Canon EOS Rebel. Who has one? - GoFuckYourself.com

Cory W · 03-12-2005, 12:32 PM

I just got it. I have broke down and am currently doing something I never do: reading the manual.

Anyone got any tips or tricks for this bad boy?

I heard using the flash all the time makes the pics better...

khs · 03-12-2005, 02:45 PM

I have one, dont use it much though. Yes using the flash always makes the pictures look better. Other than that the automatic system is one of the best on the market.

good luck with it!

sonofsam · 03-12-2005, 02:48 PM

i have one and loving it

Spike D · 03-12-2005, 03:03 PM

Not sure if you have one yet, but an external speedlight is a must have. Cannon has a 550EX and 420EX which will slide right on and work great right out of the box....

seven · 03-12-2005, 03:16 PM

I like its built-in little flash better than the external since the external seems to over expose my pics in auto mode, however, can be fixed in manual but manual to me is now pain in the ass since otherwise rebel does almost as good w/auto.

NaughtyRob · 03-12-2005, 03:28 PM

Ask Joe at ama, its what he uses. When I used it I liked it, don't have tips and tricks for it though.

mockingbich · 03-12-2005, 04:18 PM

Did you get the new xt version aka canon rebel 350?

They just started selling them at B&H photo. It's got 8 megapixels and is supposedly better than the 20D.

Personally, the 10D and 20D are the worst focusing cameras I've ever used. They both consistently backfocus. It's very noticeable when you're closeup and using a shallow depth of field. The 10d had some white balance problems too. The rebel seems like a much better buy

mockingbich · 03-12-2005, 04:27 PM

If you're having flash exposure problems definately start using a speedlite on manual control. Cameras never expose perfectly on automatic with flash... It takes awhile to get to know a particular camera's quirks....you have to make decisions instead of the camera to be 100%

I use a Q-flash turbo battery and link it to a canon speedlite. Then set the speedlite in manual mode at 1/2 power. Adjust your exposure using the lcd and aperture control on the back of the camera. Then fill the shadows with an external flash unit using a white light slave

I can take about 400 shots before wearing the battery out. Don't use the speedlite at full power or it'll overheat quick.

This lighting setup is perfect for models with bad skin...it washes those zits right off their face...no need to waste time in photoshop either....Also has the advantage of seeing straight through sheer clothing

nastyking · 03-12-2005, 04:34 PM

i love mine

tony286 · 03-12-2005, 05:11 PM

canon makes sucky manuals get the magic lantern one easy to read

Rictor · 03-12-2005, 05:26 PM

My wife has one and uses it all the time.

AaronM · 03-12-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mockingbich

Did you get the new xt version aka canon rebel 350?

They just started selling them at B&H photo. It's got 8 megapixels and is supposedly better than the 20D.

Personally, the 10D and 20D are the worst focusing cameras I've ever used. They both consistently backfocus. It's very noticeable when you're closeup and using a shallow depth of field. The 10d had some white balance problems too. The rebel seems like a much better buy

The 10D and 20D are better for pros who know how to use and set their features. The focusing system on the 20D is the best I have EVER seen and I say that as one who has been trained as a Nikon Advanced System Specialist and always preferred Nikon over Canon.

I shoot a lot of close up shots with a shallow depth of field and have no problems with it once I learned how to properly use the Canon system.

Shot with a 20D, Canon 24-70 f2.8 glass, and Canon 580EX flash.

abyss_al · 03-12-2005, 05:32 PM

the flash sux...

http://www.dpreview.com best place to learn about the camera

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d

Peaches · 03-12-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

I just got it. I have broke down and am currently doing something I never do: reading the manual.

Why not outsource the manual reading to DeepakCory? There are pink shirts to be bought!!

quantum-x · 03-12-2005, 05:55 PM

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I have one, dont use it much though. Yes using the flash always makes the pictures look better. Other than that the automatic system is one of the best on the market.

Such a strange thing to say. If you're shooting during the day, the flash can be used to fill dark shadows, or add a catchlight to a model's eyes. However, the onboard flash generally sucks at doing both of these things, because-
1) It's nowhere near as powerful as it needs to be
2) It has a terrible coverage, angle wise, meaning that you'll get a hotspot in the photo, and a shadow all around
3) It's onboard, meaning your fingers, and more ususally lens / lens hoods will block it. It's also in a perfect position for returning redeye, and 'holiday snap' looks.

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Not sure if you have one yet, but an external speedlight is a must have. Cannon has a 550EX and 420EX which will slide right on and work great right out of the box....

Actually, they have the 580EX, which is lighter, much mor intuitive, cheaper, and has a faster recycle period.

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I like its built-in little flash better than the external since the external seems to over expose my pics in auto mode, however, can be fixed in manual but manual to me is now pain in the ass since otherwise rebel does almost as good w/auto.

I don't know where to start with this one.
The speedlites are generally acknowledged as the best flashes in the industry. That aside, and I say this in the nicest possible way, if you don't know how to use them, they'll give you shit results.
Read that manual, read that manual lots. Read the table in the back with the exposure information (Ie, to the person who was talking about shooting in full power - I'd be interested to know why you needed to shoot in full power) - you'd be very very surprised at how far 1/128th setting goes.

Finally, and I could probably confidently say this is where you're going wrong - the camera reads its exposure from the focal point. If you focus on something beside or behind your subject, the flash is going to try to light that area, and so will fire more powerfully, overexposing your subject.

Bear in mind too, that the EOS digital rebel only has 7 AF points, meaning they cover a lot of area, so again, you might have them pointed at someone, but the AF area covers the area behind them too.

- Hence the reason that the 1V, 1ds etc have over 45 AF points.

End of lecture. Submit questions in written form.

rowan · 03-12-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

I just got it. I have broke down and am currently doing something I never do: reading the manual.

Anyone got any tips or tricks for this bad boy?

I heard using the flash all the time makes the pics better...

Reading the manual is pretty mandatory for a feature packed piece of equipment like a digital SLR.

Here's some quick and easy tips:

http://www.drebtips.com/digital-rebe...stead-of-auto/

in summary,

- get a UV filter to protect your glass
- use "P" mode instead of that awful fully automatic mode... "flash - stay the fuck DOWN!"
- set review time to "Hold" so you can see the pic indefinitely after the shot is taken
- use the lowest ISO speed possible
- get a USB2 card reader for faster image downloads

nojob · 03-12-2005, 08:10 PM

those are good cameras. I had a an eos rebel in 95

rowan · 03-12-2005, 08:12 PM

BTW I've found the internal flash consistently overexposes unless the closest object is tiny, or more than a couple of metres away. I usually wrap a tissue around the flash (to diffuse the light for a more pleasing effect) then switch to manual mode, varying the aperture to get the exposure correct. There's probably a better/right way to do it, but that works for me. I'll buy an external flash one of thse days.

rowan · 03-12-2005, 08:14 PM

Hey, are you talking about the REBEL or DIGITAL REBEL. There's a big diff between the two.

AaronM · 03-12-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan

Hey, are you talking about the REBEL or DIGITAL REBEL. There's a big diff between the two.

They are talking about the digital rebel.

The EOS Rebel is a piece fo shit.

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03-12-2005, 04:18 PM	#7
mockingbich Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 274	Did you get the new xt version aka canon rebel 350? They just started selling them at B&H photo. It's got 8 megapixels and is supposedly better than the 20D. Personally, the 10D and 20D are the worst focusing cameras I've ever used. They both consistently backfocus. It's very noticeable when you're closeup and using a shallow depth of field. The 10d had some white balance problems too. The rebel seems like a much better buy

03-12-2005, 04:27 PM	#8
mockingbich Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 274	If you're having flash exposure problems definately start using a speedlite on manual control. Cameras never expose perfectly on automatic with flash... It takes awhile to get to know a particular camera's quirks....you have to make decisions instead of the camera to be 100% I use a Q-flash turbo battery and link it to a canon speedlite. Then set the speedlite in manual mode at 1/2 power. Adjust your exposure using the lcd and aperture control on the back of the camera. Then fill the shadows with an external flash unit using a white light slave I can take about 400 shots before wearing the battery out. Don't use the speedlite at full power or it'll overheat quick. This lighting setup is perfect for models with bad skin...it washes those zits right off their face...no need to waste time in photoshop either....Also has the advantage of seeing straight through sheer clothing

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nastyking Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,174	i love mine __________________

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	canon makes sucky manuals get the magic lantern one easy to read

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abyss_al LOOKING FOR TRADES Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 15,605	the flash sux... http://www.dpreview.com best place to learn about the camera http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d __________________ EMAIL: allen @ vasmediagroup.com \| ICQ: 311329761 \| SKYPE: abyss.al \| AIM: xABYSSxALx

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nojob The Original NoJob Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Jerzzey Posts: 3,682	those are good cameras. I had a an eos rebel in 95

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rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	BTW I've found the internal flash consistently overexposes unless the closest object is tiny, or more than a couple of metres away. I usually wrap a tissue around the flash (to diffuse the light for a more pleasing effect) then switch to manual mode, varying the aperture to get the exposure correct. There's probably a better/right way to do it, but that works for me. I'll buy an external flash one of thse days.

03-12-2005, 08:14 PM	#19
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Hey, are you talking about the REBEL or DIGITAL REBEL. There's a big diff between the two.