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spacedog · 12-06-2001, 06:14 AM

I got a listing

http://spacedog.noheaders.com/erase.htm

Gee I feel productive today

hehehe!
What a waste?

Roberto · 12-06-2001, 06:27 AM

cool set, is it new?

[This message has been edited by Roberto (edited 12-06-2001).]

TommyGun · 12-06-2001, 06:31 AM

Good job, I hope you make billions.

The Truth · 12-06-2001, 06:39 AM

How nice of you to use your noheaders account to promote the only sponsor that the host tries to promote with his bandwidth.

Oh well.

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Roberto · 12-06-2001, 06:47 AM

actually i think that helps noheaders.com, you read the whole interneteraser fpa, then go straight to the bottom link knowing what it is about

yys · 12-06-2001, 06:51 AM

Nice, I wish I could get a gallery with that much ad space and 10 pics listed. It should do well for you. Good luck

The Hun · 12-06-2001, 07:46 AM

Correction... I checked the database and I see your link in there, so you submitted, but it's not reviewed yet. I'm pretty sure this will not get listed. It's content that I've seen before and the ad in the middle takes up more of your gallery then the thumbs. There's 10 thumbs on there which is way below when is listed on my site...

Look at what gets listed on www.thehun.net.

4Pics · 12-06-2001, 08:35 AM

well atleast you know now you won't get listed doing a gallery like that.

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Ludedude · 12-06-2001, 08:37 AM

Bang Zoom...you got NOTHING

Lane · 12-06-2001, 08:42 AM

lol, this is funny

Trax · 12-06-2001, 08:50 AM

yes.. this really is funny

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NickB. · 12-06-2001, 08:50 AM

It's good to see That quality is required

Better next time!

Trax · 12-06-2001, 08:51 AM

oh yeah.. forgot.. the gallery doesn´t work.. it does not display any pictures down here so i can´t check

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whoreans · 12-06-2001, 08:53 AM

all that hardwork down the drain

mailman · 12-06-2001, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun:
Correction... I checked the database and I see your link in there, so you submitted, but it's not reviewed yet. I'm pretty sure this will not get listed. It's content that I've seen before and the ad in the middle takes up more of your gallery then the thumbs. There's 10 thumbs on there which is way below when is listed on my site...

Look at what gets listed on www.thehun.net.

OUCH spacedog shot down from outer space....

Bruno · 12-06-2001, 11:46 AM

Damn... was that a HUGE sack or what?

I'm sorry spacedog... try to make higher quality next time!

take care,

Bruno

GiggleBerries · 12-06-2001, 11:51 AM

Yep, that sucks. You do really need to ease up on the advertising though. The Hun also needs to get over himself. Sure he runs the busiest TGP in the world, but as far as design and technical abilities go, he is WAY out gunned. As they say Hun, all good things must come to an end. Your good thing will come to an end soon. Mark my words. You are not God. You are just some dipshit with a funky yellow site and a shitload of freeloading visitors.

3Xguru · 12-06-2001, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun:
Look at what gets listed on www.thehun.net.

Stop the spam!

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BradShaw · 12-06-2001, 12:52 PM

Hun thief.

Ron2k1 · 12-06-2001, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GiggleBerries:
Yep, that sucks. You do really need to ease up on the advertising though. The Hun also needs to get over himself. Sure he runs the busiest TGP in the world, but as far as design and technical abilities go, he is WAY out gunned. As they say Hun, all good things must come to an end. Your good thing will come to an end soon. Mark my words. You are not God. You are just some dipshit with a funky yellow site and a shitload of freeloading visitors.

You evil man, Bow to The Hun!

[This message has been edited by Ron2k1 (edited 12-06-2001).]

sexxxboom · 12-06-2001, 01:07 PM

h0st · 12-06-2001, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog:
I got a listing

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun:
this will not get listed

LOL LOL LOL

.:h0st

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ez12 · 12-06-2001, 01:18 PM

I never post at the hun cause they have banned my main sponsor (ARS) that's pretty fucked up if you ask me

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Ludedude · 12-06-2001, 01:21 PM

No, EZ12, what's fucked up is the endless circle jerk you get when you try to leave one of those sponsors. ARS is only one of many on that distinguished list which includes many many major sponsors.

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^R3K^ · 12-06-2001, 01:29 PM

That was too funny..

Dingleberries The hun is here to stay Because of his rules about quality..
His Programing Skills are second to none and his design works so why bitch?
And at least he knows he runs a porn site. unlike Richard.

Clay · 12-06-2001, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GiggleBerries:
Your good thing will come to an end soon. Mark my words. You are not God. You are just some dipshit with a funky yellow site and a shitload of freeloading visitors.

You are a fucktard.

TheHun is a guy who minds his own business, runs his own site without being dependant on links from other sites, and doesn't bother anyone. It's jealous assholes like you that get in his face.

Go into any message board and ask the members for a website to look at free porn and most of the responses will be Thehun.net.

Good luck in this business with an attitude like that you tard.

Tanker · 12-06-2001, 02:01 PM

The huns traffic is sweet
we have many affiliates that get
40+ signups a listing

Thanks theHun

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GiggleBerries · 12-06-2001, 02:05 PM

Glad to see you all bowing to the hun. Why don't you kiss a little more ass while you're at it. All praise the hun. HAHAHA. Morons.

pornsuite · 12-06-2001, 02:06 PM

oops lol

Trax · 12-06-2001, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GiggleBerries:
Glad to see you all bowing to the hun. Why don't you kiss a little more ass while you're at it. All praise the hun. HAHAHA. Morons.

bullshit.. when theres something i dont like i dont fear to say it.. i´m no asskisser like others..
but i like most of you guys so there´s no need to be rude

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Naughty · 12-06-2001, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tanker:
The huns traffic is sweet
we have many affiliates that get
40+ signups a listing

Well, i hope he gets back on us then, we have submitted 2 of 'm (1 Tawnee, 1 LS Univ) the past 7 days and haven't heard a single thing yet.
If we get declined for whatever reason, we also would like to hear that, the galleries are sweet.

[This message has been edited by Naughty (edited 12-06-2001).]

GiggleBerries · 12-06-2001, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Naughty:
Well, i hope he gets back on us then, we have submitted 2 of 'm (1 Tawnee, 1 LS Univ) the past 7 days and haven't heard a single thing yet.
If we get declined for whatever reason, we also would like to hear that, the galleries are sweet.

[This message has been edited by Naughty (edited 12-06-2001).]

Let me guess, you used the same lame free content that everyone else is using? if so, I wouldn't hold your breath for a reply. Your gallery was probably not even considered. I think we are all sick of seeing that free content.

Naughty · 12-06-2001, 02:51 PM

Giggle, thanks. That is a good answer. Isn't that the best way to promote the site they are going to be? What is the point in showing our amateur content if they are going to a Tawnee Stone site?

Anyway, I'll try again with our own content some day, nobody has that (at least I haven't seen it anywhere and if I do, I have some phonecalls to make).

Thnxx.

[This message has been edited by Naughty (edited 12-06-2001).]

quiet · 12-06-2001, 02:59 PM

too funny.

spacedog · 12-06-2001, 10:58 PM

Gee..What a response..
The whole point I was trying to make was that it was a complete waste of time making this gallery, & as it turns out..a complete waste of time submitting it too!
I just visited the hun..
He's not as particular as he claims..
There are galleries with only 10 pictures..MANY...so my gallery having only 10 pics shouldn't be such a problem?

Excerpt from The Hun's Own Rules http://www.thehun.net/webmaster/.

"There's no minimum or maximum for the number of thumbs that has to be on a gallery",

A contradiction?

Besides the point..
Content that he has seen before??
So..
It's not Ok to post seen pictures before, but he can post ILLEGAL MATERIAL?
On Main page..dated dec6, animal movies by paul..4 links down from top..
is..http://www.rawbeastmovies.com/thehun/9/
This is illegal material..(Hey, but that's what turns the hun on isnt it..)

Gee..MY ad's too big..the next listing below the dog fucker is just as big.. http://www.your-teens.com/bangbus/russ/banged.html

This one's not even a gallery? http://free.cclb1.com/main/free/06-Dec-2001.htm

He supposedly don't like ars..that's why a very high percentage of his links to gallerys are on bestsexhost.net..ARS's Host??
All of them promoting ARS

HAHAHA LOL>.

More contradictions?
But Who cares if it lacks consistency & conformity..that's what makes his site unique..
If Hun desires quality, his visitors keep coming back...
This should be a lesson..
Use FRESH Content..
Use a higher ratio of thumbs to ads..
& Go for quality!!

O.K..I gotta try out my next expiriment

I'll use the same sponsor..(on different host..) With Different niche & more thumbs & less advertising..However..I promise It will be somewhat offensive

Off to work

mailman · 12-06-2001, 11:11 PM

Space you galley was UGLY thats what the problem was... the first link was listed cause it was crisp and clen... the second link posed it a guy who buys listings...

MrPanama · 12-06-2001, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tanker:
The huns traffic is sweet
we have many affiliates that get
40+ signups a listing

Thanks theHun

I signed up for LightSpeed a few months ago and im thinking about starting to promote it. Can anyone tell me how much they pay per sign up? And how much they pay per membership renewal? Thanks.

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mailman · 12-06-2001, 11:39 PM

just under 15$.. converts awsome :-)

TAWNEE STONE

Gary · 12-06-2001, 11:45 PM

Beastiality is not illegal. Its a recreational activity enjoyed by many.

Ludedude · 12-06-2001, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary:
Beastiality is not illegal. Its a recreational activity enjoyed by many.

indeed

Ron2k1 · 12-07-2001, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GiggleBerries:
Glad to see you all bowing to the hun. Why don't you kiss a little more ass while you're at it. All praise the hun. HAHAHA. Morons.

The Hun is like jezus
You are nothing

Your giggleberies.com site is getting 40 raw visitors a day? Great man, I'm sure you get loads of gallery's submitted daily

waste · 12-07-2001, 05:39 AM

wow this thread took a turn for the worst along time ago.

ok the man has alot of vistors, but that doesn't make him god this is true. just because the guy has alot more vistors than you doesn't mean you have to talk shit this is also true.

why not just meet in vegas and buy eachother a few beers let it all be forgotten?

well thats just my thoughts.

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The Hun · 12-07-2001, 09:21 AM

Don't you just love this? You decline someone and they go all funny on you... People have strange ways of dealing with disappointments...

There's no contradictions in my rules. Not at all. I don't have a minimum requirement for the number of pictures. It's all in the design of the gallery. And in the quality of the content. A gallery with 10 pics and 5 banners can look a lot better than a gallery with 30 pictures and 2 banners... it's all in the layout...

bestfreehost.com does not have ARS banners on it. It's not advetising console loops on their sites so I see no reason whatsoever in blacklisting 'em.

I think my rules are as simple as can be. Be fair to the visitors. Don't trap 'em in consoles, don't try to lure 'em with blind links and give 'em some quality. Galleries used to be previews... "Want to see more? Sign up here". Quality content costs money, there's ways to tell that to people so you can convert visitors to cash. Tricking 'em is not the way to do that successfully.

Think long-term. People have been shouting my site would be gone soon for 5 years straight now ;-)... So far I'm still here. This industry is depending on visitors to make money, yet a lot of players in this industry seems to have the lowest respect for those visitors. Somehow that seems wrong to me. I care for my visitors. They are what makes my page successful. Advertisers come to sites with many visitors, not the other way around. Sure, the design sucks, very simply layout, I could add a lot of fancy stuff, sure, but that would only get my bandwidth bill up. People don't come to my site to see how well I can design pages. And they don't come to see what kind of programs I write. They come to see some good old adult entertainment. And a few of my visitors sign up for something every now and then. So far this concept worked pretty well, and I'm pretty sure it will continue to do so for a while...

12-07-2001, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GiggleBerries:
Glad to see you all bowing to the hun. Why don't you kiss a little more ass while you're at it. All praise the hun. HAHAHA. Morons.

Ass kissing certainly ain't appropriate. But in fact it is the Hun's site that is on the very top of sextracker and not yours. He got it up there and that's why he's respected. As soon as you hit that spot and beat the dipshit with his funky yellow site, we all might regain respect for your sorry ass - otherwise I don't see the point in your posting your smartass comments on this board.

[This message has been edited by Equinox (edited 12-07-2001).]

Aussie Rebel · 12-07-2001, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPanama:
I signed up for LightSpeed a few months ago and im thinking about starting to promote it. Can anyone tell me how much they pay per sign up? And how much they pay per membership renewal? Thanks.

LightSpeed Rock!!

12-06-2001, 06:14 AM	#1
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	latest waste of bandwidth..THE HUN COMETH! I got a listing http://spacedog.noheaders.com/erase.htm Gee I feel productive today hehehe! What a waste?

12-06-2001, 01:07 PM	#21
sexxxboom Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 303	¿?

12-06-2001, 06:27 AM	#2
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	cool set, is it new? [This message has been edited by Roberto (edited 12-06-2001).]

12-06-2001, 06:31 AM	#3
TommyGun Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 43	Good job, I hope you make billions.

12-06-2001, 06:39 AM	#4
The Truth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: U.S.of A. Posts: 920	How nice of you to use your noheaders account to promote the only sponsor that the host tries to promote with his bandwidth. Oh well. ------------------ Make $$$ the Diabolical Way

12-06-2001, 06:47 AM	#5
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	actually i think that helps noheaders.com, you read the whole interneteraser fpa, then go straight to the bottom link knowing what it is about

12-06-2001, 06:51 AM	#6
yys Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,922	Nice, I wish I could get a gallery with that much ad space and 10 pics listed. It should do well for you. Good luck

12-06-2001, 07:46 AM	#7
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	Correction... I checked the database and I see your link in there, so you submitted, but it's not reviewed yet. I'm pretty sure this will not get listed. It's content that I've seen before and the ad in the middle takes up more of your gallery then the thumbs. There's 10 thumbs on there which is way below when is listed on my site... Look at what gets listed on www.thehun.net.

12-06-2001, 08:35 AM	#8
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	well atleast you know now you won't get listed doing a gallery like that. ------------------ 4Pics - Submit your Tgp2 Galleries

12-06-2001, 08:37 AM	#9
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	Bang Zoom...you got NOTHING

12-06-2001, 08:42 AM	#10
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	lol, this is funny

12-06-2001, 08:50 AM	#11
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	yes.. this really is funny ------------------ Best Paying Sponsors: ARS - Best PayPerSignup + AVS Sponsor ICQ: 59101924

12-06-2001, 08:50 AM	#12
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	It's good to see That quality is required Better next time!

12-06-2001, 08:51 AM	#13
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	oh yeah.. forgot.. the gallery doesn´t work.. it does not display any pictures down here so i can´t check ------------------ Best Paying Sponsors: ARS - Best PayPerSignup + AVS Sponsor ICQ: 59101924

12-06-2001, 08:53 AM	#14
whoreans Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Queens NY Posts: 1,407	all that hardwork down the drain

12-06-2001, 11:46 AM	#16
Bruno Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: São Paulo - SP - Brazil Posts: 1,241	Damn... was that a HUGE sack or what? I'm sorry spacedog... try to make higher quality next time! take care, Bruno

12-06-2001, 11:51 AM	#17
GiggleBerries Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The pay phone outside the 7-11 Posts: 357	Yep, that sucks. You do really need to ease up on the advertising though. The Hun also needs to get over himself. Sure he runs the busiest TGP in the world, but as far as design and technical abilities go, he is WAY out gunned. As they say Hun, all good things must come to an end. Your good thing will come to an end soon. Mark my words. You are not God. You are just some dipshit with a funky yellow site and a shitload of freeloading visitors.

12-06-2001, 12:52 PM	#19
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Hun thief.

12-06-2001, 01:18 PM	#23
ez12 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 388 753 309 Posts: 2,438	I never post at the hun cause they have banned my main sponsor (ARS) that's pretty fucked up if you ask me ------------------ ez12, proud member of the deluxefamily http://www.deluxegirls.com Looking 4 some free content: DeluxeFreeContentPage

12-06-2001, 01:21 PM	#24
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	No, EZ12, what's fucked up is the endless circle jerk you get when you try to leave one of those sponsors. ARS is only one of many on that distinguished list which includes many many major sponsors. ------------------ Make 60% recurring with these Babes! The Webmaster's Folder The Midnight TGP2 Submitter

12-06-2001, 01:29 PM	#25
^R3K^ Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,815	That was too funny.. Dingleberries The hun is here to stay Because of his rules about quality.. His Programing Skills are second to none and his design works so why bitch? And at least he knows he runs a porn site. unlike Richard.

12-06-2001, 02:01 PM	#27
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	The huns traffic is sweet we have many affiliates that get 40+ signups a listing Thanks theHun ------------------ Tanker [email protected] Turn your galleries into money making machines!! 25,000 free pics to choose from.. ICQ 3427575

12-06-2001, 02:05 PM	#28
GiggleBerries Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The pay phone outside the 7-11 Posts: 357	Glad to see you all bowing to the hun. Why don't you kiss a little more ass while you're at it. All praise the hun. HAHAHA. Morons.

12-06-2001, 02:06 PM	#29
pornsuite Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 651	oops lol

12-06-2001, 02:51 PM	#33
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,484	Giggle, thanks. That is a good answer. Isn't that the best way to promote the site they are going to be? What is the point in showing our amateur content if they are going to a Tawnee Stone site? Anyway, I'll try again with our own content some day, nobody has that (at least I haven't seen it anywhere and if I do, I have some phonecalls to make). Thnxx. [This message has been edited by Naughty (edited 12-06-2001).]

12-06-2001, 02:59 PM	#34
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	too funny.

12-06-2001, 10:58 PM	#35
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	Gee..What a response.. The whole point I was trying to make was that it was a complete waste of time making this gallery, & as it turns out..a complete waste of time submitting it too! I just visited the hun.. He's not as particular as he claims.. There are galleries with only 10 pictures..MANY...so my gallery having only 10 pics shouldn't be such a problem? Excerpt from The Hun's Own Rules http://www.thehun.net/webmaster/. "There's no minimum or maximum for the number of thumbs that has to be on a gallery", A contradiction? Besides the point.. Content that he has seen before?? So.. It's not Ok to post seen pictures before, but he can post ILLEGAL MATERIAL? On Main page..dated dec6, animal movies by paul..4 links down from top.. is..http://www.rawbeastmovies.com/thehun/9/ This is illegal material..(Hey, but that's what turns the hun on isnt it..) Gee..MY ad's too big..the next listing below the dog fucker is just as big.. http://www.your-teens.com/bangbus/russ/banged.html This one's not even a gallery? http://free.cclb1.com/main/free/06-Dec-2001.htm He supposedly don't like ars..that's why a very high percentage of his links to gallerys are on bestsexhost.net..ARS's Host?? All of them promoting ARS HAHAHA LOL>. More contradictions? But Who cares if it lacks consistency & conformity..that's what makes his site unique.. If Hun desires quality, his visitors keep coming back... This should be a lesson.. Use FRESH Content.. Use a higher ratio of thumbs to ads.. & Go for quality!! O.K..I gotta try out my next expiriment I'll use the same sponsor..(on different host..) With Different niche & more thumbs & less advertising..However..I promise It will be somewhat offensive Off to work

12-06-2001, 11:11 PM	#36
mailman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,311	Space you galley was UGLY thats what the problem was... the first link was listed cause it was crisp and clen... the second link posed it a guy who buys listings...

12-06-2001, 11:39 PM	#38
mailman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,311	just under 15$.. converts awsome :-) TAWNEE STONE

12-06-2001, 11:45 PM	#39
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	Beastiality is not illegal. Its a recreational activity enjoyed by many.

12-07-2001, 05:39 AM	#42
waste Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Baltimore Posts: 770	wow this thread took a turn for the worst along time ago. ok the man has alot of vistors, but that doesn't make him god this is true. just because the guy has alot more vistors than you doesn't mean you have to talk shit this is also true. why not just meet in vegas and buy eachother a few beers let it all be forgotten? well thats just my thoughts. ------------------ Quik-Host Prices starting at ¢80 per gig!

12-07-2001, 09:21 AM	#43
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	Don't you just love this? You decline someone and they go all funny on you... People have strange ways of dealing with disappointments... There's no contradictions in my rules. Not at all. I don't have a minimum requirement for the number of pictures. It's all in the design of the gallery. And in the quality of the content. A gallery with 10 pics and 5 banners can look a lot better than a gallery with 30 pictures and 2 banners... it's all in the layout... bestfreehost.com does not have ARS banners on it. It's not advetising console loops on their sites so I see no reason whatsoever in blacklisting 'em. I think my rules are as simple as can be. Be fair to the visitors. Don't trap 'em in consoles, don't try to lure 'em with blind links and give 'em some quality. Galleries used to be previews... "Want to see more? Sign up here". Quality content costs money, there's ways to tell that to people so you can convert visitors to cash. Tricking 'em is not the way to do that successfully. Think long-term. People have been shouting my site would be gone soon for 5 years straight now ;-)... So far I'm still here. This industry is depending on visitors to make money, yet a lot of players in this industry seems to have the lowest respect for those visitors. Somehow that seems wrong to me. I care for my visitors. They are what makes my page successful. Advertisers come to sites with many visitors, not the other way around. Sure, the design sucks, very simply layout, I could add a lot of fancy stuff, sure, but that would only get my bandwidth bill up. People don't come to my site to see how well I can design pages. And they don't come to see what kind of programs I write. They come to see some good old adult entertainment. And a few of my visitors sign up for something every now and then. So far this concept worked pretty well, and I'm pretty sure it will continue to do so for a while...