what is the normal convertion from free to paid with cams.com ? - GoFuckYourself.com

skillfull · 03-12-2005, 12:40 PM

just wanna know if im doing something bad or my numbers are normal ;)

teksonline · 03-12-2005, 12:42 PM

I want to know what these 1.00 signups are and how come 0 ever convert

TORTOISE · 03-12-2005, 12:46 PM

Are you on the percentage or per sign up program skillfull and l.ll try to help ..as l,m on the percentage and have been with cams.com/lars quite a while

skillfull · 03-12-2005, 12:48 PM

i am with revshare (%)

Xenophage · 03-12-2005, 12:55 PM

Legendary Lars % or PPS whats best ?

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I get this question all the time hopefully this will help clear the air a bit. I am reposting it from another thread but hopefully it is informative.

first off % is better than PPS on our system. I have one webmaster who sends about 2000 traffic a day to 2 accounts. on PPS and one % and has been doing this for over a year. He makes around $100 a day on each account. The difference is if he turned off both accounts today the % account would pay out for more than a year to come slowly declining over time.

As for how many free signups convert to customers, that really varies on were the traffic comes from and how it is sent to us. I have seen only one trend, if your free signups to traffic sent is over 5% then you should do well with us and te closer you are to 10% conversion from traffic to free signup the more money you will make.

And on to the real hat trick
In live cams there are customers and then there are REAL customers (WHALES) kinda like a casino. 1 (whale) can equal 100 customers. it usuallly takes a good ammount of traffic to find that one whale, a whale can spend as much as $20,000 in a month. as you can see at 20% this is $4000 your cut. Obviously that is the extreme but havina guy who spends 5000 is not unusual.

Now sometimes someone sends us some traffic and it does not convert in the first couple days, and they pull the plug. Thinking this program sucks or whatever. Mostly they just did not stick around long enough to find the GOLD ! This is different than sending traffic to paysites. These customers come back every day and talk to girls. Eventually they try it out. the free signup you send today can turn into a sale 2 months or a year later. But if you have stopped sending traffic, you likely forget all about that when ya get your check a year later.

On the other hand sometimes we get a customer who sends a little traffic lands a WHALE their first week and think oh my god this porgram is the greatest converting thing on the planet ! It typoically takes a good 6 months or so of steady traffic to reach a peak performance but can take up to a year.

This is a long term partnership, Many companies have been with us for years and we are inside almost every major paysite company there is. There is a reason for that !

Please give us a shot at converting your traffic, but give us a fair shot at it and remember it takes a bit more time with live cams but the payoffs can be wicked for waiting around

skillfull · 03-12-2005, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Legendary Lars % or PPS whats best ?

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I get this question all the time hopefully this will help clear the air a bit. I am reposting it from another thread but hopefully it is informative.

first off % is better than PPS on our system. I have one webmaster who sends about 2000 traffic a day to 2 accounts. on PPS and one % and has been doing this for over a year. He makes around $100 a day on each account. The difference is if he turned off both accounts today the % account would pay out for more than a year to come slowly declining over time.

As for how many free signups convert to customers, that really varies on were the traffic comes from and how it is sent to us. I have seen only one trend, if your free signups to traffic sent is over 5% then you should do well with us and te closer you are to 10% conversion from traffic to free signup the more money you will make.

And on to the real hat trick
In live cams there are customers and then there are REAL customers (WHALES) kinda like a casino. 1 (whale) can equal 100 customers. it usuallly takes a good ammount of traffic to find that one whale, a whale can spend as much as $20,000 in a month. as you can see at 20% this is $4000 your cut. Obviously that is the extreme but havina guy who spends 5000 is not unusual.

Now sometimes someone sends us some traffic and it does not convert in the first couple days, and they pull the plug. Thinking this program sucks or whatever. Mostly they just did not stick around long enough to find the GOLD ! This is different than sending traffic to paysites. These customers come back every day and talk to girls. Eventually they try it out. the free signup you send today can turn into a sale 2 months or a year later. But if you have stopped sending traffic, you likely forget all about that when ya get your check a year later.

On the other hand sometimes we get a customer who sends a little traffic lands a WHALE their first week and think oh my god this porgram is the greatest converting thing on the planet ! It typoically takes a good 6 months or so of steady traffic to reach a peak performance but can take up to a year.

This is a long term partnership, Many companies have been with us for years and we are inside almost every major paysite company there is. There is a reason for that !

Please give us a shot at converting your traffic, but give us a fair shot at it and remember it takes a bit more time with live cams but the payoffs can be wicked for waiting around

thank for the quick reply
my unique to free sign-up ratio is 1:10,6
so around 10%
746 unique for 70 free sign-up for the volume info :P
will continue to send traffic and see what happens ;)

Xenophage · 03-12-2005, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by skillfull

thank for the quick reply
my unique to free sign-up ratio is 1:10,6
so around 10%
746 unique for 70 free sign-up for the volume info :P
will continue to send traffic and see what happens ;)

ok you should do over well over time. It hard to tell on only 750 traffic. But the % is very good ! anything over like 7% is sweet traffic.

Xenophage · 03-12-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by teksonline

I want to know what these 1.00 signups are and how come 0 ever convert

are you sending to $1 sites ? There is specific linkin to send to the $1 sites, they are differnt than our normal cam sites they are set up more like paysites.

There is no free signup with the $1 site you get paid when the customer buys the $1 lifetime Join.

skillfull · 03-12-2005, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

ok you should do over well over time. It hard to tell on only 750 traffic. But the % is very good ! anything over like 7% is sweet traffic.

yep i know the amount isnt that great but just wanna know if what i was doing is good
thank for the answer and we will see what happening with that soon ;)

teksonline · 03-12-2005, 02:11 PM

"are you sending to $1 sites ? There is specific linkin to send to the $1 sites, they are differnt than our normal cam sites they are set up more like paysites.

There is no free signup with the $1 site you get paid when the customer buys the $1 lifetime Join." --lars

I dont know how theyre getting to this lifetime join.. i am the type that likes to get the surfers cards out right away

I would like to get changed to the % program

Kevsh · 03-12-2005, 03:52 PM

Thanks for the great article, Lars. Good explanation there, and I've found my experiences to be similar: One cam program I signed up for I got a "whale" in the first two weeks - but not even close to a 2nd one in over 8 months of promoting them.

On the other hand, another cam program got almost zero signups (although on fairly little traffic) in the first 6 months and then a few a week after that.

After all this, I've found that patience really is important and diversifying where and how you get your traffic. Try different pages, banners, iframes, text links, etc. until you see some good patterns.

Even then, as I saw last month with cams.com, the %visitors/paid sign-ups can vary wildly. P-a-t-i-e-n-c-e.

thaifan99 · 03-12-2005, 04:04 PM

Lars......who would you recommend for Gay Cams traffic........ im dying here since HSN made their change........ifriends doesnt appeal. ANy ideas?

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03-12-2005, 04:04 PM	#12
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03-12-2005, 12:42 PM	#2
teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	I want to know what these 1.00 signups are and how come 0 ever convert

03-12-2005, 12:46 PM	#3
TORTOISE Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LONDON/MONTREAL Posts: 734	Are you on the percentage or per sign up program skillfull and l.ll try to help ..as l,m on the percentage and have been with cams.com/lars quite a while

03-12-2005, 12:55 PM	#5
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Legendary Lars % or PPS whats best ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I get this question all the time hopefully this will help clear the air a bit. I am reposting it from another thread but hopefully it is informative. first off % is better than PPS on our system. I have one webmaster who sends about 2000 traffic a day to 2 accounts. on PPS and one % and has been doing this for over a year. He makes around $100 a day on each account. The difference is if he turned off both accounts today the % account would pay out for more than a year to come slowly declining over time. As for how many free signups convert to customers, that really varies on were the traffic comes from and how it is sent to us. I have seen only one trend, if your free signups to traffic sent is over 5% then you should do well with us and te closer you are to 10% conversion from traffic to free signup the more money you will make. And on to the real hat trick In live cams there are customers and then there are REAL customers (WHALES) kinda like a casino. 1 (whale) can equal 100 customers. it usuallly takes a good ammount of traffic to find that one whale, a whale can spend as much as $20,000 in a month. as you can see at 20% this is $4000 your cut. Obviously that is the extreme but havina guy who spends 5000 is not unusual. Now sometimes someone sends us some traffic and it does not convert in the first couple days, and they pull the plug. Thinking this program sucks or whatever. Mostly they just did not stick around long enough to find the GOLD ! This is different than sending traffic to paysites. These customers come back every day and talk to girls. Eventually they try it out. the free signup you send today can turn into a sale 2 months or a year later. But if you have stopped sending traffic, you likely forget all about that when ya get your check a year later. On the other hand sometimes we get a customer who sends a little traffic lands a WHALE their first week and think oh my god this porgram is the greatest converting thing on the planet ! It typoically takes a good 6 months or so of steady traffic to reach a peak performance but can take up to a year. This is a long term partnership, Many companies have been with us for years and we are inside almost every major paysite company there is. There is a reason for that ! Please give us a shot at converting your traffic, but give us a fair shot at it and remember it takes a bit more time with live cams but the payoffs can be wicked for waiting around

03-12-2005, 02:11 PM	#10
teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	"are you sending to $1 sites ? There is specific linkin to send to the $1 sites, they are differnt than our normal cam sites they are set up more like paysites. There is no free signup with the $1 site you get paid when the customer buys the $1 lifetime Join." --lars I dont know how theyre getting to this lifetime join.. i am the type that likes to get the surfers cards out right away I would like to get changed to the % program

03-12-2005, 03:52 PM	#11
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	Thanks for the great article, Lars. Good explanation there, and I've found my experiences to be similar: One cam program I signed up for I got a "whale" in the first two weeks - but not even close to a 2nd one in over 8 months of promoting them. On the other hand, another cam program got almost zero signups (although on fairly little traffic) in the first 6 months and then a few a week after that. After all this, I've found that patience really is important and diversifying where and how you get your traffic. Try different pages, banners, iframes, text links, etc. until you see some good patterns. Even then, as I saw last month with cams.com, the %visitors/paid sign-ups can vary wildly. P-a-t-i-e-n-c-e.