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 Steve, read the case I posted. While I agree she can?t directly promote herself as Tawnee Stone (I believe) she can use the name in a biographical sense and because of that she will be able to cash in on some of that goodwill from that name. I know Playboy has some expensive lawyers. http://www.phillipsnizer.com/library...ib_case264.cfm  | 
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 I posted Tawnee's story here, and she will be contacting webmasters very soon on her own. Steve Lightspeed 
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		 Wow, I knew someone in the industry was going to pull a Latrell Sprewell. "I cannot feed my kids with $14 million." 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 You seem like a nice guy , after reading your interview I had a new respect for you . You have hot girls , a good program. Why talk about this here, from what I hear your much more professional then that.If you think talking about it will turn webmasters off to her. It wont happen the smell of money will be too strong. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 She's cute, I'll give her that... but, I do not think she is as gorgeous as she thinks she is.  After she finds out you posted her shit here, she'll feel pretty lame.  Nobody is going to pay her more, nobody.  Who needs a model with that kind of attitude?  Fuck her!  I would. lol 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Let her go you own everything you have no use for her anymore, she wants to leave and think she can start over again let her try 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			2K a month? Dont take my opinon as harsh,I have heard nothing but great stuff about your operation, you do awesome stuff. Tawny deserves more though bud. 
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	Your call dude, I just think you're making a mistake by talking (crying) about it here... if she's a bitch like it sound... let her go with no regret. Say, well thank you for the money you made me while we worked together. Sorry it didn't work out for a longer period of time, but oh well. Lots more fish in the sea my friend.  | 
	
		
                 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
			
		
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	You can't expect Tawnee to keep you guys on top forever. It's time to find another lightspeed girl and show the world why you (and your team) are the best at what you do. All these "young-girl" sites that are popping up are trying to copy your success and most fall on their faces. It's takes skill to do what you have done with Tawnee - believe me....you did it once - you can do it again  | 
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 I know several "small" programs that spend over a quarter of a million dollars every year on CONTENT alone. Marketing, promotions, and affiliate pay is that quarter million several times over. Steve saying he's spent millions of dollars on this girl is no exaggeration. I'm sure he could pull up a spread sheet that states EXACTLY how much has been spent on marketing Tawnee. Good products are nothing without good marketing. Of course, good products with good marketing create something stellar. 
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 For god sakes she takes her clothes off. Shes not a brain surgeon. Cut her loose. You'll figure it out . good luck. 
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 Its a WWE trademark. When Sable left, she tried to use the name 'Sable', but got sued by the WWE. Anyway, we all know she went back to the WWE and probably got paid less than what she was making before.  | 
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 The question now is what is the FAIR solution to everyone? Hopefully this post will reveal the perfect answer before damage is done. Steve Lightspeed 
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 From your other posts seems you have some new girls, so losing her will be a blow, but if you already have content screw it. Just push the new girls that much harder and make a new star. I just set up a deal tonight for my first single girl site. There are plenty of hot girls out there that can and will want to take her place. Wish her the best of luck and just find a new girl. 
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		 Tell her like this you will always have a place to come back to but things will never be the same have fun! Somebody will pick her up but she wont convert with a new site she will be back!   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 "Under certain conditions, use of a competitor's trademark in your advertising is legal in the United States." Don't be surprised if you see "I used to be Tawnee Stone but I grew up". It's legal and any good lawyer will tell you that  | 
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	Tell her "good luck" emailing the other Website owners. I hope she goes on to be a success, good for her... but she's obviously not right for your budget (or is she?). You seem to think you pay her enough for the type of poses she does, FUCKING LET HER GO SHOOT SOFTCORE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE AND MAKE $160k or $120k, whatever.  | 
	
		
                 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
			
		
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		 Well first step to a fair solution is seeing what she wants and what your willing to give and see if you can come to the middle .Remembering you had a young girl come into a agreement that will effect the rest of her life. Jobs she wont get and oportunities that will be missed because she was the webgirl.So you have a responbility and remember Karma can be a bitch. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 130k last year & she's probably broke isnt she?  sheesh...  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			good riddance steve, i know the kind of girls you can find, ive seen it first hand. tawnee served her purpose & helped get u where u are today, now its time to find someone hotter & less conceited, and she's out there trust me. 
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 is it fair? at 22, i was making $7 an hour working at a gift shop, living with 2 roomates, going to asu full time, paying my own way...would have been nice having a 2k subsidy you almost make it sound like he is throwing her out on the street hungry, the man is not a charity 
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		 Their is one way she can make it big still! TawneeCash.com  Their you go if she is reading this you better pick that up and start your own shit!  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 You should have seen me shaking my head when I met super hot Columbian whores willing to do anything for 60 bucks a day. Tawnee priced herself out of the game. Steve Lightspeed 
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	Offer her 3-4k a month for 6 more months. Get 2 years more worth of content out of her and make sure you leave tons of brownies and fatty foods around the studio when you shoot. In 6 months the porker will be 200lbs and no one will hire her. LOL! DH  | 
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