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  • MetaformX
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    • Mar 2002
    • 6704

    #1

    So if someone wanted to sell an Affiliate program for $2.5 million

    If a company wanted to sell their adult Affiliate program and lets say that program was generating $100,000 per month in net profits, and their asking price was 2.5 Million, which translates to 24 months net profit, which I think would be fair considering the assets needed to run a program that is generating $100,000 per month in NET PROFITS...

    Would there be any buyers out there?

    The reason I ask is I have seen several programs just close down instead of the owners even attempting to sell the program, which begs the question, would there be any buyers out there with that kind of financial backing that would invest 1 or 2 million dollars to purchase a thriving program? Or build their own from scratch?
  • DutchTeenCash
    I like Dutch Girls
    • Feb 2003
    • 21684

    #2
    im sure there are ppl here who could cough up 2 mln but most of them run big programs themselves and wouldnt be interested imho... then again there are lotsa ppl out there who burn 5mln a year just on high risk ventures so theres a market for sure...

    from a webmaster pov : im proud to be at this point with this nett profit with dutchteencash and wouldnt wanna buy a program for whatever money

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    • azguy
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      • Nov 2004
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      #3
      No way in hell. Only a sucker would pay this much

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      • Young
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        • Nov 2004
        • 10468

        #4
        Originally posted by azguy
        No way in hell. Only a sucker would pay this much
        How would you know? Your Adultie.com has been in the works since you joined the site the anticipation is killing us.
        Last edited by Young; 03-11-2005, 01:45 PM.
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        • Furious_Female
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          • Oct 2002
          • 8187

          #5
          It would be a worthy investment for someone in that financial league; providing all the documentation is there and the sites/memberships/affiliates have the same promising future.
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          • MetaformX
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            • Mar 2002
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            #6
            Originally posted by azguy
            No way in hell. Only a sucker would pay this much
            Well, 2 years X Net Profits as a measure of a adult online business's worth could be disputed. It could be 1 year X Net profits, but that would still be 1.2 Million.

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            • JesseD
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              • Nov 2002
              • 473

              #7
              I think the price is reasonable - but I don't think there are too many programs that are netting 100k a month that are closing down.


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              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                best designer on GFY
                • Mar 2003
                • 30307

                #8
                Funny thing is, I have matched up buyers and sellers of programs for a little while now.

                People do buy them!

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                • MrJackMeHoff
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 4569

                  #9
                  As volitile as adult programs seem to be looks like an idiots deal to me.

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                  • teksonline
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 2904

                    #10
                    A lot of red tape to consider other than the affiliate program itself, from the sites, content rights, technology side.. If a company had 2.5 million to spend then they really wouldnt need to buy another persons established system, I wouldnt think.

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                    • thepornplayer
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 39

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MetaformX
                      If a company wanted to sell their adult Affiliate program and lets say that program was generating $100,000 per month in net profits, and their asking price was 2.5 Million, which translates to 24 months net profit, which I think would be fair considering the assets needed to run a program that is generating $100,000 per month in NET PROFITS...

                      Would there be any buyers out there?

                      The reason I ask is I have seen several programs just close down instead of the owners even attempting to sell the program, which begs the question, would there be any buyers out there with that kind of financial backing that would invest 1 or 2 million dollars to purchase a thriving program? Or build their own from scratch?
                      no way. It is not just about the affiliation program but about the sites its promote. What is the total revenue and the profitability v. menaging more sites. also , getting back 2.5 million in two years is 2 mich in this indusrty.

                      So , if the buyer does not have a strategic agenda , there is not deal with these numbers.

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                      • DutchTeenCash
                        I like Dutch Girls
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 21684

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MetaformX
                        Well, 2 years X Net Profits as a measure of a adult online business's worth could be disputed. It could be 1 year X Net profits, but that would still be 1.2 Million.
                        believe me ppl who can burn 1-2 mln arent interested in adult

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                        • thepornplayer
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                          • Feb 2005
                          • 39

                          #13
                          Originally posted by thinkx
                          believe me ppl who can burn 1-2 mln arent interested in adult
                          not true !

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                          • DutchTeenCash
                            I like Dutch Girls
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 21684

                            #14
                            Originally posted by thepornplayer
                            not true !
                            sadfully it is, my best buddy deals with these ppl workin at the biggest private bank in the world, talked to him bout this many times, im not talkin bout joe average who has 1 mln, but ppl who burn 5 mln a month on russian private banks

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                            • Shooting_Manic
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                              • Jan 2005
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                              #15
                              Interesting. However, $400,000 can build a very strong set of sites and all the trafffic they would need to build it into a 100k net a month program in a years time.
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                              • DutchTeenCash
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                                • Feb 2003
                                • 21684

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
                                Interesting. However, $400,000 can build a very strong set of sites and all the trafffic they would need to build it into a 100k net a month program in a years time.
                                money is nice, but it takes a lot more, every webm knows that plus i seriously doubt 400k builds a 100k nett/month program in 1 yr
                                Last edited by DutchTeenCash; 03-11-2005, 01:55 PM.

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                                • BRISK
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                                  • Feb 2003
                                  • 12240

                                  #17
                                  I would rather spend the $2.5M on building a new affiliate program.
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                                  • DutchTeenCash
                                    I like Dutch Girls
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 21684

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BRISK
                                    I would rather spend the $2.5M on building a new affiliate program.
                                    exactly thats the true spirit

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                                    • thepornplayer
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                                      • Feb 2005
                                      • 39

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by thinkx
                                      sadfully it is, my best buddy deals with these ppl workin at the biggest private bank in the world, talked to him bout this many times, im not talkin bout joe average who has 1 mln, but ppl who burn 5 mln a month on russian private banks
                                      most of them not, I agree. There are exceptions. especialy people who grown within tha adult industry.

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                                      • MetaformX
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
                                        Interesting. However, $400,000 can build a very strong set of sites and all the trafffic they would need to build it into a 100k net a month program in a years time.
                                        Not anyone with $400,000 can start a affiliate program and make it a success. You have to have the know how if you want to create a program that nets $100,000 per month. But the flip side of that is if you have $400K to start a program, you are probably no dummie when it comes to starting a business.

                                        So the question really is, would there be anyone out there with 1-2 million to invest in a program that would prefer that purchasing an already succefull program, as oppose to investing $200,000 and building their own program from scratch and saving a couple of million.

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                                        • thepornplayer
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                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 39

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MetaformX
                                          Not anyone with $400,000 can start a affiliate program and make it a success. You have to have the know how if you want to create a program that nets $100,000 per month. But the flip side of that is if you have $400K to start a program, you are probably no dummie when it comes to starting a business.

                                          So the question really is, would there be anyone out there with 1-2 million to invest in a program that would prefer that purchasing an already succefull program, as oppose to investing $200,000 and building their own program from scratch and saving a couple of million.
                                          the time factor should be taken into consideration. 2.5 years for returning your investment is way too much in this indusrty.

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                                          • V_RocKs
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                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 32448

                                            #22
                                            No... the return time for the investment is to great since the sites may be crap in that length of time. Also, no one leaves a $100,000 profit per month program... they leave programs with 5,000 a month in profit and $250,000 gross... or worse...

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                                            • DutchTeenCash
                                              I like Dutch Girls
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 21684

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by thepornplayer
                                              most of them not, I agree. There are exceptions. especialy people who grown within tha adult industry.
                                              there are maybe 5 ppl within the adult industry who can burn 5 mln a month, there are 100s who can outside. I didnt see anyone in the adult biz on Forbes lately...

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                                              • MetaformX
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
                                                As volitile as adult programs seem to be looks like an idiots deal to me.
                                                Everyone talks about how volatile this industry is, and that is true, but one of the major reasons for the volitaility is the nature of the internet, so any purely internet business, wether adult or not, will always have a higher degree of volatility.

                                                Of course due to the particular nature of adult, that degree of volatility is slightly raised, but MAX CASH, ARS, CE, and some of the other dinosaurs in the industry have risen through the volatility, and unless some ground breaking regulation is passed that fundemantally changes the way adult does business on the internet, there will always be companies around that can rise above the volatility.

                                                Ok, I'll stop saying volatility now.

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                                                • DutchTeenCash
                                                  I like Dutch Girls
                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                  • 21684

                                                  #25
                                                  dont wanna be an ahole but i just clicked sites and got this

                                                  Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "sites.tpl" in /usr/home/metaformx/nats/Smarty-2.6.7/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1088

                                                  and on signup

                                                  Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "signup_adv0.tpl" in /usr/home/metaformx/nats/Smarty-2.6.7/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1088

                                                  Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "signup_adv0.tpl" in /usr/home/metaformx/nats/Smarty-2.6.7/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1088

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                                                  • MetaformX
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                    no one leaves a $100,000 profit per month program...
                                                    I disagree. Many people in adult have aspirations of mainstream success, especially those who have made money in this business and are looking to diversify.

                                                    If you had a chance to take 2 years worth of your money upfront, and invest it in a mainstream project (there are never a shortage of those) many people would consider it.

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                                                    • MetaformX
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                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                      • 6704

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by thinkx
                                                      dont wanna be an ahole but i just clicked sites and got this

                                                      Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "sites.tpl" in /usr/home/metaformx/nats/Smarty-2.6.7/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1088

                                                      and on signup

                                                      Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "signup_adv0.tpl" in /usr/home/metaformx/nats/Smarty-2.6.7/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1088

                                                      Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "signup_adv0.tpl" in /usr/home/metaformx/nats/Smarty-2.6.7/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1088

                                                      Right, the signup and sites are down for a reason

                                                      We are doing in house testing, so it's not ready for release untill it's maximized. Just a few more days.

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                                                      • Shooting_Manic
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jan 2005
                                                        • 1740

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by MetaformX
                                                        Not anyone with $400,000 can start a affiliate program and make it a success. You have to have the know how if you want to create a program that nets $100,000 per month. But the flip side of that is if you have $400K to start a program, you are probably no dummie when it comes to starting a business.

                                                        So the question really is, would there be anyone out there with 1-2 million to invest in a program that would prefer that purchasing an already succefull program, as oppose to investing $200,000 and building their own program from scratch and saving a couple of million.

                                                        I would build it myself without question and might be doing just that. Why buy someone elses problems when you can create your own? haha

                                                        Also, I would not invest it into paysites either. Adult yes, paysites, no.
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                                                        • MetaformX
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                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                          • 6704

                                                          #29
                                                          Didn't Marc De sell a portion of ARS to another company a few years ago? Many assume he is still the main owner of ARS, but I was under the impression that his role is more in the area of a director. If that is correct, I wonder how much ARS was sold for? I could be totally off though, maybe someone can correct me.

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                                                          • Alex
                                                            So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                            • 10963

                                                            #30
                                                            No one would buy a program
                                                            But you would be able to sell the paysites, with active members and rebills
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                                                            • DutchTeenCash
                                                              I like Dutch Girls
                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 21684

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by MetaformX
                                                              Right, the signup and sites are down for a reason

                                                              We are doing in house testing, so it's not ready for release untill it's maximized. Just a few more days.
                                                              k got that... a few lines on a blank page would be nicer imho...

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                                                              • robfantasy
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                                                                • Jun 2002
                                                                • 6445

                                                                #32
                                                                how bout hire a headhunter to coax super affiliates into pushing your program.
                                                                Looking to speak w/ high volume nutra CPA affiliates or networks... msg me

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                                                                • mrthumbs
                                                                  salad tossing sig guy
                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                  • 11702

                                                                  #33
                                                                  2 years is waay to much in this business (processing!!) maybbe 6 monthsd and you could find a large program to buy you out.

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                                                                  • detoxed
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                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                    • 17798

                                                                    #34
                                                                    For $2 million online, you can double your money at least every 12 months. Why waste the money buying an affiliate program that will make you less than starting up a new one?

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                                                                    • fünkmaster
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                                      • 791

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
                                                                      Interesting. However, $400,000 can build a very strong set of sites and all the trafffic they would need to build it into a 100k net a month program in a years time.
                                                                      ... if you could do that, I'd give you half a mil and make you a 50% partner.

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                                                                      • MetaformX
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                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                        • 6704

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by thinkx
                                                                        k got that... a few lines on a blank page would be nicer imho...
                                                                        Your right, we will do that. Thanks for the input.

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                                                                        • punker barbie
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                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                          • 10232

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Shir anyone can try sell anything, but it might be a tough job finding a buyer. best bet is to do payments or something.
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                                                                          • sonofsam
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                                                                            • Dec 2004
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            this is a great thread

                                                                            learned a lot
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                                                                            • Kimmykim
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                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                              • 16015

                                                                              #39
                                                                              The price isn't bad from a multiples standpoint. BUT, in this industry, I wouldn't consider doing it. There are too many things that could go wrong in two years to create a loss instead of a break even.

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                                                                              • xxxdesign-net
                                                                                My hips don't lie
                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                • 10129

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by fünkmaster
                                                                                ... if you could do that, I'd give you half a mil and make you a 50% partner.

                                                                                I could do it... Its ashame I dont know you enough to do any kind of partnership... But this thread made me realise what a retard I was for not spending more money on developping new sites when I can get my money back in a month or two...

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                                                                                • andrej_NDC
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                                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                                  • 7760

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  why do people buy a house when they can build one? Of course, you can sell it, but most of the ppl who cand afford it are only lurkers here and dont post.

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                                                                                  • Shooting_Manic
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                                    • 1740

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by fünkmaster
                                                                                    ... if you could do that, I'd give you half a mil and make you a 50% partner.

                                                                                    I could do it for less then that. I could do it on $250k and would need two years. Without question.
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                                                                                    • squizzel
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                      • 900

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      IMO its not viable but what the fuck do i know, i only make 1k a month hah.

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                                                                                      • flashfire
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                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                        • 13098

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        I would be weary, if a program was doing that well why would it be sold

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                                                                                        • andrej_NDC
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                          • 7760

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by flashfire
                                                                                          I would be weary, if a program was doing that well why would it be sold
                                                                                          do you think everything that is sold in any biz is bad? thats the only reason for selling something?

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                                                                                          • elric
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                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                            • 296

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            There are people who would pay that much.

                                                                                            But the problem would be verifying traffic and income.

                                                                                            $100k net? Says who? Are there audited financials?

                                                                                            and what about rebills? How would you verify the stats for past are real?

                                                                                            and the traffic? Where is it coming from? Will it go away if Google changes their algorithm? And so on...
                                                                                            <--- I have never worked with this program.

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                                                                                            • andrej_NDC
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                                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                                              • 7760

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by elric
                                                                                              $100k net? Says who? Are there audited financials?

                                                                                              and what about rebills? How would you verify the stats for past are real?
                                                                                              says the processor stats

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                                                                                              • gxer
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                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                • 846

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by thinkx
                                                                                                sadfully it is, my best buddy deals with these ppl workin at the biggest private bank in the world, talked to him bout this many times, im not talkin bout joe average who has 1 mln, but ppl who burn 5 mln a month on russian private banks
                                                                                                absolutely right , these people with few mln to spent will never invest in adult
                                                                                                just because they don't know this biz at all - that's the main reason.

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                                                                                                • elric
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                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                  • 296

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                                  says the processor stats
                                                                                                  You would trust the processor stats?

                                                                                                  How many IBILL threads are on the front page right now?
                                                                                                  <--- I have never worked with this program.

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                                                                                                  • azguy
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Young
                                                                                                    How would you know? Your Adultie.com has been in the works since you joined the site the anticipation is killing us.
                                                                                                    I've done enough business transactions to know a little about value. Ain't worth it.

                                                                                                    As for Adultie, well, it's a work in progress. I put it on hold for a few weeks so we can concentrate on a brilliant mainstream opportunity we have going, a true search-related killer app, but has nothing to do with adult.

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