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AaronM · 03-14-2005, 11:14 AM

It seems that they denied ALL of my recent key word requests because I run an adult site.

Actually...Their beef is not that I run an adult site but that the key words were not naughty enough to point to an adult site.

WTF kind of bullshit is that?

If I want to register a porn stars name then point it to an adult site they will decline me unless her name is "Peter Pussy Fucker" or something.

Now, I could understand this if I were requesting key words like "dishwasher, Sprint, Canned Tomatoes.....etc..." BUT...I'm registering the names of porn stars AND PAYING FOR THEM for Christ's sake.

Cocksuckers.

adonthenet · 03-14-2005, 11:16 AM

yeah Ive heared about this problem with overture...
just dont go with them.. thats it.

Furious_Male · 03-14-2005, 11:18 AM

A lot of the engines do that now. They are trying to keep adult sites away from general terms. The problem is a lot of them don't understand that someone searching for a porn star name IS searching for porn. Not some sort of bio or something main stream.

wargames · 03-14-2005, 11:20 AM

Yup had the same problem with them. Adult URL: Non-Adult Term . The funny thing is the site i was sending traffic to was not really an adult site. They got a bunch of moron reviewers there.

WiredGuy · 03-14-2005, 11:22 AM

Oh boy, I wish you would have done a search about Overture before using them. They are the biggest pain to buy traffic from of any PPC search engine. Anyways, to answer your question, they have a master list of approved adult keywords. If you submit a keyword which is not on this list, they will reject you, no possibility of appealing. Now they won't share with you the list either (go figure why, they claim its a trade secret) but I have a script which can figure out if a keyword is on their adult list or not. If you email me your list, I'll send you back the list of which ones are adult and which ones are not. You still have a big challenge in front of you to prove relevancy and to give them a username/password. I know its a huge headache but they do have a lot of traffic if you can ever get listed.

WG

AaronM · 03-14-2005, 11:24 AM

Thanks Charles...We'll chat in a bit.

StuartD · 03-14-2005, 11:27 AM

WG is THE MAN!

WiredGuy · 03-14-2005, 11:28 AM

Just wait until you get some really creative rejection notices. I once submitted a TCG site, got them a username/password and they rejected all of my listings because one of the upsell links in the members areas went to a videostore in which that videostore sold a torture film. The adult keyword list is going to be the least of your concerns after a few more rejections

WG

Phoenix · 03-14-2005, 11:32 AM

overture = ghey

hjnet · 03-14-2005, 11:36 AM

IJust keep submitting the same listing requests again and again, and don't try to find any sense in their replies, that could lead to instant madness

And write them a few emails and tell them that they're idiots (in a polite way), that works for me most of the time.

Hank_Heartland · 03-14-2005, 11:39 AM

I sent them 21 keywords related to Stripper, nude stripper etc, etc, etc, and 14 got rejected for t/d shit. Ofcourse the ones with the most searches are the ones that got turned down

undermyspell · 03-14-2005, 11:44 AM

I just started working with Overture and it's been a bloody nightmare.. they even rejected lesbian webcam as a non adult term. It absolutely floored me. I've encountered the "there is something being advertised on your site that Overture does not wish to be connected to"... who the hell knows what that one was all about. It was just a free site for christ sakes. But, if you're doing anything softcore, in the lesbian or gay realm or web cam it's damn tough to get any by them. So far, i'm running about a 40% approval rate on the above terms but I have to get it down to a science to get a 100% approval rate.

WiredGuy · 03-14-2005, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by undermyspell

I just started working with Overture and it's been a bloody nightmare.. they even rejected lesbian webcam as a non adult term. It absolutely floored me. I've encountered the "there is something being advertised on your site that Overture does not wish to be connected to"... who the hell knows what that one was all about. It was just a free site for christ sakes. But, if you're doing anything softcore, in the lesbian or gay realm or web cam it's damn tough to get any by them. So far, i'm running about a 40% approval rate on the above terms but I have to get it down to a science to get a 100% approval rate.

I've got it down to about a 95% approval rating (of the ones on their adult list), but I usually go through 3-4 rounds of rejections and appeals.

WG

WiredGuy · 03-14-2005, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland

I sent them 21 keywords related to Stripper, nude stripper etc, etc, etc, and 14 got rejected for t/d shit. Ofcourse the ones with the most searches are the ones that got turned down

t/d rejections are the most common. For these types of rejections, Overture wants you to put the keyword into the title and descriptions and most of the time you can get them included. You should also have the same content on the landing page.

WG

Hank_Heartland · 03-14-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

t/d rejections are the most common. For these types of rejections, Overture wants you to put the keyword into the title and descriptions and most of the time you can get them included. You should also have the same content on the landing page.

WG

Thanks for the help WiredGuy

GUNNER · 03-14-2005, 12:16 PM

I had it out with one of their reps on the phone... never been back since.

fuck overture

hydro · 03-14-2005, 12:50 PM

i shit on overture

hydro · 03-14-2005, 12:51 PM

besides, getting good spots on msn and yahoo isnt as hard as google and that is a pretty decent chunk of the traffic from overture

pornguy · 03-14-2005, 12:52 PM

We got denied for bad wives and dirty wives one time.

brand0n · 03-14-2005, 12:53 PM

overture is fucking great. they pay the mortgage.

Rinaldo · 03-14-2005, 12:58 PM

Overture is my wicked step brother

CybermedAndy · 03-14-2005, 01:00 PM

Overture gives me much stress and often

NetRodent · 03-14-2005, 01:10 PM

Overture is a real pain but things might improve. Appearently the same guy who's responsible for the adult space on Inktomi is taking on the Overture adult space as well. He's been quite reasonable in the past, although I have no idea how much latitude he'll have with Overture.

WiredGuy · 03-14-2005, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetRodent

Overture is a real pain but things might improve. Appearently the same guy who's responsible for the adult space on Inktomi is taking on the Overture adult space as well. He's been quite reasonable in the past, although I have no idea how much latitude he'll have with Overture.

I hate to say this, but I hope they don't improve. It creates a barrier to entry, more people will give up trying to get listed and keep the bids and competition lower.

WG

03-14-2005, 11:14 AM	#1
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Well...Overture just pissed me off. It seems that they denied ALL of my recent key word requests because I run an adult site. Actually...Their beef is not that I run an adult site but that the key words were not naughty enough to point to an adult site. WTF kind of bullshit is that? If I want to register a porn stars name then point it to an adult site they will decline me unless her name is "Peter Pussy Fucker" or something. Now, I could understand this if I were requesting key words like "dishwasher, Sprint, Canned Tomatoes.....etc..." BUT...I'm registering the names of porn stars AND PAYING FOR THEM for Christ's sake. Cocksuckers.

03-14-2005, 11:18 AM	#3
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,881	A lot of the engines do that now. They are trying to keep adult sites away from general terms. The problem is a lot of them don't understand that someone searching for a porn star name IS searching for porn. Not some sort of bio or something main stream. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

03-14-2005, 11:20 AM	#4
wargames Kliris Join Date: May 2003 Location: ca Posts: 10,423	Yup had the same problem with them. Adult URL: Non-Adult Term . The funny thing is the site i was sending traffic to was not really an adult site. They got a bunch of moron reviewers there. __________________ ICQ 212-115-582 Email Steve at Vas Media Group .com

03-14-2005, 11:22 AM	#5
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,486	Oh boy, I wish you would have done a search about Overture before using them. They are the biggest pain to buy traffic from of any PPC search engine. Anyways, to answer your question, they have a master list of approved adult keywords. If you submit a keyword which is not on this list, they will reject you, no possibility of appealing. Now they won't share with you the list either (go figure why, they claim its a trade secret) but I have a script which can figure out if a keyword is on their adult list or not. If you email me your list, I'll send you back the list of which ones are adult and which ones are not. You still have a big challenge in front of you to prove relevancy and to give them a username/password. I know its a huge headache but they do have a lot of traffic if you can ever get listed. WG __________________ I play with Google.

03-14-2005, 11:27 AM	#7
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	WG is THE MAN! __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

03-14-2005, 11:16 AM	#2
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	yeah Ive heared about this problem with overture... just dont go with them.. thats it.

03-14-2005, 11:24 AM	#6
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Thanks Charles...We'll chat in a bit.

03-14-2005, 11:28 AM	#8
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,486	Just wait until you get some really creative rejection notices. I once submitted a TCG site, got them a username/password and they rejected all of my listings because one of the upsell links in the members areas went to a videostore in which that videostore sold a torture film. The adult keyword list is going to be the least of your concerns after a few more rejections WG __________________ I play with Google.

03-14-2005, 11:32 AM	#9
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,462	overture = ghey __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

03-14-2005, 11:36 AM	#10
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	IJust keep submitting the same listing requests again and again, and don't try to find any sense in their replies, that could lead to instant madness And write them a few emails and tell them that they're idiots (in a polite way), that works for me most of the time.

03-14-2005, 11:39 AM	#11
Hank_Heartland Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: chicago, il Posts: 3,987	I sent them 21 keywords related to Stripper, nude stripper etc, etc, etc, and 14 got rejected for t/d shit. Ofcourse the ones with the most searches are the ones that got turned down __________________ Icq = 459565429 AIM = butlerhankb http://stripperpins.com Twitter = @stripperpins Facebook = Stripperpins.com [email protected]

03-14-2005, 11:44 AM	#12
undermyspell Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 875	I just started working with Overture and it's been a bloody nightmare.. they even rejected lesbian webcam as a non adult term. It absolutely floored me. I've encountered the "there is something being advertised on your site that Overture does not wish to be connected to"... who the hell knows what that one was all about. It was just a free site for christ sakes. But, if you're doing anything softcore, in the lesbian or gay realm or web cam it's damn tough to get any by them. So far, i'm running about a 40% approval rate on the above terms but I have to get it down to a science to get a 100% approval rate.

03-14-2005, 12:16 PM	#16
GUNNER Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,098	I had it out with one of their reps on the phone... never been back since. fuck overture __________________ gunner @tutamail.com 25 years in the jizz biz

03-14-2005, 12:50 PM	#17
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	i shit on overture

03-14-2005, 12:51 PM	#18
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	besides, getting good spots on msn and yahoo isnt as hard as google and that is a pretty decent chunk of the traffic from overture

03-14-2005, 12:52 PM	#19
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03-14-2005, 12:53 PM	#20
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	overture is fucking great. they pay the mortgage.

03-14-2005, 12:58 PM	#21
Rinaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 5,086	Overture is my wicked step brother

03-14-2005, 01:00 PM	#22
CybermedAndy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 4,170	Overture gives me much stress and often __________________ Add some upsell items to your pages here!

03-14-2005, 01:10 PM	#23
NetRodent Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In the walls of your house. Posts: 3,985	Overture is a real pain but things might improve. Appearently the same guy who's responsible for the adult space on Inktomi is taking on the Overture adult space as well. He's been quite reasonable in the past, although I have no idea how much latitude he'll have with Overture. __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --H.L. Mencken