o'tay

you see why i thought otherwise

nice, now the liars must have seen the posts.. because they updated cmi:

iBill has received several calls regarding our relationship with Inteca. Hopefully this will help clarify any additional concerns that have been raised by the iBill EU sponsored merchants.

The International e.Commerce Association (Inteca) is a not for profit association. It is not linked to iBill in any way, other than some members of its executive management have prior experience with iBill, as detailed below.

The officer of Inteca who has been instrumental in setting up this escrow payment service for iBill EU clients is Chris Williams, who set up and was the Director of iBill EU when it was formed in 2002. He has no ties with the current ownership of iBill. He does work closely with the acquiring bank and the EU processor on a number of other accounts and areas of business. Chris has one area of personal interest in respect to his company?s ownership of http:// www.toccata.com which does offer a service involving the use of Inteca as an escrow agent.

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they didnt explain why all companies had the same mailing address at one time.

Okay, you busted us so we are going to put a spin on it and make it look like there is nothing wrong. If the glove doesn't fit, you have to aquit.

yep.. i also have the cell phone to the person in charge of dealing with ibill at this new restructure thing they are claiming..

The coffin must be overflowing with nails already

Instead of calling, send certified letters to every organisation there is. The power of the pen is mighty.

and one for the afternoon crowd :thumbsup

Anyone hear news on US webmasters....Seems like ibill avioded that whole topic completley during both CMI updates,Maybe because npbpdy mentioned it in this thread?

HEllOOOOO IBILLLLLL ,We know your reading this...How about atleast giving all the stressed out US webmasters the 'every intention of paying' line?

Thing must be pretty shitty if they can't even afford a dedicated ip for the sites :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

quite funny.. actually i have made contact with several people.. both at first data and the AG and the new restructuring company.. will post more when i hear more. Monday i will be talking with the man in charge over at first data.

50............

Hi Joey!! :-)

This utter spewage is totally inadequate as a *reason* for this situation.

1) Chris Williams is contaminated by iBill whether he, or iBill like it.

2) Can Mr Williams explain, since he claims to be an officer of a company known as Inteca:

a) where exactly this company is based and what jurisdiction.

b) what is the street address

c) what is the phone/fax number

d) who are the officers

e) where is the last published financial statement

3) Note the significance of a "non profit association". I'm sure that will provide a reasonable disclaimer in the event of fraud charges. It also negates several financial control laws in several countries.

4) INTECA as an "org" is a name which clearly portrays other than a $10 domain name and is, or was, a common name associated with genuine trade oranizations thru Latin America. INTECA.ORG is not such an organization but is using this to portray some assocation with others who have such a name.

"INTECA.ORG" is not any *real* organization that carries the credibility of any other international organization.

4) At this stage, this is no reason to question Christopher Williams's credentials, but there are obvious questions that need answers and some transparency required.

5) If Christopher Williams considers for one moment that he can publish a website with not even basic information, such as an address, - he deserves no credibility whatsoever.

6) If iBill even genuinely considered using intega.org/Christopher Williams as an escrow agent, - there are several serious shortcomings when the escrow agent appears unable to provide any basic credentials.

As usual with ALL iBill updates, there is a lack of the full facts and this "update" is no different.

Basically this is deception and, over several others areas, fraud - irrespective of INTECA's claimed status of being a "non profit association".

Big tax shelter in FL no???

Yes NO MORE OF THIS "WE ARE MOVING FORWARD SHIT"

FUCK THAT! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Na. KW - there is rumor on US webmaster payments...

iBill have been working with a trusted organization to act as a third party in auditing and directing the funds from US banks.

The organization is call EFTA.ORG and will be in contact shortly.

For all the stupid people here who don't know what ETFA org is - it stands for E-Commerce Financial Trust Association and the domain name has been booked thru GoDaddy today and efforts to raise the finance to accquire this domain are moving forward.

The Secretary General of ETFA has excellent banking contacts and will be resigning from her current job as cleaner at 2200 SW 10th Street, Deerfield Beach today.

Negotiations are ongoing for a good maildrop address and phone and fax facilities for The ETFA Organization.

So... hell.. relax folks!! Everything is in good hands! :-)

Hi Joey - When are are around, message me - got some good results from other places now!!

BTW... That intro from INTECA to webmasters was sent from a Compaq laptop and originated... guess... from Florida.

Not really surprising but may give a clue as to the location of this "indepedent" reputable organization which has the credibility to audit and dispense client funds - ya know - the one without a street address or phone number:-)

Hey Webby, hit me up on icq: 83032884

This is my point of view....
These guys have told to many stories period. I have been going in and cancelling and refunding ever single rebill I have with them. The only money I think US clients will see is the firstdata holdback, only because FirstData is sending that.

I dont see any reason to bother trying to figure out what they are doing, no matter what they lie. They expect everyone will not dare do anything for fear of losing rebills but the rebills you have with Ibill are useless
Go cancel and refund them all and its time for YOU to , :thumbsup move forward Awayfrom ibill

Wow sounds like the fat lady is singing.. I can't belive these guys aren't being brought up on fraud charges..

Toccata Ltd - UK
 

Name & Registered Office:
TOCCATA LIMITED
C/O BARRETTS SOLICITORS
107 GRAYS INN ROAD
LONDON
WC1X 8TZ
Company No. 03921542



Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 03/02/2000
Country of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(92)):
7220 - Software consultancy & supply

Accounting Reference Date: 28/02
Last Accounts Made Up To: 28/02/2004 (DORMANT)
Next Accounts Due: 28/12/2005
Last Return Made Up To: 03/02/2005
Next Return Due: 03/03/2006

Last Members List: 03/02/2005

Previous Names:
No previous name information has been recorded over the last 20 years.

Branch Details
There are no branches associated with this company.

Oversea Company Info
There are no Oversea Details associated with this company.

Thanks for the info UKV - There are several UK companies on the iBill/Williams "associated list" and going thru em now and checking with financial regulatory authority (FSA) and other folks.

Let's hope we ain't opened another can of worms and getting the orchestra ready for iBill's swansong with 10 trombones and a loaded percussion section ready to play Tocatta in D minor. It's patheric - but ya gotta laugh. :winkwink:

bumping once again