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Old 02-24-2005, 12:48 PM   #1
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Ever Been To Prison?

I was watching some kind of special about high-security prisons last night on one of the cable channels and they were talking about violence in the prison system. At one point they showed some video footage of a prisoner getting attacked by another prisoner with a knife and almost killed the dude. That got me to wondering about what responsibilities that the state has to keep you safe after they sentance you to years in jail. And...if the state fails to keep you safe and you get hurt, do you have any legal recourse like bringing lawsuits against the state for failure to protect you against violent persons. Surely a prisoner has some kind of legal recourse for the failure of a prison to protect one, no?

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Old 02-24-2005, 12:50 PM   #2
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Old 02-24-2005, 12:50 PM   #3
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Many times people have sued states over inmates getting mamed or killed.

However if the prison provides "Adequate" security most times these lawsuits are dropped.
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Old 02-24-2005, 12:51 PM   #4
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all prisons arent like that
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Old 02-24-2005, 01:00 PM   #5
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You're right, I wonder if you do have any legal options to sue the prison system. You would probably have to have money for your case though
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Old 02-24-2005, 01:05 PM   #6
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If you die in prison, they just chalk it up for, "Well, if he didn't do the crime, he wouldn't have been doing the time..."

No one could care less. Do you think the court system is going to back an estranged Mother who's butt fucking child molesting son was shanked in the fucking shower? The cocksucker already wasted enough of the state attorney's office time.

You would have to prove GROSS negligence in order to win anything like that, and in order to do that you would need hard proof. Prison guards and officials are like cops, more or less. They aren't going to rat anyone out (unless there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow).
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Old 02-24-2005, 01:07 PM   #7
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Many times people have sued states over inmates getting mamed or killed.

However if the prison provides "Adequate" security most times these lawsuits are dropped.
If a prison provides "adequate" security and someone get's killed, then the security wasn't "adequate" enough and someone should be held responsible. At least, that's my thoughts on it. ??
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Old 02-24-2005, 01:09 PM   #8
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i got 2 friends in the state pen that i go see every month or so. They say nothing like that really happens. there are fights but nothing like what you see on tv. Those type are usually rare unless your like in a CA prison. Tv shows just use that footage alot for shock value.
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Old 02-24-2005, 01:18 PM   #9
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:21 PM   #12
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:22 PM   #13
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:31 PM   #14
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If a prison provides "adequate" security and someone get's killed, then the security wasn't "adequate" enough and someone should be held responsible. At least, that's my thoughts on it. ??
No such thing as adequate secruity in a prison. If someone wants you dead they will find a way.
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:36 PM   #15
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I am trying to remember, back in the 70's a friend of mine had his brother transporting some illegal substance to PA and he got busted.

Being a young kid at the time he was soon raped. I remember there was a lawsuit filed, but I don't remember the results of it. He may have gotten an early release . . . but too many years ago to remember for sure.
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:54 PM   #16
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:56 PM   #17
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I visited a medium security prison with my Crim class. They told us the solitary section was more for the inmates' safety than punishment. They put child molesters and rapists in there, because the other inmates won't put up with them in the regular population. So they have separate exercise hours and eating hours and everything. But who knows, maybe that was just PR spin.
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Old 02-24-2005, 04:56 PM   #18
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criminals hate criminals...some prisoned man can DO nothing with HARSH inmates...that's really a BIG question how come cops assigned can't do anything...yah know they still have their rights...coz they are HUMAN
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Old 02-24-2005, 05:53 PM   #19
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criminals hate criminals...some prisoned man can DO nothing with HARSH inmates...that's really a BIG question how come cops assigned can't do anything...yah know they still have their rights...coz they are HUMAN
what? Try again?
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Old 02-24-2005, 06:02 PM   #20
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i've been to prison numerous times, but a relative runs it, so no biggie
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Old 02-24-2005, 06:19 PM   #22
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i call bullshit to whoever says that shit is only on TV

to answer dean: the state (of CA) separates prisoners by "levels" which separates the more dangerous from the less dangerous...they also separate by race, gang, and if a person has any enemies he can declare it upon entry to his reception prison and they will keep him separated from those prisoners during his incarceration
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Old 02-24-2005, 09:23 PM   #28
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i doubt you would have any success in trying to sue a prison
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