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| Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. | 
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|  03-06-2005, 04:43 AM | #1 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 
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				Call it what it is!!!
			 I'm tired of this shit! SHAVING IS STEALING I don't give a shit what we "tollerate", it's stealing, plain and simple. I see threads & posts about sponsors "shaving" here daily. Guess what folks... It's "STEALING". If you send a join to a sponsor, and they do not pay you for that join, they just stole your money. This is the lowest form of business practice that I can think of. Just because you're an idiot and decided to come up with some rediculous payout scheme, that ONLY works if you shave, does not mean that it makes it "okay" to do it.  | 
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|  03-06-2005, 04:45 AM | #2 | 
| C.R.E.A.M Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2003 
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				 | use nats sponsors    | 
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|  03-06-2005, 04:47 AM | #3 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 
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				 | RevShare4L | 
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|  03-06-2005, 04:51 AM | #4 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 
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				 | What's with these $100 minimum payouts? If someone sends you 1 join for $29.99, SEND THE FUCKING CHECK! What's so hard about this? This is just another way to "Shave". Webmaster sends 2 joins, and their commission is less than $100, so they don't get paid. There will ALWAYS be "extra" money floating around that is never paid out because of this practice. Why are there so many scammers in this industry? Can't we come up with some sort of a standard business practice, and stick to it? | 
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|  03-06-2005, 06:34 AM | #5 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta 
					Posts: 996
				 | The hardest part is finding out who is involved in a program. Programs are run by just a few people operating under different names. Rip off artists just shut down , and hide behind a new program when the heat gets on them. | 
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