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Old 03-24-2006, 04:37 AM   #1
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PPC fruad refunds?

Anyone have any luck getting money back from PPC engines when you show them fraud that might be going on with your campaigns?
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Old 03-24-2006, 04:39 AM   #2
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good luck
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Old 03-24-2006, 04:41 AM   #3
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Old 03-24-2006, 04:43 AM   #4
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Track the clicks/visitors so you have it in black and white = yes.
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Old 03-24-2006, 05:18 PM   #5
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bump de bump
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Old 03-24-2006, 05:20 PM   #6
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I am working on one now. The engine chose to play stupid games but I am not giving up.
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Old 03-24-2006, 05:39 PM   #7
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With enough bitching and click logs, they'll cave. But its hardly worth the effort in my opinion. I either factor it into the ROI or just halt the campaign these days.
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Old 03-24-2006, 05:59 PM   #8
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I wouldn't waste my time. Exactly as Wiredguy just said, factor it into your ROI or ride it out on your effected campaign. It's just not worth the hassle.

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Old 03-24-2006, 06:42 PM   #9
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It's a bubble just waiting to burst.
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:27 PM   #10
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good luck! you won't see a penny!
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:29 PM   #11
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With enough bitching and click logs, they'll cave. But its hardly worth the effort in my opinion. I either factor it into the ROI or just halt the campaign these days.
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Not only halting the campaign, but let the rest if us know the details.
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:31 PM   #12
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It's a bubble just waiting to burst.
What are you talking about?
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:37 PM   #13
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i always got my money back when i showed fraudulent urls that have my ads. at least with the biggest ppc companies.
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:37 PM   #14
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Trying to get a refund is like trying to cancel your Aol dial up plan
Big time pain the ass. Good luck though
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:39 PM   #15
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A big thing I am seeing now is affiliates of the engines using the feeds linked through the script of a thumb tgp. Nothing like paying good money for blind TGP traffic.
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:43 PM   #16
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A big thing I am seeing now is affiliates of the engines using the feeds linked through the script of a thumb tgp. Nothing like paying good money for blind TGP traffic.
Wow, tell me which TGP's are doing this, I'd definitely bitch to the SE companies about this, that's just wrong. ICQ me in private if you'd rather not say.
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Old 03-26-2006, 11:05 AM   #17
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What are you talking about?
The mainstream Pay-Per-Click business model.

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A big thing I am seeing now is affiliates of the engines using the feeds linked through the script of a thumb tgp. Nothing like paying good money for blind TGP traffic.
Do you mean like this landing page:
topadult10.com/search.php?aid=51662&q=sexy+lingerie
Takes users to Shopzilla which has Google links.

If so, I've seen that before, IIRC, sexocean.com etc.
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