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Old 02-27-2005, 02:53 PM   #1
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Egypt Is Going To a Democracy

Nice! Mubarek is agreeing to free democratic elections for Egypt.

The dominos are falling.

And Syria gave up Saddam's half brother and 29 high level cronies who've been financing the insurgents from just across the Iraqi border.
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Old 02-27-2005, 02:55 PM   #2
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some cultures are not prepared for democracy. its gonna be interesting seeing how this unfolds
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Old 02-27-2005, 03:00 PM   #3
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Old 02-27-2005, 03:01 PM   #4
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Cool, maybe I will be able to visit Egypt within this lifetime.
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Old 02-27-2005, 03:01 PM   #5
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It's just a ploy so we loosen up a bit. Neither Syria or Egypt are our friends.
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Old 02-27-2005, 03:16 PM   #6
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Saddam was "elected" too - don't get too excited about Egypt's "free elections" yet.
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Old 02-27-2005, 03:20 PM   #7
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At the very least it's a step in the right direction
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Old 02-27-2005, 03:24 PM   #8
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wow now this is really good news.
Lets hope democracy will not bring fanatics to the government and all will be goody..
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Old 02-27-2005, 03:59 PM   #9
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this means more violence
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Old 02-27-2005, 04:18 PM   #10
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Nice! Mubarek is agreeing to free democratic elections for Egypt.

The dominos are falling.

And Syria gave up Saddam's half brother and 29 high level cronies who've been financing the insurgents from just across the Iraqi border.
Even though I hate the Bush diplomacy, it's a fact that pushing over one domino will cause the others to fall. Egypt wasn't a hard core dictatorship so I would think they were a likely candidate for this change.

Now the one we would have to worry about is Saudi Arabia.. lol I'm not so sure we would want them having a democracy, we are probably better off having their royal family control things because at least they like our money..

btw..Was good meeting you last night. It's good to finally get out and meet some of the people I see on the boards. Much nicer to put a face to the person's nick.
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Old 02-27-2005, 04:27 PM   #11
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Hopefully they will not assassinate him as they did Sadat..
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Old 02-27-2005, 04:40 PM   #12
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I read about this too, and I was struck by two thoughts:

- This may be an election that's about as valid as one held in China. Mubarak talks a good game about 'opening the field', but it comes right on the heels of a political faux pas, that of the arrest of a popular politcal rival and election reformist. Rice was supposed to go to Cairo for a G8 meeting and cancelled, ostensibly, because of this act. This could be little more than short term mollifying words... time will tell.

- Just because there's an election doesn't mean you always get who you want elected. There's a burgeoning hardline islamic element that has been kept surpressed on mubarek's regime...

For now, it's empty words, and a potentially dangerous game to be played in one of the few relatively stable secular states in the north african / near east region.
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Old 02-27-2005, 04:55 PM   #13
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The Koran is a cookbook for terror... The Old Testiment is the same thing...

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Old 02-27-2005, 05:07 PM   #14
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some cultures are not prepared for democracy. its gonna be interesting seeing how this unfolds

Its a long term goal. Like you, I expect some big bumps along the road, but I think is the right road.
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Old 02-27-2005, 06:11 PM   #15
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the egyptian system was more democratic than others but still not great. I was in their country during an election year a a few years ago. Everywhere you went there were posters and pictures of Mubarek. It was explained to me that the people vote if they want to keep Mubarek or not. If 51% say they want to keep him, there is no election. If less than 51% want to keep him there can be an election. The problem is to run against him you had to have 1/3rd of thier parliment ( or whatever they call thier congress ) to "endorse " you so a total of 3 people could, technically run, Mubarek and two others but getting that endorsement it pretty tricky and in many cases nearly impossible.

hopefully they will have a more free type election, the egyption people, as I experinced them, are good people that like amercians and have a good outlook towards the future.
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Old 02-27-2005, 06:16 PM   #16
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hahaha , nice one KRL
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Old 02-27-2005, 06:19 PM   #17
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They have some really messed up ideas there any way. And I think that this is like Castro holding a free election.
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Old 02-27-2005, 06:22 PM   #18
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They have some really messed up ideas there any way. And I think that this is like Castro holding a free election.
very true...
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Old 02-27-2005, 06:52 PM   #19
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That is an interesting fact.
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