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Old 02-22-2005, 02:27 AM   #1
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Why the fuck am I getting #1 on Yahoo like a motherfucker

And not even the top 50th of Google?

I am trying my hardest, am listed, but it's not picking up my keywords.

How much does it cost for good SEO?
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Old 02-22-2005, 02:30 AM   #2
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Be happy and dont complain. There's alot of public docs that will answer your google questions.
There are firms out there who do seo work @ $200-500/Hour
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Old 02-22-2005, 02:31 AM   #3
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yep, google is tough to crack
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Old 02-22-2005, 02:35 AM   #4
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i got my pr2 on google by not even trying to optimize for them. I found out and try to get pr1 now im at pr7
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All the public docs say around the same thing, am following things as best I can.

The sites I am trying to get listed ARE farly new though, less than a month.

But I see others (around things like the recent Paris scandal) getting high listings in no time...

(no, these sites I have have nothing to do with Paris)
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thats because google is a hundred times faster than you think it is
post a sample url here and I will give you 1 free hint just because I am feeling nice today
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It's not a new site is it?

Google's sandbox is anywhere from 5 - 12 months.
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Old 02-22-2005, 03:46 AM   #9
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I heard that theres no such thing as a google sandbox. And ive seen people get around it.
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yep, google is tough to crack
I would say tough to keep good and cracked to much.

The problem is all the cracks are hitting them faster then the real sites can be seen.

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...GGLD:en&q=dwhs

5th link

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We present dwhs web host 2b review. dwhs web host 2b review. ... wherwith the our Trojan
home; best offer dwhs web host 2b review. dwhs web host 2b review comp.
dwhs-web-host-2b-review.fc019tq.info/ - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

It's not even real just a re-direct to grab our traffic.
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Old 02-22-2005, 03:47 AM   #11
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yahoo focuses more on onpage optimization
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I would say tough to keep good and cracked to much.

The problem is all the cracks are hitting them faster then the real sites can be seen.

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...GGLD:en&q=dwhs

5th link

We present Dwhs web host 2b review
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It's not even real just a re-direct to grab our traffic.
Turn off javascript and try going to that page again.
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Ummm if there's no such thing then how do people get around it.

(its really either one or the other)
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Ummm if there's no such thing then how do people get around it.

(its really either one or the other)
Well from my experience it does seem that there is a sandbox. However Ive heard many places that its a myth.

As far as getting around it, ive seen sites that were up for less then a month dominate 10,000,000+ keywords
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google SITS on my forums all day long

i can make a new site link it and it will show up in google within 3 days MAX

google is a strange beast


i think its because google sees my site updateing every minute, I bet it does the same for GFY.com
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I'm sorry I can't share the links on GFY, but the niches are:

General Hardcore
Anal
Medical Fetish
Cam Girls
Teens/softcore lesbian

Yes the sites are new - just about a month old, and are PRIME SE food as far as I know...

Basically wondering if maybe I'm being impatient and Google takes longer than Yahoo or if maybe I am just doing something wrong.
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google is the fastest index engine out, thats why they are so popular.

and heheh medical fetish, i am going to have to type that one in, im a little curious
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I'm sorry I can't share the links on GFY, but the niches are:

General Hardcore
Anal
Medical Fetish
Cam Girls
Teens/softcore lesbian

Yes the sites are new - just about a month old, and are PRIME SE food as far as I know...

Basically wondering if maybe I'm being impatient and Google takes longer than Yahoo or if maybe I am just doing something wrong.
Hmm i never had anyone push medical fetish traffic to our extender
Im sure that would actaully do pretty well
Maybe you can try it out we pay 200$ per sale for our extenders
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Hmm i never had anyone push medical fetish traffic to our extender
Im sure that would actaully do pretty well
Maybe you can try it out we pay 200$ per sale for our extenders
I just might if I can ever get into google correctly lmao.

But seriously, I was under the impression penis pills/machines/etc. only did good on big-dick or hardcore sites where the surfer would get envy.
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I just might if I can ever get into google correctly lmao.

But seriously, I was under the impression penis pills/machines/etc. only did good on big-dick or hardcore sites where the surfer would get envy.
They do pretty good on all type of sites, in my experiance they will do a little better on big cock sites since the guys visiting those sites are obsessed with well, big cocks.
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I just might if I can ever get into google correctly lmao.

But seriously, I was under the impression penis pills/machines/etc. only did good on big-dick or hardcore sites where the surfer would get envy.
they do great on those sites no doubt but guys who are into that medical stuff may look at our product and understand how it would worka nd realize that this is a product that would truely work
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just do a deny on 66.249.66 it will solve all your problems LOL




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I also start to think you can't get good rankings for both at the same time ...
I had good rankings in Google, when I lost them, I started to have good rankings in Yahoo ...
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What year is it again?
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All the public docs say around the same thing, am following things as best I can.

The sites I am trying to get listed ARE farly new though, less than a month.

But I see others (around things like the recent Paris scandal) getting high listings in no time...

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one of the biggest problem is dupe content...
icq me...

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I have no time right now.
if you want me to help ya at the beginning of the next week I could hook. not sure which data though...
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OOohhh no, not gonna fall for the Google Priority bullshit AGAIN!

I got screwed on that the last time when it was a hot topic - saw an infomercial on the FOOD network that offered SE secrets along with a package of fresh carrots for only 99999999.99

Spent my life savings on that, made a donation thread on GFY, got to be real familiar with Ebay.

Never again with the Google Priority ID.

(Though I only have 3 liscenses anyway)
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It's the opposite for me.... #3 on Google and not ranked at all as far as I can tell on Yahoo!
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I also start to think you can't get good rankings for both at the same time ...
I had good rankings in Google, when I lost them, I started to have good rankings in Yahoo ...
This same thing has happened to me....very frustrating. Last year when I jumped on the Paris band wagon I was dominating google with many of her "key" terms....and alot of my other sites were ranked high in Google for the terms I wanted. Then when Xpays got the Paris term banned or whatever from google, all my sites disappeared out of thier index or went to page 3 million or so...lol After that though Yahoo starting picking me up better then ever, I still am not in google and even let all my Paris domains expire moths ago to see if that would help. All I can think of is that they blocked all my IP's but I am not sure how to get them to let me back in
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