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i agree, more people need to take this biz more seriously
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His post was timely as it closely followed our Purecash announcement. It created a thread with misinformation, something we (I) strive not to allow to happen. Sure, it is "ok" to start a thread, but sometimes paying attention to the surrounding environment benefits everyone. If a program makes a change on Monday, you go make a thread about the context of it on Tuesday without naming the company, it is logical to assume what will unfold. |
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Regardless of the intention, the timing was unfortunate at best. I don't think that Raffi meant to misalign anyone, and I don't really give a shit if he spams or not, hell everyone does at some point. I can also see very easily how it could have been taken as a stab at Purecash, especially if someone didn't realize who they were talking about. Mutt's been around since before I started and has definite opinions on things. He's not afraid to speak his mind either, and since he's got a rather ascerbic wit, he sometimes freaks people out a bit. I like his directness, personally, even when the barbs have sometimes been aimed at me ;) |
Oh wow...i just realized that some of you think i posted this thread because of Purecash???? Wow...i dont know Purecash and i havent spoken with Wegcash and didnt know they are some how related or were?
I honestly and truthfully did not start this thread because of Purecash...i honestly never knew until this thread that they closed? I wanted to start this thread just to have overall discussion about why affiliate can close doors and help friends and everyone who run affiliate programs to get some ideas and see the light on things.... |
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I don't think so and I hope not either because you guys are great people. |
Fuck, didnt even know Stupid cash was closed. I remember them cos of that stupid ugly dude that was on the banners, LOL, bummer.
I think most sponsors close down because they either make some good cash and dont bother continuing to work at their business, or they take the wrong road with paying too much for affiliates and they break bank because of this. Anyone have good experience and want to make a small affiliate program for me? |
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Be careful what and who you say it to, that is some friendly advice from me to you. I don?t generally like calling people names especially those who I have not met and don?t know personally. I would assume you don?t go to shows ever, because if you did you would get to meet and teach who these people you are that you are trying to bash. You seem to be such an expert in who is who and programs, maybe you can meet us down in Phoenix and teach us something huh? Been to almost every show this year and I don?t think I have ever met you, I have only seen what you throw up onto this board with your always negative shitty posts. Take a look at this Mutt-boy the programs that XXXJay posts who convert best for him out of all the programs in the world, not because they skin boards, or buy banners or suck dicks?just cause the sites converts. You will see Top Bucks, Platinum Bucks and Smashbucks. http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/links/webmasters.html :321GFY |
Purecash really isnt closing the name purecash is but they have the other programs if I read correctly. I dont understand how programs work , to pay so much for a signup and have expenses and make a profit. I cant see it , something is missing.
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BUMP for Raffi :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Looks like a misunderstanding with threads. I'm so sure that Raffi just posted
this Biz thread at the wrong time. :2 cents: I've been seeing many programs sold, shut down, and just a response of moving on to other ventures. So Raffi's topic might be valid. One of the main reasons his company name was mention with other bigger companies was for the fact that he's here to stay and they are in the same boat as his company.. for the long haul Peace out all :pimp |
I didn't think you directed this at purecash, I took it for what you posted about, just a discussion on why programs close - not about anyone in general.
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come on everyone, lets stick to the topic.... interesting what imafuckingaussie said : " I think most sponsors close down because they either make some good cash and dont bother continuing to work at their business, or they take the wrong road with paying too much for affiliates and they break bank because of this." |
There is no reason to re-think something that works for me - I have been using my merchant account since 1998 or 99, cant remember, but personally I trust my merchant bank over third party billing services any day, you may not and thats fine. This is just my personal opinion and not ment to say third party is bad, I just do not trust using them. I also like the total control I have over my money and how I process.
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I agree back on topic, its kinda interesting to see what people think reasons are behind programs shutting down.
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Of course he didnt direct this at Purecash or anyone in particular...Everyone lighten the fuck up. :1orglaugh |
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like it is. Yo let's do lunch man all of us :thumbsup Hit me up when your around |
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Lets go eat Pho ! Its addicting! |
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Hey also remember most people on this board and in general are socialy retarded and never had a job outside sitting behind there computer screen, and lack the very important skills with it comes down to doing real biz. Next time at the upcoming show, just stand back and watch :1orglaugh Being direct is the only way, right? Dont like to beat around the bush...lol |
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Your on! Make sure Mike comes :thumbsup |
And who ever else you want to invite.. make it a happy hour type of thing
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Also thank you Nadar! 17 years in the nightclub biz dealing with over 75 club owners from the Sunset Strip to Beverly Hills will make it so you can "cut to the chase" dealing with people one on one is my favorite part or any biz, good or bad. I of course would rather it be good than bad, but sometimes you just dont have control over some of that. :thumbsup |
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What's so funny is Raffis thread a few days ago bashing 50/50 revshare programs. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=435080 |
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ah..now that all the thugs and gangsters have threatened everyone with whatever they were implying,i have something to say
Rafi..can you tell us the story when you fell into the sewage ditch? and hid in the bushes so no one would see you. love you man..lol |
great fucking post
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Nice thread :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Anyway for most people revshare with good programs (like NDC in my sig :winkwink: ) is the way to go long term. Most people think its all fine and easy but many expenses and trouble are in the path of those willing to have solid programs :2 cents: |
I think protect from spammers or testing program, I add affil programm after 4 month testing.......
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My impression of the ones that fail lead to one general observation:
Many RELY TOO MUCH and TOO EARLY on affiliate traffic to make their program succeed. The programs with longevity (in the case of programs that started fairly recently) are ones formed by guys who have their own independent sources of traffic. |
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Pho sounds good guys
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I assure you, I am far from socially retarded. In fact, I have a bit of class as I would never do anything like that. Shall we call it social awareness? When Raffi was banned from another board, I came on and stated that I liked the guy and he should not be banned. If you want to label me "retarded" for interpretting situations poorly, use that as fuel. Rest assured, I am probably a lot more intelligent then some may assume. |
Name some programs that closed down, none i worked with or even know about did.
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You must be kidding? If you read the way I posted what I said and how I said it: "most people on this board " I dont think you fall into the "most people" catagory do you? You must agree with me there are those out there that fit that discription for sure! Look forward to seeing you in Phoenix!!!! :pimp |
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