holland is finally outta iraq

[nico-t]

fucking dickriding piece of prime minister shit shouldnt have sent troops in the first place just to boost bush's income.... but hey im in a positive mood.

[Rich]

Here's what I find funny.

The Bush administration claims to be supporting democracy around the world. What is their idea of democracy?

Almost all of Europe was against the war in Iraq from the start. Huge numbers against it, 7-20% popular support for it in most countries. "New Europe", as the administration termed it, countries like Italy, Spain Poland, Ukraine, etc, had leaders send troops against the popular will of their people. They were praised by the administration. "Old Europe", Germany and France, had leaders who acted in accordance with the will of their people, and were against the war. They were criticized, as was Canada, whose politicians also acted according to the will of the people.

My point, what kind of democracy is Bush so fond of? He seems to be against governments who listen to the will of the population when it opposes US interests. That's what democracy is all about, right? He's talking about spreading democracy to the middle east while he's opposing it in Europe and North America.

[PlugRush Sascha]

Does this mean less marijuana in Iraq?

[FunForOne]

Originally Posted by Rich

Here's what I find funny.

The Bush administration claims to be supporting democracy around the world. What is their idea of democracy?

Almost all of Europe was against the war in Iraq from the start. Huge numbers against it, 7-20% popular support for it in most countries. "New Europe", as the administration termed it, countries like Italy, Spain Poland, Ukraine, etc, had leaders send troops against the popular will of their people. They were praised by the administration. "Old Europe", Germany and France, had leaders who acted in accordance with the will of their people, and were against the war. They were criticized, as was Canada, whose politicians also acted according to the will of the people.

Turned out that the people in Iraq and a few more countries that weren't profiting from the "oil for food" program wanted to vote also.

[jukeboxfrank]

What do you think should have been done in the middle if anything.
I am talking about before the US went in.

[Icon]

Originally Posted by FunForOne

Turned out that the people in Iraq and a few more countries that weren't profiting from the "oil for food" program wanted to vote also.

Again...not really splitting atoms in your computer chair there buddy....
CLUE: It doesn't sound smart to quote spin. fyi

[Workshop_Willy]

Originally Posted by Rich

Here's what I find funny.

The Bush administration claims to be supporting democracy around the world. What is their idea of democracy?

Almost all of Europe was against the war in Iraq from the start. Huge numbers against it, 7-20% popular support for it in most countries. "New Europe", as the administration termed it, countries like Italy, Spain Poland, Ukraine, etc, had leaders send troops against the popular will of their people. They were praised by the administration. "Old Europe", Germany and France, had leaders who acted in accordance with the will of their people, and were against the war. They were criticized, as was Canada, whose politicians also acted according to the will of the people.

My point, what kind of democracy is Bush so fond of? He seems to be against governments who listen to the will of the population when it opposes US interests. That's what democracy is all about, right? He's talking about spreading democracy to the middle east while he's opposing it in Europe and North America.

He supports the kind the Neville Chamberlain didn't support. If you need an explanation, look it up. "Peace in our time!"

[wargames]

Originally Posted by ktj4l

Does this mean less marijuana in Iraq?

[Workshop_Willy]

Originally Posted by jukeboxfrank

What do you think should have been done in the middle if anything.
I am talking about before the US went in.

Well, Saddam ignored 17 UN resolutions, equipped his army and built palaces during the sanctions rather than feed his people, looted Oil for Food along with that huckster Annan, and generally ignored all opportunities to join the civilized world. That's what was "done in the middle". 12 years of that crap was "done in the middle".

Rich? You may serve your lies and obfuscation now.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Rich

Here's what I find funny.

The Bush administration claims to be supporting democracy around the world. What is their idea of democracy?

Almost all of Europe was against the war in Iraq from the start. Huge numbers against it, 7-20% popular support for it in most countries. "New Europe", as the administration termed it, countries like Italy, Spain Poland, Ukraine, etc, had leaders send troops against the popular will of their people. They were praised by the administration. "Old Europe", Germany and France, had leaders who acted in accordance with the will of their people, and were against the war. They were criticized, as was Canada, whose politicians also acted according to the will of the people.

My point, what kind of democracy is Bush so fond of? He seems to be against governments who listen to the will of the population when it opposes US interests. That's what democracy is all about, right? He's talking about spreading democracy to the middle east while he's opposing it in Europe and North America.

You need to study world history a bit more - It's call "appeasement" and Europe seems to be rather fond of it.

Europe's idea here is "slap sanctions on them and they'll come around sooner or later". Ten years of sactions did nothing but make Saddam richer, while Iraq violated a number of UN agreements on a daily basis.

Perhaps if France was patroling the no fly zone - set up by the UN - and it was Frenchment getting shot at on a daily basis they'd think differently.

Either lead, follow, or get out of the way.

[BlueDesignStudios]

Originally Posted by ktj4l

Does this mean less marijuana in Iraq?

Guess so, unless the Australian troops sent to replace the Dutch are bringing weed with them