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There are two different kinds of hackers in the world.

One gets in and is happy with information. The other gets in and has to either profit monitarely or otherwise profit socially (deface)...

The ones that get in without you knowing, you will never know about. So long as they don't fuck with anything, the company who wrote the software will never mention it. Just tell you and update is available or auto update if that is your setup. Most porn hackers are a mixture of both. They get in, they get the password files, they get out and you never hear from them again. What you do hear from is the customers who are wondering why their account is blocked and who also don't appreciate it when you assume they must have traded their password with someone else.

Its all about getting the standard going.

Yes, but lets not get into a big hacker/cracker - whitehat/blackhat hacker discussion.

All I'm saying is that anyone choosing to use an open source application for their affiliate program would loose my business. And I would guess they would loose the business of most of the people who plan to stay in this business for a long time.

I'm all for the TGP application. Although I'm not into TGP's I can see how it could be a valuable learning tool for new webmasters wanting to get into the business without having to invest a lot of money.

This is a valid point. Although i am very pro open source and i dont consider hackers any more of a problem on opensource software i would have to agree that webmasters would be less inclined to use a program running an opensource software. Why? because people are stupid, sheeplike creatures who are scared of things they dont understand. Therefore they would be less inclined to step into the world of open source because of the popular misgivings related to opensource.

great idea..go the tgp...mortenb is right..people wont trust opensource affilate software..they wont trust you to write it and they wont trust programs using it

That is not what I am saying.. Fuck it, I'm tired. I'm going to bed.

Btw. I understand the open source concept perfectly fine. I have worked on several open source projects over the years.

by your logic linux should be a hell of a lot less secure than windows but there are more security holes in windows than in linux.

Not only that but security holes get fixed faster because if you suddenly start to see a problem with your software you can have one of your developers fix the problem right away, instead of just reporting it to the company and waiting until their developers can get around to fixing the problem.

I am sure there will some people who will look at the open source affiliate program as a cheap way to start a program, but any company that who would be willing to pay 20- 35 K for a good affiliate program software would also be willing to spend like 5-10K haveing a qualified program review the source code of the application and make sure there are no bugs that could be exploited.

The key point is with an open source application people could write custom modules that will allow those affiliate to gain access to additional source of services.

Reasons why I don't agree that open source is all that great, and that some of you poster's remarks are lame in here:
1. WINDOWS has more copies distributed than Linux
2. ASP.NET is used for business applications more than PHP
3. Microsoft Office is used for documents more than OpenOffice
4. SourceForges project count is up to 95,910, with the vast majority of them unfinished.

This industry is not cromprised of a fan-based ezine sites; it is comprised of businessmen who are treating this as a business to claim their share of the billion-dollar pie. Any company who would pay 20-35K for a good affiliate program wouldn't necessarily pay 5-10K for an addon to or reworking of an open source system. They want exactly what they're paying for. Otherwise, they'd be outsourcing to India.

If there were dozens of free softwares out there, the internet would get even more congested with *hopeless* newbs (not to be confused with people that can actually make it into the biz), which give this industry a bad rep -- it's not a business for them, they're willing to do stupid shit that makes the industry look bad. This is a business for me. Software development is what I do for a living. You come in here and offer a program for free, that I (and any other programmer on here) would offer for tens of thousands of dollars: expect to get flamed and harassed by the men and women who work hard behind the scenes to bring the end-PAYING-user some eye candy.

Because commercial closed-source affiliate software has never been cracked or been found to support shaving?

Well written code is secure regardless of the source being open or closed. Badly written code will be cracked regardless of the source being open or closed. Would you rather trust yourself to check if the code is well written or the assurance of some marketing shill?

notice no replies from sickbeatz

obviously didnt think it thru much did ya mate lol

:thumbsup :thumbsup

I would said TGP at first... but I really don't like both of them, why would you do that?
I mean, anyone has the money to buy the software. I love GNU, but ADULT GNU??? That's stupid.

Gideongallery hit the nail on the head here - an OS trade script is MUCH needed and would be a truly excellent idea :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

you really don't understand open source do you
1. There are more windows DESKTOPs than linux DESKTOPs
As microsoft pointed out in their anti trust case if you include all software , server, mainframe embedded devices windows represents 7.56% of the market place.

MORE THAN 1/2 of that is open source (GNU all open source including BSD licienes)

on the internet APACHE (open source) exceeds windows by a huge margin

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/02/overallc.gif

2. ASP.net is a frame work not a language, multiple languages can used in it including PHP so of course more application are coded in ASP.net frame work. ASP.net is equal to CGI (common gateway interface). And btw more perl code is created than ASP.NET enable visual c, visual basic code combined.

3. Irrelevant who case, the introduction of open source software like open office has reduce the price of office pro for end users, increase compatiblity with open standards like xml so. Remember Microsoft has vendor lock in with their office application, WHICH DOES NOT EXIST IN EITHER EXAMPLES given. The same thing will happen if an open source affiliate program or tgp software is release (assumeing he can get it within 50% of parity with commerical grade software)

4. And this proves you don't understand the concept of open source, commercial software is released after an alpha , beta cycle. Open source is release at the beginning of the developer cycle. The more people who want to use the software the more developers who will be improving the product.
In a close source enviroment if i find an affiliate program that 15 /20 features i want i have to wait for company who owns the code to determine that it is profitable to add those features. In an open source program i can add those 5 features myself right way. I get to decide when the features get added based on their profitablity to me alone.

I have a TGP script that is 95% done that I wouldn't mind donating to the project.. you can contact me on icq 50986053

whats the most used (by far)....

Hackers target the mostly common used stuff not minoritys ;)

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/02/overallc.gif

then explain why IIS has more security holes than APACHE.