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Old 03-04-2005, 06:23 PM   #51
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I have news for you poncho,

People are learning about this business everyday. And those people are alot smarter than your sorry ass. You are the exact type of person that will fade with time and eventually disappear completely from this business.

I've seen many of you come and go. Your adult business dream of financial independence won't last long the way your thinking. Sure you will make money but you'll never be FREE, you will always be held in the shackles of your limited thinking.

You have no staying power. You're paranoid. Sticking to one line of revenue. Not seeing the bigger picture. Will take advice, but not give it. Dont want to help other's who are coming up. That's sad.
Lol, you have no idea who you're talking too. You're a bigger idiot than I thought. You think you know it all right? Everything you know is wrong. I love it
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Old 03-04-2005, 06:29 PM   #52
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Lol, you have no idea who you're talking too. You're a bigger idiot than I thought. You think you know it all right? Everything you know is wrong. I love it
"Arguing on the internet is like taking part in the Special Olympics.

Even if you win, you're still a retard."

I wish I had the pic.

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Old 03-04-2005, 06:31 PM   #53
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He was a TOTAL N00B!! He could barely manage his way through IE.....



HEY, i resent that
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Old 03-04-2005, 06:34 PM   #54
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hahaha DH getting gallery lessons from a newbie... thats funny.
who said she's a newbie?
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Old 03-04-2005, 06:43 PM   #55
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"Arguing on the internet is like taking part in the Special Olympics.

Even if you win, you're still a retard."

I wish I had the pic.

Where you see argument, I see debate. You are confusing "good business" with "good nature". I wont get much into the difference between them because I dont have the time.

But think about this. Bill Gates never goes on computer software message boards posting tips on how to create good software. Sleazydream and Thehun never come on this board posting advice on how to run a successful TGP. Slavdogg and Arg never come on this board posting ways newbies can make money with domains. Although these people may have a good nature and want to help people, they are wise businessmen and keep their hard earned knowledge to themselves.
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Old 03-04-2005, 06:49 PM   #56
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I use dreamsubmitter.com and i throw down about 10 galleries a day...
This version 2 is going to kick ass when its complete.
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Submitting gals these days is MUCH harder.

Partner accounts are hard to come by as the TGP submitting game is becoming more and more saturated.

IMO, think outside the box, and don't go grazing where the herd is already grazing.
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Old 03-04-2005, 07:01 PM   #58
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Please show me how you do that LOL! Without buying paid spots I call bullshit ;)

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Old 03-04-2005, 07:11 PM   #59
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i did, didnt you read my post? go back to the first page and read it again.
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Old 03-04-2005, 07:26 PM   #61
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get a few different computers/laptops, buy chameleon for each machine (makes sure each machine is on a different ip though) and build 2 galleries on different domains, submit them (using chameleon), do that everyday for a month and see how much you can make.
Blah. Use GallerySubmitter.com for free and put it on autopilot. Easy money.
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v1.9 will be release in the next day or two, say good bye to passphrases.

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Old 03-04-2005, 07:35 PM   #63
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Where you see argument, I see debate. You are confusing "good business" with "good nature". I wont get much into the difference between them because I dont have the time.

But think about this. Bill Gates never goes on computer software message boards posting tips on how to create good software. Sleazydream and Thehun never come on this board posting advice on how to run a successful TGP. Slavdogg and Arg never come on this board posting ways newbies can make money with domains. Although these people may have a good nature and want to help people, they are wise businessmen and keep their hard earned knowledge to themselves.
Ok cool, we are having a debate.

Here is how I see it:

You know that hard-earned knowledge you mentioned in your post? I see that as exclusive content. Content that is in demand and that is worth something. What I am doing is using the power of the internet to unlock the value for me, my sponsors and everyone that reads my blog. The internet allows me to do that efficiently, effectively and profitably.

If that threatens you're business then so be it.

You need to deal with it because I am providing a service that is in demand. Business, whether you are selling porn or desktop computers, follows the rule of survival of the fittest. Only the strong will survive. Looks to me you are turning into a dinosaur.

I am doing what any "wise business man" does. Pleasing my customers.

My advice to you is to open your mind to the opportunities that are staring you in the face.
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Old 03-04-2005, 07:38 PM   #65
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Thats the one I use now
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There's no money to be made in galleries...time to start stunt cocking
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Old 03-04-2005, 08:32 PM   #67
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Where you see argument, I see debate. You are confusing "good business" with "good nature". I wont get much into the difference between them because I dont have the time.

But think about this. Bill Gates never goes on computer software message boards posting tips on how to create good software. Sleazydream and Thehun never come on this board posting advice on how to run a successful TGP. Slavdogg and Arg never come on this board posting ways newbies can make money with domains. Although these people may have a good nature and want to help people, they are wise businessmen and keep their hard earned knowledge to themselves.
Great example!

PornHero... Here's a question for you.. how long have you been making 17K monthly? Has it been steady since you started in this biz years ago or are did you just find a new gold mine for the first time and feel invincable at the moment? Have you EVER had traffic sources / gold mines dry up and had to move on?

You can debate this all you want about how giving away info is the right thing to do but the fact is most businessmen will disagree with you.

Your good nature idea works for YOUR business model and traffic generation setup. It doesn't work for everyone else's.

And seriously think about this for a second... you're making 17K monthly. Would you be JUST as open about it if you were making 100K+ monthly? Wouldn't a large number like that mean your one of the top players in your traffic field and therefore more competiton truly means less joins for you since you're actually getting them all ready?

Only reason I'm jumping in here is because I saw you jump in and flame soneone that disagrees with your idea. The simple FACT is most real business would disagree with you as well. Accept the fact you are doing things differently and hopefully u will continue to succeed. But don't bash people and call them paranoid because they have a different business model / philosophy than you.

There really is reason to be somewhat paranoid and critical of your business. Not only are there webmasters that want to copy you but there are AFFILIATE PROGRAMS that watch how there affiliates send traffic and then go in and copy the setup and do it themselves too. I've seen it first hand with AFFILIATE PROGRAMS trying to copy my shit.

Go ahead and keep giving away all your secrets.... hopefully in YOUR business model it won't hurt u in the end.

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Old 03-04-2005, 08:37 PM   #68
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Ok, im gonna give you all tgp noobies a fucking great free hint, its called content.....yea.....80% of ya went huh? the rest, good on ya....
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Old 03-04-2005, 08:51 PM   #70
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there are some firstcome/firstserve secrets that I am not going to give out cause that creates competition for me... but there are certain secrets I will give out
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If that threatens you're business then so be it.
That sums it up?
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Old 03-04-2005, 09:01 PM   #71
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No money in SEO either"

and no money in your wallet
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to make that much, even if it WAS possible... would require you working, busting ass 16 hours a day, every day, even WITH employees helping....

call me lazy, but i dont like to work more than 2 hours a day and i am doing much better than what we're talking about on this thread...

the key is to refine a work to income ratio that allows you to do other things in your life while working just enough to keep increasing your business each and every month...

at least in my book...

oh, and dont do something EVERYONE else is doing... keep doing something EVERYONE else is doing , and you *WILL* always find yourself working 16-18 hours a day every day to make 10-20k a month...
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oh, and i dont do TGP galleries, i was referring to business in general.
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Ok, im gonna give you all tgp noobies a fucking great free hint, its called content.....yea.....80% of ya went huh? the rest, good on ya....
Yo, are you meaning that the way to succeed with galleries is to use good content? I've always wanted to use the niche content from a paysite I'm upselling too, but that means using sponsor content. So are you saying its not great to use sponsor content even if its not available to other webmasters?
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Yo, are you meaning that the way to succeed with galleries is to use good content? I've always wanted to use the niche content from a paysite I'm upselling too, but that means using sponsor content. So are you saying its not great to use sponsor content even if its not available to other webmasters?
sponsor content = overused shite.
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theres so many sponsors out there, you have to find the ones that are non-saturated and good. its hard but its possible.
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get a few different computers/laptops, buy chameleon for each machine (makes sure each machine is on a different ip though) and build 2 galleries on different domains, submit them (using chameleon), do that everyday for a month and see how much you can make.
Dude I have 5 full time submitters in the office that do this daily. We do 10-15 galleries a day and have been doing this for quite sometime actually.

Trust me, I know what I am doing and making 20k a month from free submissions alone is TOUGH. I applaud anyone that can do it though

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Outstanding thread..not typical to see this sort of biz threads @GFY

thumbs up fellas.

As for tranza - well how long did it started? how much effort did he put into it?...etc ;)
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Great example!

PornHero... Here's a question for you.. how long have you been making 17K monthly? Has it been steady since you started in this biz years ago or are did you just find a new gold mine for the first time and feel invincable at the moment? Have you EVER had traffic sources / gold mines dry up and had to move on?

You can debate this all you want about how giving away info is the right thing to do but the fact is most businessmen will disagree with you.

Your good nature idea works for YOUR business model and traffic generation setup. It doesn't work for everyone else's.

And seriously think about this for a second... you're making 17K monthly. Would you be JUST as open about it if you were making 100K+ monthly? Wouldn't a large number like that mean your one of the top players in your traffic field and therefore more competiton truly means less joins for you since you're actually getting them all ready?

Only reason I'm jumping in here is because I saw you jump in and flame soneone that disagrees with your idea. The simple FACT is most real business would disagree with you as well. Accept the fact you are doing things differently and hopefully u will continue to succeed. But don't bash people and call them paranoid because they have a different business model / philosophy than you.

There really is reason to be somewhat paranoid and critical of your business. Not only are there webmasters that want to copy you but there are AFFILIATE PROGRAMS that watch how there affiliates send traffic and then go in and copy the setup and do it themselves too. I've seen it first hand with AFFILIATE PROGRAMS trying to copy my shit.

Go ahead and keep giving away all your secrets.... hopefully in YOUR business model it won't hurt u in the end.
Nice post, respeck

First of all let me make it clear my intention is not to flame or bash anyone. I am just trying to help you all expand your mind. I could have completely ignored this thread... read it and say to myself "look at these suckers, they have no idea"... but I didn't. I took the time to post a book that I thought was great. I look at it now and maybe it seemed like I was joking. I am sorry. I wasnt'. You all need to read the book "The Magic of Thinking Big".

It may hurt to hear what I am saying but consider it growing pains, I am trying to expand your mind. And not all of you will get it. I probably think 1 in 100 people that read this thread will actaully heed my advice and get that book. Buts that's ok.

So you are worried I am giving away "secrets". I have news for you, nothing I have said cant' be found on just about any other webmaster resource site. Now dont get me wrong, I am not giving out time-sensitive secrets like how to buy domains right after they expire or anything like that. I am just telling people general things what worked for me. Doesnt mean it'll work for them. You all need to stop the hatin' and be glad a more experienced person is taking the time to let you know what worked for him and compare to what is working for. das it. That's the extent of it.

But I am really shocked that some of you are so worried about other people. Your competition is not with other adultwebmasters, but with how smart you are in taking advantage of new opportunities. I know most people in this thread are into TGP which is cool but who has started a blog? I know you may be tired about hearing about them but fuck, there is a reason you are hearing so much about them! Wake up and smell the coffee. Blogs are great. Great search engine traffic. And they only take about 20 minutes a day to update. An its fun to update. You just write some funny bullshit, press "Save" then go on about your day. It's worth the 20 minutes. For real, I aint playin'. And even if you are into TGP you should have one. That is what I am talking about when it comes to learning and trying new things and explaning your mind. Dont force yourself into a cubbyhole then worry other people want to get into the same cubbyhole. Get it? Capiche? I hope so cuz I dont think I could make it any clearer than that. Phew!

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Helping people is great. I have helped lots of people through my carier in porn-biz and some of that people brought me great income later in a fantastical way!
I had one very honest software developer workling for me for about 3 years and as a reward i taught him a little about this biz. In 6 month he become my client and brings me about 10k$ profit per Month!
Moral: The more sucesfull players you know the better chances you have on the market.
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Wow, this thread is huge! I thought it would have 10-20 replies but it turned out to be a GREAT BUSINESS thread. Something rare in GFY these days. I'm taking notes of everything that was written and I'll work hard this full month. I'll come back with the results!
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whats the thig with posting with different domains etc ..

you dont feel it is cheating ?
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Old 03-05-2005, 09:01 AM   #90
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I would say around 10-15K$/month max. Ten sales/more a day shoodn't be that hard.
That's alot of money !
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Old 03-05-2005, 09:09 AM   #91
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hahaha DH getting gallery lessons from a newbie... thats funny.
Well DH was throwing mis information. I have seen pics of DH with guys doing twice what was asked here and he knows it.
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Old 03-05-2005, 05:35 PM   #92
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oh, and dont do something EVERYONE else is doing... keep doing something EVERYONE else is doing , and you *WILL* always find yourself working 16-18 hours a day every day to make 10-20k a month...
I just had to say Amen to that
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Old 03-05-2005, 06:01 PM   #93
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people can do 10k and above with partner accounts without actually buy spots.
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Old 03-05-2005, 06:01 PM   #94
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Dude I have 5 full time submitters in the office that do this daily. We do 10-15 galleries a day and have been doing this for quite sometime actually.

Trust me, I know what I am doing and making 20k a month from free submissions alone is TOUGH. I applaud anyone that can do it though

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Wow, seriously?

I thought you'd be able to break 20k easy, considering you are DrinkingHard after all, and have all the connections.
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