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Old 02-25-2005, 07:51 AM   #51
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Which is exactly why many countries are against it. They fear it could trigger a new arms race.

satellites designed to kill other satellites, etc.
These satellites already exist. In fact, this technology would be essential to any major conflict, since if you take out the other side's satellites you in effect make them blind. So the first strike of any war between technologicaly advanced countries would be in space.
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Who is going to shoot a missile at America anyway? Greenland???
And lets say for arguments sake that it would be China/N-Korea/Iran, there would still be time to have a cup of coffee before maning a fighter jet to meet it half way and shoot it down.

This is all about giving big contracts to the right people...
you think a jet is going to shoot down an ICBM? it's that easy? they have been working for 20 plus years to get to the point that one missile could sometimes hit another missile and equate it to shooting a bullet in mid flight with another bullet. any missile defense system is not even going to be close to 100% effective with todays technology.
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if there is any missle heading towards us, Im sure the odds are in canada's favor its passing over us and heading directly to washingtons capital. No one is going to fire on us - we arent bullies nor push our weight around, simply put Canada is not a thread to anyone - but we will be a target if USA gets to put its missles here on our soil.

Face it - Canada doesnt want to have anything much to do with Bush's War outside of helping the casualties out and waiting for the 4 year term to end the dictatorship.

good luck to our targets to the south
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if there is any missle heading towards us, Im sure the odds are in canada's favor its passing over us and heading directly to washingtons capital. No one is going to fire on us - we arent bullies nor push our weight around, simply put Canada is not a thread to anyone - but we will be a target if USA gets to put its missles here on our soil.

Face it - Canada doesnt want to have anything much to do with Bush's War outside of helping the casualties out and waiting for the 4 year term to end the dictatorship.

good luck to our targets to the south

We have liberals like you in America, we just dont vote them into office.


How about we take a few steps further and distance canada from the U.S.

Lets stop trading. Lets put Canada on the Cuban economic development plan. Why dont we tell the world that the U.S. and Canada no longer work together and our hated military will not be used to assist Canada in any national affairs.


Someone other than a canadian would be running your country in less than 10 years.
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WASHINGTON, Feb. 24 (Xinhuanet) -- The US military conducted a missile defense flight on Thursday, with an interceptor missile successfully intercepting and destroying a short-range target missile, the Pentagon announced.

The target missile was launched from US Navy's Pacific Missile Range Facility at Barking Sands, Kauai, and the interceptor missile, a Standard Missile 3, was launched one minute later from the USS Lake Erie at its patrol area located more than 160 km from Kauai.

Two minutes after the interceptor was launched, it hit the target, Henry "Trey" Obering, director of the Defense Department's Missile Defense Agency, said in a statement.

This was the fifth successful interception in six tests of the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense system, an integral part of the US Ballistic Missile Defense System now being developed, tested and fielded by the Missile Defense Agency as part of a "layered" missile defense, the statement said.

Extensive post-test data would be evaluated to determine system performance, validate operational capability and identify potential modifications to the system to improve performance, the statement said.

The Aegis Weapon System, the basis for the sea-based element ofthe US Ballistic Missile Defense System, was currently deployed on68 US Navy cruisers and destroyers, with 18 more ships currently planned, according to the Missile Defense Agency.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/02/14/missile.defense.ap/

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- A test of the U.S. missile defense system failed Monday when an interceptor missile did not launch from its island base in the Pacific Ocean, the military said. It was the second failure in months for the experimental program."
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Old 02-25-2005, 10:23 AM   #59
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We have liberals like you in America, we just dont vote them into office.


How about we take a few steps further and distance canada from the U.S.

Lets stop trading. Lets put Canada on the Cuban economic development plan. Why dont we tell the world that the U.S. and Canada no longer work together and our hated military will not be used to assist Canada in any national affairs.


Someone other than a canadian would be running your country in less than 10 years.
Yeah right
Tell me how Castro has managed to remain so long at the helm then?
If you cant assasinate one guy on a small island right next to you, how are you going to protect the whole of Canada anyway?
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We have liberals like you in America, we just dont vote them into office.


How about we take a few steps further and distance canada from the U.S.

Lets stop trading. Lets put Canada on the Cuban economic development plan. Why dont we tell the world that the U.S. and Canada no longer work together and our hated military will not be used to assist Canada in any national affairs.


Someone other than a canadian would be running your country in less than 10 years.

Just keep watching Fox news, buddy.

That scenerio will never happen for obvious reasons. But you can keep dreaming and believing all your "reliable" Fox sources.
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you think a jet is going to shoot down an ICBM? it's that easy? they have been working for 20 plus years to get to the point that one missile could sometimes hit another missile and equate it to shooting a bullet in mid flight with another bullet. any missile defense system is not even going to be close to 100% effective with todays technology.
Well, they've been shooting down scud missiles for years, so I guess they must be getting pretty good at it, btw the Russians have been intercepting missiles since '62
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No one is going to fire on us - we arent bullies nor push our weight around, simply put Canada is not a thread to anyone - but we will be a target if USA gets to put its missles here on our soil.
Who was Czechoslovakia bullying at the beginning of WW II? How about Poland? What kind of threat were they to anyone? Canada has oil. The oil wars have only begun.
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im pretty sure, but the Canadian's wouldn't be thankful for it even if we did,,,
I'm pretty sure you are a fool. Perhaps you should think before you speak, really!
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Who was Czechoslovakia bullying at the beginning of WW II? How about Poland? What kind of threat were they to anyone? Canada has oil. The oil wars have only begun.
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All the more reason not to allow Bush to install any wepons on their soil
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...Canada has oil. The oil wars have only begun.
Who do you think is gonna attack Canada for its oil???
If any country attacks Canada, the reality is that the US and Europe would have something to say unless, of course, its the US that attacks Canada (even with the wacko-republican admin is in the realm of fantasy).
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Btw. how many nations have you Americans bullied over the last 50 years that haven't done anything wrong other than maybe having a government on the wrong side of the scale?
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Btw. how many nations have you Americans bullied over the last 50 years that haven't done anything wrong other than maybe having a government on the wrong side of the scale?

If you can read english, you should thank a U.S. soldier.
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We have liberals like you in America, we just dont vote them into office.


How about we take a few steps further and distance canada from the U.S.

Lets stop trading. Lets put Canada on the Cuban economic development plan. Why dont we tell the world that the U.S. and Canada no longer work together and our hated military will not be used to assist Canada in any national affairs.


Someone other than a canadian would be running your country in less than 10 years.
LMFAO, see it's arrogance like that, that makes you all dangerous and it's quite disturbing. What makes you think the US could survive without Canada? Please pull your head away from your unbiased news sources LOLOL You don't think the US could end up on the Cuban economic plan? If your dollar keeps dropping and the World Bank decided to change the currency to Euro's you'd be fucked.
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Who do you think is gonna attack Canada for its oil???
If any country attacks Canada, the reality is that the US and Europe would have something to say unless, of course, its the US that attacks Canada (even with the wacko-republican admin is in the realm of fantasy).

I really cant understand why people consider the republicans wacko? Republicans are the Conservative party.

Do you people realize that for over the last 30 years Republicans or at the very least, conservative southern democrats have been in the white house?

No liberal democrat has had any final say on any policy in the U.S. in a very long, long time.

The democrat party changed along time ago and most people left. (Reagan)

You call president Bush wacko because liberal democrats told you he was wacko. If they were so damn smart, you would think a liberal core value would have seeped into policies of the United States of america in the last 30 years.

The only real problem anyone has had with democrats in office is their inability to act when needed. (clinton)

I suspect that many of you really dont understand politics or in your search for infomation havn't had adequate sources available. A very good policy is for you take in information and always consider the motives of the source of the information.
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LMFAO, see it's arrogance like that, that makes you all dangerous and it's quite disturbing. What makes you think the US could survive without Canada? Please pull your head away from your unbiased news sources LOLOL You don't think the US could end up on the Cuban economic plan? If your dollar keeps dropping and the World Bank decided to change the currency to Euro's you'd be fucked.

How stupid is that? Get to local JuCo and enroll in some classes.
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^^I see your educational system worked for you. It's not as far fetched as what you purposed wiseass. You guys owe so much damn money that you could end up a third world country. Pull your head out of your ass and take a deep breath tuff guy!
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Blah blah(Fox-brainwashed babble)...


I suspect that many of you really dont understand politics or in your search for infomation havn't had adequate sources available. A very good policy is for you take in information and always consider the motives of the source of the information.
"...A very good policy is for you take in information and always consider the motives of the source of the information."

You should take your own advice.
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^^I see your educational system worked for you. It's not as far fetched as what you purposed wiseass. You guys owe so much damn money that you could end up a third world country. Pull your head out of your ass and take a deep breath tuff guy!

Where in the hell do you think 90% of your exports go?

I've got nothing against canada at all, but lets be realistic.


If the U.S. economy goes bad, Canada will be a third world country long before we see any evidence of it.
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"...A very good policy is for you take in information and always consider the motives of the source of the information."

You should take your own advice.


What was the last liberal policy the U.S. has implemented?

The only thing I can think of is "dont ask, dont tell"
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Who do you think is gonna attack Canada for its oil???
If any country attacks Canada, the reality is that the US and Europe would have something to say unless, of course, its the US that attacks Canada (even with the wacko-republican admin is in the realm of fantasy).
Do you want the whole long history of countries that started wars not in their best interest and eventually lost? How about the history of countries that thought no one would attack them because they were "nice" to everyone? Canada has taken sides plenty enough in the past 100 years to get other nations pissed off and they will again. Relying on other countries to protect you has been a recipe for disaster over and over again in history.

Oil is only illustrative. It is just one of many things that has been involved in wars in the 20th century. Let me see. Considering their future energy needs, China will need it more than anything else.
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Do you want the whole long history of countries that started wars not in their best interest and eventually lost? How about the history of countries that thought no one would attack them because they were "nice" to everyone? Canada has taken sides plenty enough in the past 100 years to get other nations pissed off and they will again. Relying on other countries to protect you has been a recipe for disaster over and over again in history.

Oil is only illustrative. It is just one of many things that has been involved in wars in the 20th century. Let me see. Considering their future energy needs, China will need it more than anything else.
Do you really think China or who-ever is going to attack Canada, and the US won't do anything about it?

You surely must realize it is in the US's best interest to defend Canada(or do I have to spell it out for you?).
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Do you really think China or who-ever is going to attack Canada, and the US won't do anything about it?

You surely must realize it is in the US's best interest to defend Canada(or do I have to spell it out for you?).

spell it out please
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Its well documents that Canadians are worried about the U.S. terrorists attacks because the U.S. wants to tighten up the borders. Canadians are worried that tighter borders would slow and hurt trade which would cripple their economy.
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Do you really think China or who-ever is going to attack Canada, and the US won't do anything about it?

You surely must realize it is in the US's best interest to defend Canada(or do I have to spell it out for you?).
No, I don't think it is very likely at all. While you're in the dictionary look up the word "illustrative" as in ...

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Oil is only illustrative. It is just one of many things that has been involved in wars in the 20th century. Let me see. Considering their future energy needs, China will need it more than anything else.
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out of the top 100 largest economies in the worl 51 are corporations
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That's scarier than anything else i've read in a long time ...
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No, I don't think it is very likely at all. While you're in the dictionary look up the word "illustrative" as in ...
PS Consider the desperate state Japan was in when they attacked the US in '41.
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Dont get me wrong. I like Canada. I have nothing against Canada. The only problem is that they are so dependent on the U.S. that they find themselves in a very unique position relative to other countries.

European countries can prosper and enjoy times when the U.S. is down. Canada needs the U.S. to prosper, but because of their liberal history, they cant admit to their people that U.S. conservative policies are the reason they prosper.
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im glad canada turned down the us offer. anyone in there right mind knows no one is going to attack canada
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if there is any missle heading towards us, Im sure the odds are in canada's favor its passing over us and heading directly to washingtons capital. No one is going to fire on us - we arent bullies nor push our weight around, simply put Canada is not a thread to anyone - but we will be a target if USA gets to put its missles here on our soil.

Face it - Canada doesnt want to have anything much to do with Bush's War outside of helping the casualties out and waiting for the 4 year term to end the dictatorship.

good luck to our targets to the south
When asked if this decision now meant Canada relied on the U.S. for protection, the Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister replied: "Would it have been otherwise?"

I say we charge for this service. We would protect Canada like brothers; you may not see eye to eye or even like them but if somebody else picks on them you kick their ass.
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Perhaps I'm not cynical enough, but when the leader of our country goes live on national news to say "No, we do not support this", I believe him.

But then, I don't get my information from the Sun, nor any of the bile-soaked Conrad Black shitrags that pass for newspapers in some of the less fortunate corners of this fine land.
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We have liberals like you in America, we just dont vote them into office.


How about we take a few steps further and distance canada from the U.S.

Lets stop trading. Lets put Canada on the Cuban economic development plan. Why dont we tell the world that the U.S. and Canada no longer work together and our hated military will not be used to assist Canada in any national affairs.


Someone other than a canadian would be running your country in less than 10 years.
Do you really think like this, or are you pretending to be stupid like The Truth Hurts was? I'm starting to think no one could be this ignorant and still operate a computer.
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I'll spell it out for you because the other guy didn't think you were really that blind. If Canada started selling all our energy to China, America would be fucked. We import your bullshit products that we can get anywhere, you import our raw materials, water, and energy. If you think it will be hard for us to find another buyer when America's economy collapses, think again.
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If someone decided to attack Canada, which is very unlikely, we are totally prepared. Directfiesta and Rich would be organizing sit ins and tea parties the very next day! Warm and fuzzy for everyone.
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Old 02-25-2005, 02:50 PM   #90
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canadians will be laughing when billions are spent on this missle defense project and it doesn't work. where is the proof that this will work? more than likely it would just end up hitting another country, in the ocean or blows up entering the earths atmosphere.
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:06 PM   #91
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These satellites already exist. In fact, this technology would be essential to any major conflict, since if you take out the other side's satellites you in effect make them blind. So the first strike of any war between technologicaly advanced countries would be in space.

There was a treaty signed in the 1970's which banned weapons in space.

As far as any of us know that treay has been honored.

Bush has recently pulled out of this treaty to begin work on this missle defense thing.
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:06 PM   #92
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I'll spell it out for you because the other guy didn't think you were really that blind. If Canada started selling all our energy to China, America would be fucked. We import your bullshit products that we can get anywhere, you import our raw materials, water, and energy. If you think it will be hard for us to find another buyer when America's economy collapses, think again.

Hahaha classic..... While there is a market, you need us just as much as we need you. It's called a mutually beneficial relationship. For not needing the US the world certainly puts a lot of focus on us.
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:15 PM   #93
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Here is the deal regarding this missle shield thing

http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/abmtreaty.asp
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Here is the deal regarding this missle shield thing

http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/abmtreaty.asp
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:41 PM   #95
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Canada is a unique place.

Best beer drinkers in the world - as well as those queer french folk.
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:51 PM   #96
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If the US was going to get hit with a missle attack Grand Forks ND (Missle bases) would be a primary target in which Winnipeg will be effected.

They would hit that before DC.
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:53 PM   #97
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The so-called contentious U.S. missile defense program is just a fiction. It can't protect from a REAL nuclear missile. Why can't you understand such an obvious fact. For instance, all the modern Russian missiles including old good Topol-M can not be intercepted in principle. All US scientists know that it will be even impossible within near 15-20 years. All this program is just a way to steal the taxpayer's money. Is there anyone remember "problem 2000"??? How many $$$ was spent to prevent that fake problem 2000? Who knows?..
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Nobody cares about Canada, but they're damn close to us.. everyone near our border needs to be very afraid
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canadians will be laughing when billions are spent on this missle defense project and it doesn't work. where is the proof that this will work? more than likely it would just end up hitting another country, in the ocean or blows up entering the earths atmosphere.
Indeed, although they've already spent tens of billions on it, so the total price tag will probably be in the hundreds of billions. After all that, Russians will still be able to beat it with technology they have today.
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If the US was going to get hit with a missle attack Grand Forks ND (Missle bases) would be a primary target in which Winnipeg will be effected.

They would hit that before DC.
Exactly, and America wants us to join BMD so they'll be able to shoot down that missile over Canada. I'm sure you know that America already has a missile shield over those missiles in ND, which was part of the treaty in exchange for Russia having a shield over Moscow. As it stands now, they'd have to shoot down the missile over North Dakota, assuming it works, which it most likely wouldn't. Ask people in North Dakota how much they like the idea of those nuclear tipped defense missiles that the government is ready to shoot over their cities to protect a nuclear missle base.
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