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Old 03-11-2005, 05:42 AM   #1
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First 100K Ask Jolene results are in...

As mentioned in one of the other AJ posts I recently bought 1M clicks from AJ and promised to provide an update, well I'm 1/10 of the way through and here are the facts so far:

02/03 - Bought 1M clicks for $550

02/03 - Loaded 472 hosted galleries from 1 sponsor into a single campaign/program. Sponsor is one of the many full DVD download sites available, galleries have nice quality thumbshot screensgrabs, with DVD title, summary and pornstar names available for spidering. Also added (dvd, movies, download, pornstars, full) as my 5 chosen program/campaign keywords. Categorised as "General Hardcore", no gallery specific keywords added, maximum 3 galls/day scheduled, several galleries disqualified for already being run by others.

03/03 - campaign starts

10/03 - approx. 100K clicks delivered, stats:

~12.5K/day (not bad!)
clicks to sponsor - 586 which represents a 0.006% CTR! Something seriously wrong here!
1 sale @ $38
38-55 = $17 loss on first 100K

Who do I blame? Well firstly myself, this was a fairly deliberate approach to see if there was easy money to be made on AJ, I was deliberatly lazy with my choice of a generic sponsor, just dumped their entire hosted gallery collection into AJ and slapped-up a few keywords that were vaguely appropriate. All in all I spent about 30 mins on this first 100K and the results speak for themselves. I also feel some blame has to lie with the sponsor for that appalling CTR, if traffic is getting to the galleries they should at least be able to get a percentage point or 2 through to their site on design merit alone?!?

Conclusion: No easy money for the lazy. Which to be fair is what AJ have said all along.

Anyway learnt quite a bit and now onto the next 100K and some new tactics to be employed, dropping current sponsor (no really?!?), uploading new hosted galleries from a niche sponsor(s), spend some time on keyword research (1-2 hrs max), let it run....

Any comments, advice, sponsor suggestions, text-heavy hosted gallery suggestions greatfully appreciated.

Cheers.

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Old 03-11-2005, 05:45 AM   #2
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0,006% CTR?!? hmmmmmm thats impossible
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:45 AM   #3
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:47 AM   #4
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thanks for sharing the results. nice approach to see if this is an automatic moneymaker first... I think if you hook up niche galleries for the next K's and target them good that you'll get a decent profit out of it.
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:48 AM   #5
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0.006% CTR?


Should read 0.6% CTR !!!!
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:49 AM   #6
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your CTR SUCKS!!!
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:51 AM   #7
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Thanks, I'd completely missed that.....
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:51 AM   #8
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damn nice way to throw away money always give it your best shot from the start...
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:51 AM   #9
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your CTR SUCKS!!!
Thank you Mr. Obvious
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:57 AM   #10
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damn nice way to throw away money always give it your best shot from the start...
Its an ROI experiment, and you have no idea what my time costs.
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:00 AM   #11
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Perhaps the sponsor is counting 2nd page hits?
Nope, its firstpage.
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:02 AM   #12
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Wow that is a low CTR. My average CTR is around 4%
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:13 AM   #13
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If they had enough good traffic they wouldnt be selling it.
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:13 AM   #14
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If they had enough good traffic they wouldnt be selling it.
Yeah indeed. Thehun/al4a/madthumbs/google/overture they all suck
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:35 AM   #15
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Thanks for sharing mate!
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:53 AM   #16
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thanks for sharing ..

maybe it isnt a good idea to throw hosted gallerie sin as they have been already seen lots of time, making your own might work better but costs more time tho ...

Maybe some niche traffic would do better as general ones ...
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:58 AM   #17
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according to the ctr ... It also depends on the traffic qualuty ( I dont say AJ has bad one ) but it might be also an influence factor on the ctr .. I have had a gallery listed at one TGP where I get a 0,7 % CTR while the same Gall gets 2% on all the others .. so it is hard to say where the lack of your CTR is but might be both ;)
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Old 03-11-2005, 07:01 AM   #18
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If they had enough good traffic they wouldnt be selling it.
That's a common misconception. Guys with traffic are not necessarily experts in making sales. They make money by selling it, the buyer makes money by converting it.

If making sales was that easy then my calendar would say 1996.
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If they had enough good traffic they wouldnt be selling it.

ha so thehun is also a waste?
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Old 03-11-2005, 07:15 AM   #20
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How many paysite owners have been trying to suck the huns dick to get him to sign up and insert some fghs into his own site?
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Old 03-11-2005, 07:20 AM   #21
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If you can show us the galleries it would be even better!
we have great results with askjolene
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That's a common misconception. Guys with traffic are not necessarily experts in making sales. They make money by selling it, the buyer makes money by converting it.

If making sales was that easy then my calendar would say 1996.


Thank you hun, most people don't think that way. My b/f has sold traffic to people and the site they have it sent to is horrible looking so when they don't make mad $$ they blame the traffic when in fact if the site had looked better they might have made $$. It's kinda like a waitress they don't get a big tip if they aren't nice to the people.

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Old 03-11-2005, 07:45 AM   #23
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Hi cafeaulait!!!

I just read your results. Thanks for sharing your results.

I think we can make a better deal with our galleries.

Hit me up to discuss the deal in private.


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Old 03-11-2005, 07:52 AM   #24
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~12.5K/day (not bad!)
clicks to sponsor - 586 which represents a 0.006% CTR! Something seriously wrong here!
1 sale @ $38
38-55 = $17 loss on first 100K
Dear cafeaulait,

Please can you contact Toine at [email protected], ICQ rToine at 244-085-509. We would like to know why the CTR is so poor, maybe we can take a look at the keywords and of they are matching the topic of the galleries.

Thank you and looking forward to your answer.

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11. Would you like their names?
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I tried several times today to sign up for your program and everytime I get this:

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Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.



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Apache/2.0.48 (Unix) Server at 212.72.51.76 Port 80
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Hit me up on ICQ and I will setup an account for you!!!
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Iggy did my tech guy contacted you, let me know.
Do you still get that error ?
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Iggy did my tech guy contacted you, let me know.
Do you still get that error ?
Ah its for nastychannel progy. Everything on your site works fine and I like traffic
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