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iwantchixx 02-23-2005 06:52 PM

Interesting. While I regret looking into this to draw my own conclusions I have learned something about some very popular teen sites floating around TGPs lately. Kind of left me with a sick feeling in my stomach but it leaves me wondering about the validity of virgins-art and virginsphotos as far as the age of models are concerned.
Those virgins-art and virginsphotos sites have a bit of an underage flair to it if you will. I wonder if they are 100% legal then if this is the case that this same guy has -18 teen model sites.

There is no hardcore evident on those underage domains so really, where these sites are hosted it may actually be legal unfortunately. Also, it has been ruled before that just posing children is not deemed illegal so long as not in sexual context. Immoral in our eyes... yes, illegal? Not really yet unfortunately.
One thing that struck me though was that the sisters one has content on it that looks like content I've seen around on many TGPs promoting virgins-art and virginsphotos. Looks like some of it is UNDER and some it OF age. Also, just from looking at the first pages of the underage sites it appears that some of these same models appear on virgin-art and virgin-photos. I've seen the same girls on TGP galleries all over the web. If it's the same set or not, who knows. The content I found seemed like 18+, but after seeing this, it makes me wonder, is it really 18+?

tungsten 02-23-2005 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx
Interesting. While I regret looking into this to draw my own conclusions I have learned something about some very popular teen sites floating around TGPs lately. Kind of left me with a sick feeling in my stomach but it leaves me wondering about the validity of virgins-art and virginsphotos as far as the age of models are concerned.
Those virgins-art and virginsphotos sites have a bit of an underage flair to it if you will. I wonder if they are 100% legal then if this is the case that this same guy has -18 teen model sites.

There is no hardcore evident on those underage domains so really, where these sites are hosted it may actually be legal unfortunately. Also, it has been ruled before that just posing children is not deemed illegal so long as not in sexual context. Immoral in our eyes... yes, illegal? Not really yet unfortunately.
One thing that struck me though was that the sisters one has content on it that looks like content I've seen around on many TGPs promoting virgins-art and virginsphotos. Looks like some of it is UNDER and some it OF age. Also, just from looking at the first pages of the underage sites it appears that some of these same models appear on virgin-art and virgin-photos. I've seen the same girls on TGP galleries all over the web. If it's the same set or not, who knows. The content I found seemed like 18+, but after seeing this, it makes me wonder, is it really 18+?

what are you talking about as long as there is no sexual act, its illegal to be acting in adult movies if you are under 18 period :helpme

Webby 02-23-2005 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyking
do a search for "Models Entertainment Agency" on google groups for more evidence

Yep... It don't take a brain to see the overall marketing plan :-)

The usual "enticing" and leading on to cross-sells/upsells etc - even the spam promo is done of the basis of "lolita" keywords.

Don't have to see any more - it's clear as day they are previewing for *real* child porn memberships on other sites. Check out the history and ya got 8-14 year old kids.

I think the charge is conspiracy :winkwink:

iwantchixx 02-23-2005 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tungsten
what are you talking about as long as there is no sexual act, its illegal to be acting in adult movies if you are under 18 period :helpme

I'm commenting on what I saw and I saw no adult movies nor any hardcore nor any sexual acts. I would bet 1000 to 1 though that there probably is inside and I eally don't want to find out either way as I'm not particularly interested in kids.

Steen2 02-23-2005 07:05 PM

Playing with fire here.

gh0st 02-23-2005 07:06 PM

wtf how can they do that

nastyking 02-23-2005 07:06 PM

# GET www.xxl-cash.com
500 Can't connect to www.xxl-cash.com:80

now .. that was fast

V_RocKs 02-23-2005 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyking
# GET www.xxl-cash.com
500 Can't connect to www.xxl-cash.com:80

now .. that was fast

Works fine in California...

loveithard 02-23-2005 07:14 PM

just some more info to back up that we are looking at kiddie porn and spam operation here

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=d...q=xxl-cash.com

Mr.Fiction 02-23-2005 07:14 PM

I didn't click on them, but don't post links to underage shit on GFY. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/images/icons/mad2.gif

pornguy 02-23-2005 07:15 PM

If those sites are in question in the way you are saying. then why the fuck did you link to them from here??

jscott 02-23-2005 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrivateIvy
I didn't see ANYTHING that qualified as "Art" on that site :Oh crap


Ivy

yea, made me kinda sick to my stomach seeing that site :disgust

XX_RydeR 02-23-2005 07:24 PM

xxl-cash is listed as a safe sponcer at asacp ????

DavieVegas 02-23-2005 07:25 PM

fucking gross man..how is that shit legal?

SureFire 02-23-2005 07:30 PM

Work of Art? Just plain sick. Whoever runs those sites should be prosecuted. :(

loveithard 02-23-2005 07:32 PM

Look at all the info you can get about xxl-cash. They are know operators of underage nude model sites and also spamming the hell out of it. How can they be asacp approved ?

keyboard warrior 02-23-2005 07:47 PM

that shit looks wrong! total cp

they use orangebill ?

dready 02-23-2005 07:51 PM

Those guys should be shut down.

kmanrox 02-23-2005 07:58 PM

hey i hate to break it to you... but that is one of the most ILLEGAL sites i've seen in ages... wtf is wrong with you Alex???

kmanrox 02-23-2005 07:58 PM

ya know what alex, if i ever see you at a convention i'm going to FUCK you up

Spunky 02-23-2005 08:00 PM

Why do all the scum seem to come from Russia? :disgust

tASSy 02-23-2005 08:02 PM

GROSS. :mad:

Alex 02-23-2005 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox
hey i hate to break it to you... but that is one of the most ILLEGAL sites i've seen in ages... wtf is wrong with you Alex???


What the fuck is wrong with you. Go read my post.
Im completely against this shit.

I just posted some crock that these idiots used as a diclaimer.

OG LennyT 02-23-2005 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
I never understood why CC companies allow these kind of sites to be processed.


Legit companies dont. You think Visa looks highly upon kiddy porn?

:winkwink:

Young 02-23-2005 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
What the fuck is wrong with you. Go read my post.
Im completely against this shit.

I just posted some crock that these idiots used as a diclaimer.

Alex I thought you were justifying what they did too at first...but I tend to read whole threads before forming replys. Might want to have someone edit that if you can. :2 cents:

psyko514 02-23-2005 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
What the fuck is wrong with you. Go read my post.
Im completely against this shit.

I just posted some crock that these idiots used as a diclaimer.

You should have mentioned that in your post. When I read it, I thought you were defending your own sites. It was cleared up as I read the rest of the thread, but not everyone reads the whole thread.

Alex 02-23-2005 10:59 PM

A: These arent my sites

B: I was posting the Bullshit that they used as a disclaimer against this CP shit.

I am 120% against child porn.

I understand the flamings and am not mad. I too would be pitching in if somoen defended thier CP sites.

Just to clarify, i disagree with this.
And dont confuse me with
Alex(XXX-L Cash)

These are not my sites.

Webby 02-23-2005 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunky
Why do all the scum seem to come from Russia? :disgust

Oddly they don't spunky - tho it may look like that as far as websites are concerned.

A number of these sites are owned/operated by people living in various places - Amsterdam, London, New York, LA etc. Some of them also own the processing facilities.. often in Moscow. (One was closed down recently when their banks got to know the nature of the biz).

Sure, there is a Russian element to this shit, but the faces behind several operations are "westerners" using Russia as a cover on the basis that law enforcement in the EU and US won't tread there.

This CP shit is so damned common - it's your next door neighbor or the local teacher or trash collector - it has no social/class boundaries. I was stunned when I end up getting an "education" into the areas of CP and child abuse - I never knew there was so much of it. The damage it causes is enormous.

BTW.. GFY ain't without a touch of this either :-) There have been characters in here who were/are linked to others in Holland and also in the UK - the UK link involved serious shit with specific pedos being questioned about kids who disappeared off the face of the planet. These people are *evil*, have no regard for kids whatsoever and flock together with a common interest - they need locked up permanently.

V_RocKs 02-24-2005 12:00 AM

As a commical side note... Alex is not Alex XX-CASH... he just picked the wrong day to change his nick to his real name.

mind 02-24-2005 06:12 AM

End of story:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...2&page=4&pp=50

http://www.prodesignlab.com/clients/queens/q1.jpg

nastyking 02-24-2005 06:25 AM

here is a pic of that NASA guy

Vlad
NASA ([email protected])

http://www.xxl-cash.com/i/team/nasa.jpg

more pics of the CP crew: http://www.xxl-cash.com/about_us.html.en

:mad: :mad:

Shaddam IV 02-24-2005 06:36 AM

The whois info is fake.
Report them to the Registrar and ICANN and they'll get shut down.

NASA 02-24-2005 06:59 AM

Alex [XXL-Cash] Please reply

Alex[XXL-Cash] 02-24-2005 07:04 AM

Models Entertainment Agency LLC (USA) doing business as XXL-Cash.com
owns websites VirginsPhotos.com and Virgins-Art.com since February
2004. XXL-Cash.com doesn't own or operate any other adult-oriented
websites.

All our models are older than 18 y.o. Custodian of records is located
in our office in USA. To get an address - please email us.

XXL-Cash doesn't work with any kind of underage content and is a
member of ASACP. We don't send spam or support any other unsolicited
emails.

Any connections to underage sites you can find or found in google.com
could exist due to technical support service we use. Some emails
belong to technical guys who helped us to host our sites in dedicated
servers.

If you have any other requests about legal aspects of our business
don't hesitate to email ASACP or our abuse department directly:
[email protected]. All information are welcome. You notifications
will help us to resolve similar problems in the future.


[whois.directi.com]
Registration Service Provided By: ESTDOMAINS
Contact: [email protected]
Website: http://www.estdomains.com
Abuse Desk Email Address: [email protected]

Domain Name: XXL-CASH.COM

Registrant:
Models Entertainment Agency LLC (MEA Models)
Customer Support ([email protected])
723 S. Casino Center Bldv., 2nd Floor
Las-Vegas
NV,89138
US
Tel. +1.7029324078

Creation Date: 16-Feb-2004
Expiration Date: 16-Feb-2006

Domain servers in listed order:
ns.xxl-cash.com
ns1.xxl-cash.com


Administrative Contact:
Models Entertainment Agency LLC (MEA Models)
Customer Support ([email protected])
723 S. Casino Center Bldv., 2nd Floor
Las-Vegas
NV,89138
US
Tel. +1.7029324078

Technical Contact:
Models Entertainment Agency LLC (MEA Models)
Customer Support ([email protected])
723 S. Casino Center Bldv., 2nd Floor
Las-Vegas
NV,89138
US
Tel. +1.7029324078

Billing Contact:
Models Entertainment Agency LLC (MEA Models)
Customer Support ([email protected])
723 S. Casino Center Bldv., 2nd Floor
Las-Vegas
NV,89138
US
Tel. +1.7029324078

Status:ACTIVE

nastyking 02-24-2005 07:11 AM

great. you changed the email in your whois records. that makes you innocent.

Alex[XXL-Cash] 02-24-2005 07:17 AM

[email protected] has been transferred to us together with the domain.

nastyking 02-24-2005 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex[XXL-Cash]
[email protected] has been transferred to us together with the domain.

NASA ([email protected]) is one of your owners/employees

Domain Name: BD-SISTERS.XXXCOM <-- CP site
Name Server: NS.NASA-DNS.COM
Name Server: NS1.NASA-DNS.COM

Domain Name: SCHOOLPASSION.XXXCOM <-- CP site
Name Server: NS.NASA-DNS.COM
Name Server: NS1.NASA-DNS.COM

http://www.xxl-cash.com/i/team/nasa.jpg

Alex[XXL-Cash] 02-24-2005 07:23 AM

What about http://www.nasa.gov ?

nastyking 02-24-2005 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex[XXL-Cash]
What about http://www.nasa.gov ?

that's all you can say about it?

there is enough proof in this thread to make everybody realize that you guys own CP (or "underage art") sites ...

i hope you fuckers rot in jail :mad: :mad:

loveithard 02-24-2005 07:35 AM

They are running their own "model" agency in the Ukraine. See for yourself:

http://www.mea-models.biz als know as http://www.lokimodels.com

also look at the registration info for queensoferoticteens.com !!!

Registration Service Provided By: ESTDOMAINS
Contact: [email protected]
Website: http://www.estdomains.com
Abuse Desk Email Address: [email protected]

Domain Name: queensoferoticteens.com

Expiry Date: 15-Feb-2006
Days Left for Expiry: 355
Record Creation Date: 15-Feb-2005
Domain Status: Active


Domain servers in listed order:
ns.nasa-dns.com
ns1.nasa-dns.com


RegistrantContact Details
Name Customer Support
Company Models Entertainment Agency LLC (MEA Models)
Email Address [email protected]
Address 723 S. Casino Center Bldv., 2nd Floor
City Las-Vegas
State NV
Zip 89138
Country US
Tel No. +1.7029324078


AdministrativeContactDetails
Name Customer Support
Company Models Entertainment Agency LLC (MEA Models)
Email Address [email protected]
Address 723 S. Casino Center Bldv., 2nd Floor
City Las-Vegas
State NV
Zip 89138
Country US
Tel No. +1.7029324078


TechnicalContactDetails
Name Customer Support
Company Models Entertainment Agency LLC (MEA Models)
Email Address [email protected]
Address 723 S. Casino Center Bldv., 2nd Floor
City Las-Vegas
State NV
Zip 89138
Country US
Tel No. +1.7029324078


BillingContactDetails
Name Customer Support
Company Models Entertainment Agency LLC (MEA Models)
Email Address [email protected]
Address 723 S. Casino Center Bldv., 2nd Floor
City Las-Vegas
State NV
Zip 89138
Country US
Tel No. +1.7029324078

Same Nameservers as the one used for the childporn sites:

Domain Name: SCHOOLPASSION.COM
Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
Referral URL: http://domainhelp.tucows.com
Name Server: NS.NASA-DNS.COM
Name Server: NS1.NASA-DNS.COM
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 11-aug-2004
Creation Date: 06-aug-2003
Expiration Date: 06-aug-2005

And Nasa-DNS.com is assigned to know childporn company BD-Company.

All they post is total bullshit. They are just using some US front company to cover their russian childporn business.


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