Adultplayersclub free trials are not free? - GoFuckYourself.com

Otter · 02-17-2005, 05:48 PM

why tell webmasters you get $25 per free trial when you actually get $15 for ach checking free joins and $25 for $1 credit card joins. Why not tell the truth and say Just say $ 25 per $1 trial joins.

simple simon · 02-17-2005, 05:49 PM

did they "takeover" yet???

Alex · 02-17-2005, 05:50 PM

How else are you gonna pay for a $75k skin

Furious_Male · 02-17-2005, 05:51 PM

I noticed that after I signed up yesterday. Free trial is 3 day Check only or $1 for 2 day CC. I was going to send an email asking about that tomorrow before I run any campaigns for them.

Everything else looks real good with them.

polish_aristocrat · 02-17-2005, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kaliboy2g

How else are you gonna pay for a $75k skin

skins are cheaper than that

xxxdesign-net · 02-17-2005, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kaliboy2g

How else are you gonna pay for a $75k skin

isnt it like $35K ..?

Alex · 02-17-2005, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

skins are cheaper than that

40k minimum and top banner spots for two months before the skin

Thats a quite a lot of money.

Otter · 02-17-2005, 06:01 PM

Let us know what the reply is if you get one. I was definitely excited about sending them traffic before I realized the deal.

polish_aristocrat · 02-17-2005, 06:03 PM

I could tell you the current price of the skin, but I am not sure if I am allowed to do that.

S.A.K. · 02-17-2005, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter

why tell webmasters you get $25 per free trial when you actually get $15 for ach checking free joins and $25 for $1 credit card joins. Why not tell the truth and say Just say $ 25 per $1 trial joins.

If customer takes the free check option on our free trial codes YOU get $25. Not $15. You get $25 regardless what option he takes on the free trial join forms. Hope this clears it up!

Otter · 02-17-2005, 06:12 PM

Excuse my ignorance but ,What is a $75k skin?

tungsten · 02-17-2005, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter

Excuse my ignorance but ,What is a $75k skin?

im guessing gfy skin but i may be wrong

Otter · 02-17-2005, 06:24 PM

I am only stating what your terms are. They say on ach check joins the webmaster rec $15 not $25. And the credit card option is $1 join Not Free.

S.A.K. · 02-17-2005, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter

I am only stating what your terms are. They say on ach check joins the webmaster rec $15 not $25. And the credit card option is $1 join Not Free.

Yeah that is $15 per check join on regular trial joins through our $35 per signup linking codes. We pay $25 per free check join on the free trial link codes as I stated above!

Otter · 02-17-2005, 06:40 PM

Ok that clears up the check joins thanks, but the credit card joins are $1 joins right?

S.A.K. · 02-17-2005, 06:42 PM

That is correct. The free trial is the check join option. From our tests an equal amount take the check as cc join. Overall ratios with this billing model create 25-50% more revenue than sending to general paid trial sites. Give it a try! Converting very well on our beta testing and for the webmasters already sending traffic!

slapass · 02-17-2005, 06:59 PM

Are you for real? the free trial is a $1? Shit that explains something.

S.A.K. · 02-17-2005, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Are you for real? the free trial is a $1? Shit that explains something.

Send traffic and test it. We will put our free trials against any other exclusive sites paid trials. Give it a try!

FunForOne · 02-17-2005, 07:12 PM

I"m sending to the free trials. but it makes sense, a lot of people might pay by check.

I"m going to have to study this a little more.

Furious_Male · 02-17-2005, 07:20 PM

Its different without a doubt but worth a shot as long as they are paying the $25.

Most everyone has a checking account and if not they shouldn't be turned off by the $1 even if you do run your creatives stating "free".

S.A.K. · 02-17-2005, 07:35 PM

Let me clear some things up and try to explain some things first off. For those that dont think this is a free trial you are wrong. I have sent more free trials than 99.9% of this board and I have never once put the text free credit card trial. I have always promoted them as a free trial. i dont know why some of you assume that it has to be a free cc trial to be a free trial. So far over half the people are taking the free check trial. i guess most of you dont think people still use checks but they do its just that on most sites that option is hidden or not even offered at all.
The reason i came up with this model is that in dealing with traffic I have seen that in most cases free trials make much more than paid trials. So I wanted to come up with a way to offer free trials on exclusive/reality sites since I dont think it is done anywhere else in the industry (although if I am wrong I am sure I will be corrected by everyone here and if I am wrong I am sorry) Since most tgp and mgp are filled with exclusive sites I thought hey since the surfers are looking for free content lets give them a free trial. It seems to make sense to me. Instead of trying to find flaws in this why dont you just give it a try. You might be surprised at the results. Like i said these joins are making 25 - 50% more than our paid trials. End of rant.

S.A.K. · 02-17-2005, 07:40 PM

Oh and one other thing for those that want to know why the credit card offer is not free is simple. As most people know free trial cc joins lead to big chargeback troubles which in turn put companies out of business and Adult Players Club is not here for the short term to make the short term buck. As anyone who knows me or the other people in the company know that we are some of the most solid people in this biz and we want to keep it that way.

Furious_Male · 02-25-2005, 09:33 AM

Ok I just wanted to give this a bump and share some of my test stats since there was some discussion.

I ran a campaign for "All Access Reality" using the new Free Trial version. Using General search terms, and stating the trial was free.

Over the past 2.5 days my results are as follows.

Totals 3621(Raw) 2584(Unique) 9(Sales) 221.00 1:287

+32% ROI not counting the $50 bonus for sending 5 free joins this period.

Not bad.. Its important to note this was just a test. It will be neat to see what happens as the traffic is ramped up.

Sign Up and try for yourself.

Trax · 02-25-2005, 09:37 AM

When promoting it as a free trial this does INDEED implement that it is a free credit card trial...

Furious_Male · 02-25-2005, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Trax

When promoting it as a free trial this does INDEED implement that it is a free credit card trial...

Why? A free trial is a free trial. Just because its a free check trial doesn't change that.

I advertised it as a free trial and nothing more. Even running the campaign like that I still received CC sign ups as well. $1 for 2 days. I don't think the surfer minded its a lousy buck and I presented the product right. He just opted to cough up a buck with his credit card over using his checking account.

Its all about being able to sell.

02-17-2005, 05:48 PM	#1
Otter Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 224	Adultplayersclub free trials are not free? why tell webmasters you get $25 per free trial when you actually get $15 for ach checking free joins and $25 for $1 credit card joins. Why not tell the truth and say Just say $ 25 per $1 trial joins.

02-17-2005, 05:50 PM	#3
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	How else are you gonna pay for a $75k skin __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who?

02-17-2005, 05:51 PM	#4
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,881	I noticed that after I signed up yesterday. Free trial is 3 day Check only or $1 for 2 day CC. I was going to send an email asking about that tomorrow before I run any campaigns for them. Everything else looks real good with them. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

02-17-2005, 06:03 PM	#9
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	I could tell you the current price of the skin, but I am not sure if I am allowed to do that. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

02-17-2005, 07:20 PM	#20
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,881	Its different without a doubt but worth a shot as long as they are paying the $25. Most everyone has a checking account and if not they shouldn't be turned off by the $1 even if you do run your creatives stating "free". __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

02-17-2005, 05:49 PM	#2
simple simon Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 854	did they "takeover" yet???

02-17-2005, 06:01 PM	#8
Otter Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 224	Let us know what the reply is if you get one. I was definitely excited about sending them traffic before I realized the deal.

02-17-2005, 06:12 PM	#11
Otter Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 224	Excuse my ignorance but ,What is a $75k skin?

02-17-2005, 06:24 PM	#13
Otter Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 224	I am only stating what your terms are. They say on ach check joins the webmaster rec $15 not $25. And the credit card option is $1 join Not Free.

02-17-2005, 06:40 PM	#15
Otter Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 224	Ok that clears up the check joins thanks, but the credit card joins are $1 joins right?

02-17-2005, 06:42 PM	#16
S.A.K. Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South Fla Posts: 619	That is correct. The free trial is the check join option. From our tests an equal amount take the check as cc join. Overall ratios with this billing model create 25-50% more revenue than sending to general paid trial sites. Give it a try! Converting very well on our beta testing and for the webmasters already sending traffic!

02-17-2005, 06:59 PM	#17
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Are you for real? the free trial is a $1? Shit that explains something.

02-17-2005, 07:12 PM	#19
FunForOne Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 8,704	I"m sending to the free trials. but it makes sense, a lot of people might pay by check. I"m going to have to study this a little more.

02-17-2005, 07:35 PM	#21
S.A.K. Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South Fla Posts: 619	Let me clear some things up and try to explain some things first off. For those that dont think this is a free trial you are wrong. I have sent more free trials than 99.9% of this board and I have never once put the text free credit card trial. I have always promoted them as a free trial. i dont know why some of you assume that it has to be a free cc trial to be a free trial. So far over half the people are taking the free check trial. i guess most of you dont think people still use checks but they do its just that on most sites that option is hidden or not even offered at all. The reason i came up with this model is that in dealing with traffic I have seen that in most cases free trials make much more than paid trials. So I wanted to come up with a way to offer free trials on exclusive/reality sites since I dont think it is done anywhere else in the industry (although if I am wrong I am sure I will be corrected by everyone here and if I am wrong I am sorry) Since most tgp and mgp are filled with exclusive sites I thought hey since the surfers are looking for free content lets give them a free trial. It seems to make sense to me. Instead of trying to find flaws in this why dont you just give it a try. You might be surprised at the results. Like i said these joins are making 25 - 50% more than our paid trials. End of rant.

02-17-2005, 07:40 PM	#22
S.A.K. Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South Fla Posts: 619	Oh and one other thing for those that want to know why the credit card offer is not free is simple. As most people know free trial cc joins lead to big chargeback troubles which in turn put companies out of business and Adult Players Club is not here for the short term to make the short term buck. As anyone who knows me or the other people in the company know that we are some of the most solid people in this biz and we want to keep it that way.

02-25-2005, 09:33 AM	#23
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,881	Ok I just wanted to give this a bump and share some of my test stats since there was some discussion. I ran a campaign for "All Access Reality" using the new Free Trial version. Using General search terms, and stating the trial was free. Over the past 2.5 days my results are as follows. Totals 3621(Raw) 2584(Unique) 9(Sales) 221.00 1:287 +32% ROI not counting the $50 bonus for sending 5 free joins this period. Not bad.. Its important to note this was just a test. It will be neat to see what happens as the traffic is ramped up. Sign Up and try for yourself. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

02-25-2005, 09:37 AM	#24
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	When promoting it as a free trial this does INDEED implement that it is a free credit card trial...