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Old 03-05-2005, 03:36 PM   #51
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I owe $77 on credit cards... I use it for gas (free golf balls), and I filled up both vehicles

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Old 03-05-2005, 03:42 PM   #52
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Everytime I fill up with gas I use a gas card. i just like being able to see how much I spend in gas each year. I pay off that card every month.
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Old 03-05-2005, 04:00 PM   #53
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To not get fucked by floating interest rate loans when they crank it up to avoid inflation, perhaps...

Although I agree, if you have enough money to buy a house outright, you'd be better off getting a fixed low rate loan and invest the money you would have spent on the purchase on investments that yeild a higher return.
Screw variable rate mortgages - we hot our home at 4.1% fixed rate with 1/4 of the price on a company fixed rate of 2.4%.
The variable rate was 3.4% - worth saving 0.7% now? Screw that!

That's the only debt we have, and only because at paying the loan back at 4.1% over 20 years, it's far wiser than paying outright.

Credit cards? Like mentioned above, since Debit Cards, credit cards are for fools - you don't have it? Don't spend it.
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Old 03-05-2005, 04:13 PM   #54
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i did have a loan, i just paid it off in one year, i dont need to pay more for my house then its already costed me.
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Old 03-05-2005, 04:23 PM   #55
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I assumed my wifes debt and its about 10k, i've reduced it by about 5k in about 3 months.
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Old 03-05-2005, 04:24 PM   #56
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Screw variable rate mortgages - we hot our home at 4.1% fixed rate with 1/4 of the price on a company fixed rate of 2.4%.
The variable rate was 3.4% - worth saving 0.7% now? Screw that!

That's the only debt we have, and only because at paying the loan back at 4.1% over 20 years, it's far wiser than paying outright.

Credit cards? Like mentioned above, since Debit Cards, credit cards are for fools - you don't have it? Don't spend it.
Yup, good plan. You should easily be able to put that cash to work for better than 4.1%, particularly if inflation kicks in and interest rates start climbing. Looks like you're set... nice rate too.

There's still practical applications for CCs... reserving hotel rooms and such. I also find it useful for a breakdown of expenses as it tends to give more detail than interac transaction statements. Debit cards don't do much good for your credit rating either. In terms of daily spending though, you're absolutely right. I never buy anything with the CC I couldn't pay for outright in cash... I just funnel it through there for the convenience or to bump my rating.
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Old 03-05-2005, 04:32 PM   #57
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all funds $CAD..

gov. student loan (mine) = $25,000
gov. student loan (wife) = $3,000
bank l.o.c. = $15,000

cc #1 = $1,500
cc #2 = $2,200
wife cc = $2,000

renting apartment, own a $12,000 car...

can anyone lend me $48,700?

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Old 03-05-2005, 04:36 PM   #58
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There's still practical applications for CCs... reserving hotel rooms and such. I also find it useful for a breakdown of expenses as it tends to give more detail than interac transaction statements.
My debit card is Visa (in france, Carte Bleue Visa is de rigor for bank debit cards), and it comes with the option to have the transaction automatically come out of your bank, or accrue the transactions and have them all come out of your a/c at the end of the month - this option is great since it's essentially a credit card where you pay off the balance each month.

True though, it adds nothing to the credit rating, but I've not had trouble getting credit, so I don't know where my rating comes from - the number of times I've refused to pay my cell phone bill in full due to disputed charges (wanker cell phone companies!), one would have thought my credit rating would be down the pan!
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Old 03-05-2005, 04:37 PM   #59
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4.1 is a great rate. Congrats.
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Old 03-05-2005, 04:42 PM   #60
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Paying in cash for everything you purchase is `cool` but not really a smart thing to do. Building credit is important, you can't say it isn't. It can't hurt to have great credit, so why avoid it. Be smart, charge stuff, but make damn sure you pay it off in full at the end of the month (that's why I only use AMEX for CC transactions, they force me to pay it, those fuckers!)
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Old 03-05-2005, 04:45 PM   #61
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4.1 is a great rate. Congrats.
Yeah, rates in continental Europe are pretty low at the moment - a friend last month got 4.0. What was a very nice add on to our mortgage, was a no-fee renegotiation clause (which some bank or other introduced 10 years ago and is now pretty much standard here). When we got our mortgage 2 years ago, I had 3 friends, whose rates were on 5-6.7% but had the same no-fee renegotiation fee. They instantly went to their banks saying they wanted a better offer since they knew such-a-bank was giving 4.1% and they all got more or less the same rate. Thousands off their overall cost instantly at no cost to them - got a few bottles of wine from them all for that bit of info
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Old 03-05-2005, 05:04 PM   #62
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Yeah, rates in continental Europe are pretty low at the moment - a friend last month got 4.0. What was a very nice add on to our mortgage, was a no-fee renegotiation clause (which some bank or other introduced 10 years ago and is now pretty much standard here). When we got our mortgage 2 years ago, I had 3 friends, whose rates were on 5-6.7% but had the same no-fee renegotiation fee. They instantly went to their banks saying they wanted a better offer since they knew such-a-bank was giving 4.1% and they all got more or less the same rate. Thousands off their overall cost instantly at no cost to them - got a few bottles of wine from them all for that bit of info
Ahhh... if only I could borrow from a european lender.

Ah well.
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Old 03-05-2005, 05:13 PM   #63
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Mine was -$3 the last statement. I overpay on my card many times because there are a lot of services that auto-charge my card and I hate debt

I cleared a $1369 credit card debt at HomeDepot recently

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Old 03-05-2005, 05:16 PM   #64
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Old 03-05-2005, 07:46 PM   #65
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zero, null, 0, whatever you call it I make more money than I can spend/invest
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Old 03-05-2005, 07:56 PM   #66
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I agree with azguy, its very inportant to build your credit.
I try to use my card, then pay it off within 30 days. Hopefully when I go to purchase my first home, I should have no problem getting a good apr.
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Old 03-05-2005, 07:57 PM   #67
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Old 03-05-2005, 08:08 PM   #68
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$0 in credit cards, but about $26K in student loans lol. Probably still owe BMG & Columbia house some $, but they'll have to find me ;) lol
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Old 03-05-2005, 10:08 PM   #69
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if I can't afford to pay cash for it, i don't get it

i have never, nor will I ever own a credit card
Don't you ever go on vacations or someplace where you need to buy stuff that costs more then the cash in your pocket?
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Old 03-05-2005, 10:10 PM   #70
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Old 03-05-2005, 10:30 PM   #71
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Old 03-05-2005, 11:08 PM   #72
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Use a CC to pay for everything possible business related. If a designer/programmer flakes, service/product doesn't get provided or is fucked up; it's almost impossible to charge back a debit card. That little lesson cost me $3500 to learn a few years ago.

Just have the discipline to pay it off at the end of the month so you avoid interest (interest's a write off anyway so it's not that big of an issue) and still maintain the level of security that comes with knowing your transactions are in some way insured.
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Old 03-05-2005, 11:15 PM   #73
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4,167.00 on our mortgage.
5,300.00 on our truck.
219.00 on one business card.
371.00 on different business card (different business).
121.00 on a personal card.
So all in all under 11,000.00 in debt. Which is considerably less than what is in savings.
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Old 03-05-2005, 11:23 PM   #74
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Old 03-07-2005, 09:19 AM   #75
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4,167.00 on our mortgage.
5,300.00 on our truck.
219.00 on one business card.
371.00 on different business card (different business).
121.00 on a personal card.
So all in all under 11,000.00 in debt. Which is considerably less than what is in savings.

I find that very odd that you owe less on your mortgage then your truck

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Liez. There are no black men in Alaberta!

Now if you'd claimed that a ukranian or romanian gypsy had done it, you might have gotten somewhere...
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Old 03-07-2005, 07:25 PM   #78
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what if you borrow 100k at 7% invest it and make 15% on it?
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Other than a car payment and a house payment I have zero debt. No credit cards what so ever.
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Old 03-08-2005, 03:40 AM   #80
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Paying in cash for everything you purchase is `cool` but not really a smart thing to do. Building credit is important, you can't say it isn't. It can't hurt to have great credit, so why avoid it. Be smart, charge stuff, but make damn sure you pay it off in full at the end of the month (that's why I only use AMEX for CC transactions, they force me to pay it, those fuckers!)
I agree. Before I was of age to have a credit card I heard people warning me never to get one because I would fall into debt. If you're responsible there is no reason not to have a credit card. Just don't buy things you can't actually afford. It's that simple. Meanwhile you build credit and that is a good thing.

I remember not planning ahead one New Years. I was stranded with a girl I wanted to fuck but I couldn't make it back home. I didn't have cash on me and no ATM's were around but I was able to get a room at a hotel using my CC. Not to mention all kinds of minor things you can pay for online and offline to avoid actual cash transactions.
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I agree. Before I was of age to have a credit card I heard people warning me never to get one because I would fall into debt. If you're responsible there is no reason not to have a credit card. Just don't buy things you can't actually afford. It's that simple. Meanwhile you build credit and that is a good thing.

I remember not planning ahead one New Years. I was stranded with a girl I wanted to fuck but I couldn't make it back home. I didn't have cash on me and no ATM's were around but I was able to get a room at a hotel using my CC. Not to mention all kinds of minor things you can pay for online and offline to avoid actual cash transactions.
Yeah, I got that too. I think there's a perception that once kids (well, teenagers) get a hold of something that approximates real money that they'll wallow in an orgy of frivilous spending. Many do, of course, which is why visa loves sending out brochures to new students. Hook 'em while they're young.

You're totally right though, used responsibly a CC is the ticket to a good credit rating and is helluva convenient to buy things online and other... uh... tasks.
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Whether it be business expenses or personal. How much debt are you in?


I am doing a survey for this new book I am reading. It recommends doing research to find out how much debt others are in, in the same industry.
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I am around 200k left for the house and a car. As for CC i use AMEX pretty much for everything so its paid off monthly. I do have a VISA but never use that for much, just here and there to exercise the credit.

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