes no sense. The push traffic is still lopsided with the pull traffic. I would make sense only if it were an AOL type ISP with tons of pull traffic but this is not the case I don't think.

Hell, I don't get it at all.

If ISP A and ISP B have a peering agreement then they agree to place a value on their bytes, and whoever receives the most the difference to the other.

ISP A sends 100Tb over a month, ISP B sends back 90Tb in the same month
Therefore ISP B owes ISP A for the value of 10Tb worth of extra data received.

It works because the ISPs can sell that data to their downstream customers (or push it out other peering links). Hosting is win-win because they charge the customer for the pipe AND get a direct peering offset benefit from it.

At least that's how I understood it, again things may have changed since 2001.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-13-2005, 12:08 PM

SO in otherwords its a Service by the ISP carrier

FrankWhite · 03-13-2005, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

SO in otherwords its a Service by the ISP carrier

yes most likely.

03-13-2005, 11:12 AM	#1
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	63Mbps-388Mbps out, how does streaming radio make money? One of the stations I'm listening to says there are currently 3037 listeners connected. Speeds of the stream range between 21kbit/sec to 128kbit/sec, which means they're currently pushing somewhere between 63Mbit/sec and 388Mbit/sec out. There's no ads that I can see on the site or hear on the stream. Any guesses?

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03-13-2005, 11:21 AM	#2
Gasper Guest Posts: n/a	comercials between streams?

03-13-2005, 11:30 AM	#6
dij Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,163	some ask for donations, but if they don't then I have no idea

03-13-2005, 11:30 AM	#7
FrankWhite Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: nyc Posts: 3,540	they are prolly getting free hosting,

03-13-2005, 11:49 AM	#8
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I guess above.net hosts them to increase their peering muscle. Presumably they have arrangements with other huge ISPs whereby whoever sends the most content (bytes) gets paid for the difference... so the more they send, the more they make (or the less they have to pay) It's been a few years since I looked into that system so it may have changed now. Gasper: there are no ads at all. I've listened to it heaps the past few days and I've heard about 4 voiceovers in that time. Each one was a station and/or DJ identification.