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DarkJedi · 03-01-2005, 01:38 PM

0o0o000o0o0h !! look at how confusing I can make this picture.

I hate the pretentious art fags that try to act all mysterious and consider themselves fans.

http://www.duke.edu/web/lit132/SoftConstruction.jpg

Botticelli = Art
Michelangelo = Art
Rembrandt = Art.

Most of Dali stuff = shit.

skillfull · 03-01-2005, 01:41 PM

i like his stuff personally ;)

JFK · 03-01-2005, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

0o0o000o0o0h !! look at how confusing I can make this picture.

I hate the pretentious art fags that try to act all mysterious and consider themselves fans.

http://www.duke.edu/web/lit132/SoftConstruction.jpg

Botticelli = Art
Michelangelo = Art
Rembrandt = Art.

Most of Dali stuff = shit.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

skillfull · 03-01-2005, 01:43 PM

ADL Colin · 03-01-2005, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

0o0o000o0o0h !! look at how confusing I can make this picture.

I hate the pretentious art fags that try to act all mysterious and consider themselves fans.

http://www.duke.edu/web/lit132/SoftConstruction.jpg

Botticelli = Art
Michelangelo = Art
Rembrandt = Art.

Most of Dali stuff = shit.

I like Dali's art. It moves me. So what art by Michelangelo do you like?

sickkittens · 03-01-2005, 01:44 PM

Not everything has to be the way you want it.

amaze · 03-01-2005, 01:53 PM

I believe what you see here is art

Sosa · 03-01-2005, 01:57 PM

i have no clue who or what he did until I seen the art.

Steve · 03-01-2005, 02:00 PM

it's called freedom of choice you fucking art Nazi

DarkJedi · 03-01-2005, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

I like Dali's art. It moves me. So what art by Michelangelo do you like?

I consider Sistine Chapel frescoes a true work of art.

Aslo his architectural works, like Laurentian Library.

Rorschach · 03-01-2005, 02:08 PM

you obviously haven't done enough acid

dready · 03-01-2005, 02:31 PM

Dude wtf are you talking about?

I saw this one in Fredricton, New Brunswick... It's like 13.5' tall and 10' wide and made one hell of an impression on me. Seeing it this size does it absolutely no justice. It takes like an hour to find all the little details in this painting... possibly years.

Santiago El Grande

Deepai · 03-01-2005, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve

it's called freedom of choice you fucking art Nazi

word.......

Sarah_Jayne · 03-01-2005, 02:39 PM

certainly looks like art to me ..but then I love Keith Harring

Minte · 03-01-2005, 02:42 PM

Spend some time with his work...
Dali was a true genius

GoodStuff · 03-01-2005, 03:39 PM

Dali's "Metamorphysis of the Narcissus" is my favorite painting ever!

Jim_Gunn · 03-01-2005, 05:33 PM

I have the Explosion of Time on my bedroom wall.

SaintElGrouch · 03-01-2005, 05:36 PM

I've got a couple Dali prints also. I'd have to say that i'm partial to Escher however.

RobD · 03-01-2005, 05:41 PM

Dali rocks all the other stuff suck

toddler · 03-01-2005, 05:42 PM

DJ: i have a hard time taking ANYTHING you say seriously. You are the last person I'd look to for art advice.

Kevsh · 03-01-2005, 05:49 PM

Confusing to you or not, he had talent that can't be taught. I for one think people which such talent were extremely fortunate.

Liking or appreciating art doesn't make you gay btw ... just like bashing art lovers doesn't make you more manly or cool

tony286 · 03-01-2005, 06:02 PM

Go to his museum in FL its really something to see

Evil Chris · 03-01-2005, 06:04 PM

Whoever drew Donald Duck is an art GOD!

NickPapageorgio · 03-01-2005, 06:04 PM

I guess don't get you started on picasso eh?

Dali is my favorite artist. You can see alot of his impression in Robert Williams stuff too, which I also love.

robfantasy · 03-01-2005, 06:06 PM

dali and picasso are my favorites .. i love abstract art

Methodcash Rick · 03-01-2005, 06:07 PM

I just want a pound or two of whatever Dali was on, when he was painting..

ADL Colin · 03-02-2005, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

I consider Sistine Chapel frescoes a true work of art.

Post some that you really like.

budz · 03-02-2005, 03:33 AM

DOMINIQUE APPIA ~ ENTER THE MEMORY = omfg.

http://www.appia-d.ch/

Voodoo · 03-02-2005, 03:34 AM

H.R. Giger

GFED · 03-02-2005, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB-Rick

I just want a pound or two of whatever Dali was on, when he was painting..

thats a lot of acid

budz · 03-02-2005, 03:40 AM

m.c escher

quantum-x · 03-02-2005, 03:48 AM

http://tiles.ice.org does dali

quantum-x · 03-02-2005, 03:53 AM

www.ice.org does escher

DarkJedi · 03-02-2005, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintElGrouch

I've got a couple Dali prints also. I'd have to say that i'm partial to Escher however.

Escher isn't an artist. More like an Illustrator.
Basically, It's the same reason that Dali and Norman Rockwell aren't artists. They may technically be proficient and clever with their ideas, but there is no real emotion or truth behind their paintings.

The Surrealists had but one law: the purpose of surrealism was to create outrage and shock in the minds of the bourgeousie. No atrocity, not enven child rape could get you kicked out of the group. The only thing that could get you kicked out was to back down and apologize, to lose face.

In the late thirties, Dali and Gala, who had fled to America went to Peggy Guggenheim's costume party in New York. They went with Dali dressed as Bruno Hauptman and Gala dressed as the Lindbergh baby complete with bloody noose around her neck. A great scandal ensued, so great they were threatened with deportation back to Europe, where Dali would have been in danger as a decadent artist.

They backed down. The apologized. They were kicked out of the Surrealists. After that Dali, under the direction of Gala quickly turned to the pursuit of big American collector's cheques in the Peggy Guggenheim circle.

abyss_al · 03-02-2005, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

I consider Sistine Chapel frescoes a true work of art.

Aslo his architectural works, like Laurentian Library.

Built between 1475 and 1483, in the time of Pope Sixtus IV della Rovere, the Sistine Chapel has originally served as Palatine Chapel. The chapel is rectangular in shape and measures 40.93 meters long by 13.41 meters wide, i.e. the exact dimensions of the Temple of Solomon, as given in the Old Testament. It is 20.70 meters high and is roofed by a flattened barrel vault, with little side vaults over the centered windows.
The architectural plans were made by Baccio Pontelli and the construction work was supervised by Giovannino de' Dolci. The first Mass in the Sistine Chapel was celebrated on August 9, 1483.
The wall paintings were executed by Pietro Perugino, Sandro Botticelli, Domenico Ghirlandaio, Cosimo Rosselli, Luca Signorelli and their respective workshops, which included Pinturicchio, Piero di Cosimo and Bartolomeo della Gatta.
Michelangelo Buonarroti was commissioned by Pope Julius II della Rovere in 1508 to repaint the ceiling; the work was completed between 1508 and 1512. He painted the Last Judgement over the altar, between 1535 and 1541, being commissioned by Pope Paul III Farnese.
We include a master plan of the Chapel which helps locate each painting by assigning an alphanumeric code.

http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sistine/0-Tour.html

art is a purely subjective combination of ideas, what appeals to one may not appeal to another...go do some research and broaden your horizons... here is a good site to learn from, one of my favorites: http://www.artchive.com/

edit:

escher and dali put more intelligence and meaning into a single woodcut and brush stroke than we will ever be able to comprehend, and that is being generous

BaldBastard · 03-02-2005, 04:38 AM

I have a Dali hanging in my lounge, and the fact that it has trippled in price in the past 5 years makes me like him a lot ;p

titmowse · 03-02-2005, 04:40 AM

what is art?

ADL Colin · 03-02-2005, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

After that Dali, under the direction of Gala quickly turned to the pursuit of big American collector's cheques in the Peggy Guggenheim circle.

Yet you admire Michelangelo who was in Pope Julian?s circle. He didn?t even want the job of painting the Sistine Chapel. He felt forced into it by the pope. Not exactly a labor of love. And of course, it was a commissioned work. Paid for by the Church.

Making a living is not incompatible with great art.

DarkJedi · 03-02-2005, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

Making a living is not incompatible with great art.

Dali was a money obsessed anal-fixated freak.
He was signing blank sheets of lithographic paper, for which he was paid $10 per sheet. (He could reputedly sign 1,000 in an hour.)

CET · 03-02-2005, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

0o0o000o0o0h !! look at how confusing I can make this picture.

I hate the pretentious art fags that try to act all mysterious and consider themselves fans.

http://www.duke.edu/web/lit132/SoftConstruction.jpg

Botticelli = Art
Michelangelo = Art
Rembrandt = Art.

Most of Dali stuff = shit.

Let's see you paint something the way Dali did. It may be weird, but it obviously took time, thought and talent. So, go ahead and try to make a Dali forgery, I dare you.

ADL Colin · 03-02-2005, 05:01 AM

Dark Jedi,

So you think that the reason a work of art is created matters in determining whether it is good or not?

$5 submissions · 03-02-2005, 05:03 AM

If you think Dali's stuff is shit, you must definitely hate Rothko, Motherwell, Magritte, and Mondrian.

$5 submissions · 03-02-2005, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

Yet you admire Michelangelo who was in Pope Julian?s circle. He didn?t even want the job of painting the Sistine Chapel. He felt forced into it by the pope. Not exactly a labor of love. And of course, it was a commissioned work. Paid for by the Church.

Making a living is not incompatible with great art.

I had the great pleasure of seeing Michaelangelo's work at the Sistine Chapel... it is definitely an emotional overload.

CET · 03-02-2005, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Escher isn't an artist. More like an Illustrator.
Basically, It's the same reason that Dali and Norman Rockwell aren't artists. They may technically be proficient and clever with their ideas, but there is no real emotion or truth behind their paintings.

The Surrealists had but one law: the purpose of surrealism was to create outrage and shock in the minds of the bourgeousie. No atrocity, not enven child rape could get you kicked out of the group. The only thing that could get you kicked out was to back down and apologize, to lose face.

In the late thirties, Dali and Gala, who had fled to America went to Peggy Guggenheim's costume party in New York. They went with Dali dressed as Bruno Hauptman and Gala dressed as the Lindbergh baby complete with bloody noose around her neck. A great scandal ensued, so great they were threatened with deportation back to Europe, where Dali would have been in danger as a decadent artist.

They backed down. The apologized. They were kicked out of the Surrealists. After that Dali, under the direction of Gala quickly turned to the pursuit of big American collector's cheques in the Peggy Guggenheim circle.

No True Scotsman fallacy.

The point of art is to envoke emotion. If Dali's work envokes emotion within you, then he succeeded.

It is the small minded who do not understand art or appreciate it. There is art all around you, every day, but I'm willing to bet you don't see almost any of it, because you have such a narrow view of art that only people like Michaelangelo fit into it.

Keep posting, I could use more comedy in my mornings.

DarkJedi · 03-02-2005, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

Dark Jedi,

So you think that the reason a work of art is created matters in determining whether it is good or not?

No.

ADL Colin · 03-02-2005, 05:06 AM

Is this art? I dunno but it makes me money.

ADL Colin · 03-02-2005, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

No.

So why are you taking all this time to belittle Dali based on his pursuit of income his sexual preferences and what circles he ran in?

CET · 03-02-2005, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

Making a living is not incompatible with great art.

Why not? Just because one is being paid for it doesn't make it any more or less good. I've seen plenty of work done by "starving artists" that sucks ass. Stuff that is completely uninspired, unevoking, unthoughful and talentless. I've also seen amazing inspired, evoking, thoughful and highly talented pieces from professionals. It is possible to get paid, but still create art for the right reasons. It is when an artist loses sight of those reasons that his art deteriorates.

ADL Colin · 03-02-2005, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

I had the great pleasure of seeing Michaelangelo's work at the Sistine Chapel... it is definitely an emotional overload.

That's awesome. My brother just saw it last year. It's on my list of across-the-pond trips after Greece and Egypt. I hope I feel the same way as you.

abyss_al · 03-02-2005, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by abyss_al

Built between 1475 and 1483, in the time of Pope Sixtus IV della Rovere, the Sistine Chapel has originally served as Palatine Chapel. The chapel is rectangular in shape and measures 40.93 meters long by 13.41 meters wide, i.e. the exact dimensions of the Temple of Solomon, as given in the Old Testament. It is 20.70 meters high and is roofed by a flattened barrel vault, with little side vaults over the centered windows.
The architectural plans were made by Baccio Pontelli and the construction work was supervised by Giovannino de' Dolci. The first Mass in the Sistine Chapel was celebrated on August 9, 1483.
The wall paintings were executed by Pietro Perugino, Sandro Botticelli, Domenico Ghirlandaio, Cosimo Rosselli, Luca Signorelli and their respective workshops, which included Pinturicchio, Piero di Cosimo and Bartolomeo della Gatta.
Michelangelo Buonarroti was commissioned by Pope Julius II della Rovere in 1508 to repaint the ceiling; the work was completed between 1508 and 1512. He painted the Last Judgement over the altar, between 1535 and 1541, being commissioned by Pope Paul III Farnese.
We include a master plan of the Chapel which helps locate each painting by assigning an alphanumeric code.

http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sistine/0-Tour.html

art is a purely subjective combination of ideas, what appeals to one may not appeal to another...go do some research and broaden your horizons... here is a good site to learn from, one of my favorites: http://www.artchive.com/

edit:

escher and dali put more intelligence and meaning into a single woodcut and brush stroke than we will ever be able to comprehend, and that is being generous

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