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Juicy D. Links 03-06-2005 09:34 AM

TBH I dont condone beating of women...

But there are 3 sides to the story..........

We cant all jump on Ice for all we know he could have been attacked with a knife or whatever....

Just speculating.

Fletch XXX 03-06-2005 09:37 AM

i cant believe people actually taking up for this shit

you guys are amazing.

some guy beats up a chick for the second time in 9 months and you people still think he "could" be a nice guy still.

you people must live sheltered lives to not know how violent drunks are.

the guy beats up angele eyes when he gets drunk.

2 times in 9 months doesnt spell innocent.

anyone speaking up for this guy probably hits girls too

Juicy D. Links 03-06-2005 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
i cant believe people actually taking up for this shit

you guys are amazing.

some guy beats up a chick for the second time in 9 months and you people still think he "could" be a nice guy still.

you people must live sheltered lives to not know how violent drunks are.

the guy beats up angele eyes when he gets drunk.

2 times in 9 months doesnt spell innocent.

anyone speaking up for this guy probably hits girls too

2nd time? did not know that

Juicy D. Links 03-06-2005 09:38 AM

For the Record only time i would ever hit a girl is if she came after me with knife or gun and if my life was in danger.

TDF 03-06-2005 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
For the Record only time i would ever hit a girl is if she came after me with knife or gun and if my life was in danger.





since your gay and all this scenario wont happen any time soon :thumbsup

Fletch XXX 03-06-2005 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
2nd time? did not know that

as i said.

anyway, im out of this thread.

but exactly... why you think he is in jail now? second time in 9 months.

violent drunks never stop.

no sympahthy.

Alex 03-06-2005 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
For the Record only time i would ever hit a girl is if she came after me with knife or gun and if my life was in danger.

No if she came at you with a loaded gun shooting, you would run.

Juicy D. Links 03-06-2005 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
as i said.
people like to talk, but know nothing.

anyway, im out of this thread.

but exactly... why you think he is in jail now? second time in 9 months.

violent drunks never stop.

no sympahthy.

no fletch dont leaveeeeeeeeeeee i just woke up

brand0n 03-06-2005 09:41 AM

wow crazy shit. hope angel is ok.

Fletch XXX 03-06-2005 09:41 AM

heheh me too. was just checking the thrad its 8:41 am i got some crap to do

Juicy D. Links 03-06-2005 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
No if she came at you with a loaded gun shooting, you would run.


nah man , i would take my 3 point stance position and tackle her.

Fletch XXX 03-06-2005 09:42 AM

women need support during times like this, not any speculation regarding the man who hit them.

Juicy D. Links 03-06-2005 09:42 AM

Fletch I want to be on your ICQ please

116999839 Add me word

Fletch XXX 03-06-2005 09:43 AM

most women no matter what feel its their fault during shit like this.

NOT THE CASE.

angel eyes need support.

Juicy D. Links 03-06-2005 09:44 AM

For the Record

Just cause i wear "wifebeaters" aka hanes undershits doesnt make me one. I like the way they shows my trap muscles off

Juicy D. Links 03-06-2005 09:45 AM

Fletch desnt want to be my friend on ICQ :-(

AaronM 03-06-2005 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mardigras
Unless someone knows for sure what happened, often when there is a mutual fight and the cops are called only one party gets taken away :2 cents:


EXACTLY!

Now...Yes, this is real.

Take note: I do not support anybody beating a woman!

With that said.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy
by the way any dude who beats on their woman is a pussy in my book unless the broad cheated.

that deserves an good open hand slap.

Of course she cheated on him. He's known about it for many months...And she's probably done it more since then. BUT....That is still not a reason to beat her. In fact, he should beat himself for not accept help from a couple of us many months back when they broke up and we tried to help Rene move to Cali to get away from her.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx
man that's an aweful thing to say. Nobody asks for an abusive alcoholic to beat them. Nobody asks for a lunatic to beat them.

LOL...And the truth shall set you free.

Jenn has abused this boy for a year now. The abusive alcoholic in that relationship is her and I'm willing to bet that she is just as guilty for this domestic violence as he is...Maybe even more.

I wasn't there...I didn't see shit happen....But I do know these two people a lot better than most of you. I know Jenn lies, cheats, takes a lot of meds, and chases them wil alcohol on a regulart basis.

There are two sides to every story and this one is certainly no exception.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tala
Sounds like you made a quick call or Q contact. Is Jen all right? :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
Physically yes, emotionally no

Good. I'm happy to hear that she is not physically harmed and that everything is back to normal.

Fletch XXX 03-06-2005 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
Fletch desnt want to be my friend on ICQ :-(

not the case man, i do not even have icq on.

im on my way out man...

please email me if its business related.

i was just dropping in the thread, not doing contqact today :(

instant delivery man

http://www.overmindesign.com/contact.html

TDF 03-06-2005 09:52 AM

damn this thread is turning ugly

AaronM 03-06-2005 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
violent drunks never stop.

no sympahthy.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
women need support during times like this, not any speculation regarding the man who hit them.

So you will give support to a violent drunk female but not a violent drunk male?

Neither of these two people should be supported at this time. They have both fucked up...They both know it...And they both continue to stay in the relationship which is abusive to BOTH of them.

Raven 03-06-2005 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory
Why post this?

When I first started reading it, I thought the same thing...it's personal, not business related.....but ya know?

Unless, as Juicy stated, his life was threatened physically, there is never an excuse to hit a woman....whether she 'deserved' it or not....

We always have choices, one of which is opening the door to the house and leaving....come back another day.

And, I know all about the 'heat of the moment'..and yes, she could have left the house, too.

But, sorry...if a guy beats on a woman, no matter what, other than what I stated above....doesn't that kind of spill over into their business ethics and practices?

While I do not know this particular story, I do believe personal practices can and do affect business relationships.

LadyMischief 03-06-2005 09:57 AM

Apparently nobody else noticed that it says it's a SECOND offense? So it's not a one-time thing then?

Fletch XXX 03-06-2005 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
So you will give support to a violent drunk female but not a violent drunk male?

Neither of these two people should be supported at this time. They have both fucked up...They both know it...And they both continue to stay in the relationship which is abusive to BOTH of them.

ya know, when you are right, youre right.

i really dont know any facts, so as i said, im outta this thread.

justsexxx 03-06-2005 10:00 AM

Why are those people listed in public? Here in the Netherlands this is private imformation. Untill a judge make his final judgement. And still on public papers, there are no photo's listed.

Peaches 03-06-2005 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory
1) No one seems to know what happened.

2) It not only effects him, but her as well.

Even just the effort of having class when you are class-challenged makes the difference here.

I have to agree.

Va2k 03-06-2005 10:04 AM

Oh man, any type of abuse either from the man or women is bad :( Sounds like they both need help, but don't know them like Aaron and a few others its just sad that it was brought to a public board where they both do biz. only thing I can say and this is personal is if any of the parties involved cheats then the other one needs to make a decision stay with the cheater and cont to allow it to happen or leave. Either be swingers or find someone else. I know its freaking hard to leave I went through it, tried the swinger thing didn't like it and in the end the best thing was to move on. *shrugs* Good luck to both of you I'm not going to judge anyone on this.. You will never know what goes on till you can walk in their shoes!
Tom ( aka Va2k )

polish_aristocrat 03-06-2005 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
Why are those people listed in public? Here in the Netherlands this is private imformation. Untill a judge make his final judgement. And still on public papers, there are no photo's listed.

yeas, it also makes me wonder...

The Bootyologist 03-06-2005 10:15 AM

both of these people must be lowlifes

why bring this here angeleyes? why have cherrylula start this thread? what the fuck good could possibly come of this? thinking of startinga donation thread for yourself?

Wolfy 03-06-2005 10:16 AM

I don't know the guy, however...

It's amazing how nutted up people get when they see a police report - just because he was charged with battery doesn't mean he did it. All a woman has to do is SAY a man hit her, and he is charged. Not to mention an initial battery charge can be filed for as little as a pat on the ass.

Everybody chill and stay off the bandwagon untill the full story comes out from BOTH of the people involved. Fucking leeches...

Pipecrew 03-06-2005 10:17 AM

2nd REPORTED offense, I forget the actual statistics, but it is something like this happens 6 or 7 times before they actually report.

AaronM 03-06-2005 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew
2nd REPORTED offense, I forget the actual statistics, but it is something like this happens 6 or 7 times before they actually report.


Have you pulled her record to see how many times she's been arrested for the same sort of thing? I'm drawing a blank on Jenn's last name but when I remember it...I will run the search and post results if I find any.

By looking at the mug shot...One has to wonder if Rene took a couple of swings at himself too because he looks a little roughed up. are those brusies on his forehead?

Maybe she hit him with a frying pan? :glugglug

crockett 03-06-2005 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Have you pulled her record to see how many times she's been arrested for the same sort of thing? I'm drawing a blank on Jenn's last name but when I remember it...I will run the search and post results if I find any.

By looking at the mug shot...One has to wonder if Rene took a couple of swings at himself too because he looks a little roughed up. are those brusies on his forehead?

Maybe she hit him with a frying pan? :glugglug

maybe the cops don't like wife beaters..

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-06-2005 10:27 AM

Strange...

I kept telling Ice to come out to California as well.
Looks we were all on the same page.

Until I know more about what happened I am done with this thread, people should just have a little respect for the parties involved and leave this thread be until they got somthing to say.

There are alot of things webmasters in this biz have done...
Some of it worse and just because somthing like this happened does not mean its a point of no return for them.
Maybe a turning point, but not one that should ruin there carreer's like this thread is attempting to do.

brand0n 03-06-2005 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Have you pulled her record to see how many times she's been arrested for the same sort of thing? I'm drawing a blank on Jenn's last name but when I remember it...I will run the search and post results if I find any.

By looking at the mug shot...One has to wonder if Rene took a couple of swings at himself too because he looks a little roughed up. are those brusies on his forehead?

Maybe she hit him with a frying pan? :glugglug

maybe he was trying to defend himself? maybe she was the agressive part in all this? how come everyone wants to over look that possibility.

i know, i know, but im just saying. there are alot of variables here, and none of us really know the full truth of the matter.

MickeyG 03-06-2005 10:30 AM

I don't care what you idiots say, you never hit a woman.

Alex 03-06-2005 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickeyG
I don't care what you idiots say, you never hit a woman.


Thats such a fucking double-standard.

Yes, any man who BEATS on women deseves to be ass-raped in jail.

But when you are attacked, you have to defend yourself, and that may involve pushing her away, a shove.

But when the police come and she says he shoved me, that guy is in jail faster than you can say GFY

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-06-2005 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickeyG
I don't care what you idiots say, you never hit a woman.

Translation = I have no pimp hand.

Pipecrew 03-06-2005 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n
maybe he was trying to defend himself? maybe she was the agressive part in all this? how come everyone wants to over look that possibility.

i know, i know, but im just saying. there are alot of variables here, and none of us really know the full truth of the matter.

Great work Detective :winkwink: , but that was the point he was making.

Sharky 03-06-2005 10:42 AM

This sucks...

I hope Jen is OK

sherie 03-06-2005 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
EXACTLY!

Now...Yes, this is real.

Take note: I do not support anybody beating a woman!

With that said.....



Of course she cheated on him. He's known about it for many months...And she's probably done it more since then. BUT....That is still not a reason to beat her. In fact, he should beat himself for not accept help from a couple of us many months back when they broke up and we tried to help Rene move to Cali to get away from her.



LOL...And the truth shall set you free.

Jenn has abused this boy for a year now. The abusive alcoholic in that relationship is her and I'm willing to bet that she is just as guilty for this domestic violence as he is...Maybe even more.

I wasn't there...I didn't see shit happen....But I do know these two people a lot better than most of you. I know Jenn lies, cheats, takes a lot of meds, and chases them wil alcohol on a regulart basis.

There are two sides to every story and this one is certainly no exception.





Good. I'm happy to hear that she is not physically harmed and that everything is back to normal.

Excellet post Aaron :thumbsup You people are so quick to jump on this guy without knowing what happened. And if the other party had something to do with this post but is just as guilty then shame on you! Everyone should learn to keep their damn hands to themseleves, and lay off the fucking sauce if it causes damage to one's self! :2 cents:

Donny 03-06-2005 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickeyG
I don't care what you idiots say, you never hit a woman.

My brother and his ex-girlfriend were both drunk off their asses one night. Like angeleyes, his ex was the violent drunk type too. There was a time when I was at their house and she came after me with a knife. He pinned her to the couch and took it from her.

But on this one particular night they were fucked up and arguing. He was laying on the floor. She came after him with a knife and fully intended to drive it into his chest. He punched her in the eye and stopped her.

The next day he went to jail. He was eventually sentenced to 9 months and has a permanent record.

She was sucking his friend's cock a few weeks later.

quiet 03-06-2005 10:52 AM

damn....

Donny 03-06-2005 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet
damn....

Quiet always has some very profound replies. :)

KRL 03-06-2005 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet
damn....

I'll 2nd that. Damn . . .

quiet 03-06-2005 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips
Quiet always has some very profound replies. :)

:glugglug

Anthony 03-06-2005 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
She was probably asking for it.

Don't ever let me meet you.

KRL 03-06-2005 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
She was probably asking for it.

<P>
Don't ever let me meet you.

There are two sides to these kinds of abusive relationships that go on when they should have ended. Women are capable of horrific physical violence as much as men are. Sometimes you have to defend yourself anyway you can if you are being attacked.

Tala 03-06-2005 11:08 AM

I had no idea it was a second offense. I don't have any clue as to what goes on in their relationship.

I'm stepping back outta this. I hate to say this, but right now I have My own issues that really need My attention and I'm not sure what I could do to help Rene and/or Jen. :(

Anthony 03-06-2005 11:13 AM

KRL,

You can get up and walk the fuck out of the house. You can walk away. You can make the decision not to hit someone. Lord only knows I do it every day dealing with assholes in this world.

Variables my ass, there's no reason to beat on a woman. Period.

DarkJedi 03-06-2005 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL
Women are capable of horrific physical violence as much as men are. Sometimes you have to defend yourself anyway you can if you are being attacked.


Not to mention psychological abuse. Some women can fuck your head up pretty bad.


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