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dig420 · 02-16-2005, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

That is what the British intel reported to there PM...so it was not a lie.

dumbfuck, the whole world knows this administration only wanted intel that slanted the way they wanted it to, except you and other dumbfuck conservatives.

Hey did you ever find a friend?

http://www.bartcop.com/libmedia.htm -- chew on that, Waylon.

titmowse · 02-16-2005, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

That is what the British intel reported to there PM...so it was not a lie.

The CIA suspected those British documents were forgeries and that's why they sent Joe Wilson to Niger. Wilson found no truth to the documents and said so BEFORE Bush's SOTU speech.

The documents were indeed forgeries:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell...fel-162426.htm

lie

theking · 02-16-2005, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

dumbfuck, the whole world knows this administration only wanted intel that slanted the way they wanted it to, except you and other dumbfuck conservatives.

Hey did you ever find a friend?

http://www.bartcop.com/libmedia.htm -- chew on that, Waylon.

He may have wanted slanted intel...but he did not get slanted intel...at least according to the reports made by the Congressional investigating committees...and the report made by the independent investigating committee. So who is credible here? You...a fucking druggie pornographer...the lowest of the low in US society...or the learned men and women on the Committees? Don't bother to answer Danny boy.

directfiesta · 02-16-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

Blah...blah...blah. BTW...was it the media where you learned about any un-accounted for $$$ or was it one of your inside sources within the US Government? .

Thanks for making my point : you heard and read about the UN scandal, the bad Kofi AnnaN, AND SO ON

But not of this mere 9 billion ...

You are such a bunch of suckers.........

Monday, January 31, 2005 Posted: 0412 GMT (1212 HKT)
{b}Audit: U.S. lost track of $9 billion in Iraq funds{/b}

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Nearly $9 billion of money spent on Iraqi reconstruction is unaccounted for because of inefficiencies and bad management, according to a watchdog report published Sunday.

An inspector general's report said the U.S.-led administration that ran Iraq until June 2004 is unable to account for the funds.

"Severe inefficiencies and poor management" by the Coalition Provisional Authority has left auditors with no guarantee the money was properly used," the report said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/me...dit/index.html

directfiesta · 02-16-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

That is what the British intel reported to there PM...so it was not a lie.

The document Dan Rather based his claim of Bush missing his service was supplied by somebody else also ...

Sp, what is the difference ... ( aside from dead people )....

Go get drunk, you will make more sense.

Rich · 02-16-2005, 08:23 PM

So, I guess the answer to my question, " Can idiots still claim that the US media is "liberal"?", is yes, idiots can and will continue spitting out this line until Rush tells them not to.

Thanks guys.

dig420 · 02-16-2005, 08:23 PM

what's also hilarious is that the Bushies are going after pornographers again - and you shouldn't be here if you're not one, you pathetic crippled old fuck theking - for fictitious depictions of rape and torture while they're fighting for the right to do it in real life.

FunForOne · 02-16-2005, 08:23 PM

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."

[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."

dig420 · 02-16-2005, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich

So, I guess the answer to my question, " Can idiots still claim that the US media is "liberal"?", is yes, idiots can and will continue spitting out this line until Rush tells them not to.

Thanks guys.

yes, there's nothing you can say and nothing Bush can do that will get thru to these people. The scary thing is there are so many of them.

directfiesta · 02-16-2005, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

he scary thing is there are so many of them.

cause is inbreed ...

Rich · 02-16-2005, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

yes, there's nothing you can say and nothing Bush can do that will get thru to these people. The scary thing is there are so many of them.

yeah they've really come out of the woodwork recently.

theking · 02-16-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."

[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."

Hmm...sounds similar to the rhetoric that was used when the Congress...during President Clinton's term of office...passed a resoultion calling for the removal of Saddam and the Baathist party. The US Congress took away the previlige from both Presidents to be the first to call for the overthrow of the Iraqi Government.

Pipeline Q · 02-16-2005, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

Rather retired as somewhat of a self punishment, to lessen the chance of him going to prison for the felony he committed.

Rather's retirement had been in the works many months before the fake document story even came about. I think he first notified CBS about a year before that in fact, but the official date was just recently set. It had nothing at all to do with the fake documents.

FunForOne · 02-16-2005, 08:33 PM

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Seems like one political party likes talk more than action. I belive that sums up the lack of recent success of the liberal democrat party despite the obvious media slant.

hagbard · 02-16-2005, 08:33 PM

I heard about this on liberal NPR on tuesday evening. I saw it on my liberal local NBC affiliate that evening. It has 4x appeared on drudge report (conservative) It aired on the 14th on our local CBS as well. I'm not sure where the right wing conspiracy media blackout is here...

dig420 · 02-16-2005, 08:36 PM

yeah but Clinton didn't spend 100's of billions of dollars and young American lives to contain Saddam, did he? He did it thru diplomacy.

Also let me remind you that it was the incompetence of Bush that allowed 9-11 to happen, it's well documented that his incoming administration had absolutely no interest in the counter-terrorism.

Rich · 02-16-2005, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

yeah but Clinton didn't spend 100's of billions of dollars and young American lives to contain Saddam, did he? He did it thru diplomacy.

Also let me remind you that it was the incompetence of Bush that allowed 9-11 to happen, it's well documented that his incoming administration had absolutely no interest in the counter-terrorism.

pfft, details. What's more important, facts, or a thousand talking heads bobbing in unison? This is America we're talking about dammit, facts only get in the way. Rhetoric sounds better.

titmowse · 02-16-2005, 08:46 PM

And we come full circle.

How did a male escort with no journalism experience -except for a $50.00 seminar- get access to a CIA memo?

"TN: An internal government memo prepared by U.S. intelligence personnel details a meeting in early 2002 where your wife, a member of the agency for clandestine service working on Iraqi weapons issues, suggested that you could be sent to investigate the reports. Do you dispute that?"

--Jeff Gannon for Talon News

http://web.archive.org/web/200312022...nterview.shtml

FunForOne · 02-16-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

yeah but Clinton didn't spend 100's of billions of dollars and young American lives to contain Saddam, did he? He did it thru diplomacy.

Also let me remind you that it was the incompetence of Bush that allowed 9-11 to happen, it's well documented that his incoming administration had absolutely no interest in the counter-terrorism.

I'm not sure you understand.

Clinton threw a bomb, but he didn't do anything.

Clinton's own guy, Dick Morris, said that Clinton wanted to do something but he was afraid any military action would bring up his draft dodging trip up north. Aint that great, he let America get weeker by balancing the budget on the backs of the mlitary because he was worried about his reputation.

The 9/11 attacks were not the first attack on America, they were not even the first attack on the world trade center.

theking · 02-16-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

yeah but Clinton didn't spend 100's of billions of dollars and young American lives to contain Saddam, did he? He did it thru diplomacy.

Also let me remind you that it was the incompetence of Bush that allowed 9-11 to happen, it's well documented that his incoming administration had absolutely no interest in the counter-terrorism.

But of course one could reasonably argue that the President who served two terms...while not once but at least twice...a statement made by Bin Laden... that was made known world wide...officially declaring war on the United States of America and then proceeded to attack the CONSUS as well as American assets around the world...stood by and did virtually nothing...may just be the one "that allowed 9-11 to happen". In your drug induced burned out brain...I do not expect you to agree...Danny boy...so no response needed...thank you very much.

Robatolla · 02-16-2005, 08:48 PM

dig man your right!not only were we attacked on 9-11but the whole country has been duped and lied to. but with the cooperation of the media many many people actually believe we belong in iraq and don't even try to tell a republican we should'nt be there or they treat you like a fool.there is no diplomacy with republicans.

hagbard · 02-16-2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

dumbfuck, the whole world knows this administration only wanted intel that slanted the way they wanted it to, except you and other dumbfuck conservatives.

Hey did you ever find a friend?

http://www.bartcop.com/libmedia.htm -- chew on that, Waylon.

Chew on what? Someone's self professed rant? Wild speculation about what someone that neither of you know would do? Try typing in Anti bush books into google

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...568639-7302259

first result. dozens of books out there. There are 5220 results for "anti bush books" Type "anti clinton books" 358 results there. These books are not written by some idiots in a basement who wander around looking for a publisher who will touch such a volitile topic. These are people who are selling them like mad and are being advertised through SOME media (Since the media is SOOO conservative as you claim, where are these people getting their ads?)

Just shut up and relax a bit. The dems are a bunch of whining bitches who can't win a fight and REFUSE to fix their own problems. Before you bitch at me like I'm sure you're about to; I am voting clinton in 2008 and I dont care of the fucking pope is running against her. I LOVE the dem party historically and if you would all stop the goddam finger pointing and look inward for your problems perhaps you could get back on top.

good luck if that url is all you haveto prove your point.

FunForOne · 02-16-2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich

pfft, details. What's more important, facts, or a thousand talking heads bobbing in unison? This is America we're talking about dammit, facts only get in the way. Rhetoric sounds better.

the irony of your statement is that it is 100% rhetoric.

I love when Irony bites people in the ass!

dig420 · 02-16-2005, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

But of course one could reasonably argue that the President who served two terms...while not once but at least twice...a statement made by Bin Laden... that was made known world wide...officially declaring war on the United States of America and then proceeded to attack the CONSUS as well as American assets around the world...stood by and did virtually nothing...may just be the one "that allowed 9-11 to happen". In your drug induced burned out brain...I do not expect you to agree...Danny boy...so no response needed...thank you very much.

you can beg me not to respond wetbrain, but it isn't going to happen til I get tired of fucking you, so just lie back and enjoy it.

Clinton had a vigorous and successful anti-terrorism apparatus in place, the Bushites wanted NOTHING to do with it when they came into office. Their priority was pornography. 9-11 slapped them in the face and all of a sudden the isolationists realized the rest of the world wasn't going to go away just because they didn't want to deal with them.

Your President is an idiot. An incompetent. This isn't my opinion, he's failed at everything he's ever done. All you fucking Pabst Blue Ribbon drinkers identify with him though, and with his general anti-intellectualism and simplistic thinking and we, your betters, are stuck with the consequences.

This is a great time in America for ignorant rednecks. I hope you enjoy it to the fullest before the bombs start falling.

Robatolla · 02-16-2005, 08:54 PM

really most politicians and governments are a bunch of fags,even the things designed keep a handle on these things(n korea,iran syria,iraq,afghan.,)oh shit did the tsunami even happen.fuck this shit pisses me off

FunForOne · 02-16-2005, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

you can beg me not to respond wetbrain, but it isn't going to happen til I get tired of fucking you, so just lie back and enjoy it.

Clinton had a vigorous and successful anti-terrorism apparatus in place, the Bushites wanted NOTHING to do with it when they came into office. Their priority was pornography. 9-11 slapped them in the face and all of a sudden the isolationists realized the rest of the world wasn't going to go away just because they didn't want to deal with them.

Your President is an idiot. An incompetent. This isn't my opinion, he's failed at everything he's ever done. All you fucking Pabst Blue Ribbon drinkers identify with him though, and with his general anti-intellectualism and simplistic thinking and we, your betters, are stuck with the consequences.

This is a great time in America for ignorant rednecks. I hope you enjoy it to the fullest before the bombs start falling.

cant argue with that.

Give your money to Michael Moore and sit back and bitch while the conversatives compete with each during politcal races from now on. Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and every rapper has prayed for peace in the middle east.

the process has started, nothing a democrat and do about it for a long time to come.

dig420 · 02-16-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hagbard

Chew on what? Someone's self professed rant? Wild speculation about what someone that neither of you know would do? Try typing in Anti bush books into google

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...568639-7302259

first result. dozens of books out there. There are 5220 results for "anti bush books" Type "anti clinton books" 358 results there. These books are not written by some idiots in a basement who wander around looking for a publisher who will touch such a volitile topic. These are people who are selling them like mad and are being advertised through SOME media (Since the media is SOOO conservative as you claim, where are these people getting their ads?)

Just shut up and relax a bit. The dems are a bunch of whining bitches who can't win a fight and REFUSE to fix their own problems. Before you bitch at me like I'm sure you're about to; I am voting clinton in 2008 and I dont care of the fucking pope is running against her. I LOVE the dem party historically and if you would all stop the goddam finger pointing and look inward for your problems perhaps you could get back on top.

good luck if that url is all you haveto prove your point.

There's more brilliance and creativity in two lines of that article than you'll ever demonstrate in your entire life, I don't care how you're voting for. To deny it is like sticking your hand over your eyes and thinking nobody can see you.

Historically, I hate the Dems. They were the shitty party until the Dixie Democrats broke off and took their southern fried hatred and misogyny over the Republicans, where they're enjoying absolute control of their new party. Yep, the Dems have been pussies, afraid and too ethical to fight back against Republican sleazy tactics in the recent past, but I think you're about to see a change in that modus operandi with the emergence of Howard Dean in the top spot of the party heirarchy.

Mr.Fiction · 02-16-2005, 08:57 PM

The right wing contols the U.S. media.

If someone tells you otherwise, it's usually because they are brainwashed by that very media.

There are a lot of brainwashed idiots out there and you could not convince most of them of the truth because they prefer the brainwashing.

Robatolla · 02-16-2005, 08:58 PM

we are in a steady decline towards disaster and the wool is being pulled over everyones eyes.amaericans are just dying to be the ones that don't take no shit,but these countries we are dealing with are hellbent on the US and have dealt with war as daily life this isn't shit if it is in the name of islam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Robatolla · 02-16-2005, 09:00 PM

brainwashing is a perfect phrase for it.just like religion is brainwashing.this white house seems awfully religious.

FunForOne · 02-16-2005, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Robatolla

we are in a steady decline towards disaster and the wool is being pulled over everyones eyes.amaericans are just dying to be the ones that don't take no shit,but these countries we are dealing with are hellbent on the US and have dealt with war as daily life this isn't shit if it is in the name of islam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it your opinion that a muslim nation can beat the american military? (assuming the french army is not involved)

theking · 02-16-2005, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

you can beg me not to respond wetbrain, but it isn't going to happen til I get tired of fucking you, so just lie back and enjoy it.

Clinton had a vigorous and successful anti-terrorism apparatus in place, the Bushites wanted NOTHING to do with it when they came into office. Their priority was pornography. 9-11 slapped them in the face and all of a sudden the isolationists realized the rest of the world wasn't going to go away just because they didn't want to deal with them.

Your President is an idiot. An incompetent. This isn't my opinion, he's failed at everything he's ever done. All you fucking Pabst Blue Ribbon drinkers identify with him though, and with his general anti-intellectualism and simplistic thinking and we, your betters, are stuck with the consequences.

This is a great time in America for ignorant rednecks. I hope you enjoy it to the fullest before the bombs start falling.

Predictable nonsensical rant made a dumb ass druggie. President Clinton may have had an "anti-terrorism apparatus"...and he may have even had some success if he would have used it...but he didn't. He did have opportunities but chose...for whatever his reasons not to take them...thus 9/11. BTW...President Bush is my country's President but he is not President by any choice of mine. Not the first election and not this last election...but of course you have been told this multiple times. I don't expect you to retain any information longer than a couple of hours..."this is your brain on drugs"...Danny boy.

Robatolla · 02-16-2005, 09:02 PM

maybe not one but 5?that worries me!!!!i know we kick ass.but do you realize how far the muslim sentiment reaches.

FunForOne · 02-16-2005, 09:02 PM

when you people get older and wiser, you will think a little different. The democrats targets young people searching for someone to believe. If they aren't strongwilled, they get them. Usually those people grow out of it, some dont, ie. hippies.

dig420 · 02-16-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

Is it your opinion that a muslim nation can beat the american military? (assuming the french army is not involved)

The Vietnamese did. The Chinese did it in Korea. Bush might have known something about that if he hadn't gone AWOL, the fucking coward.

What makes you think they have to beat us in a pitched battle? They're tearing our ass up from the inside out, inspiring brilliant policy like TIPS and the terror alert system, the proposed and current curtailing of our civil rights and the ability of the invididual to be protected from govt intrusion and surveillance. If they win it's not going to be on a battlefield, it'll be when our society is just as closed and ignorant as theirs.

Robatolla · 02-16-2005, 09:05 PM

NWO is what it is creating and that will be what effects everyone even the rednecks!!

FunForOne · 02-16-2005, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Robatolla

maybe not one but 5?that worries me!!!!i know we kick ass.but do you realize how far the muslim sentiment reaches.

Our technology and weapon systems give us the advantage. The only threat to face our country and our allies countries are fantatic muslems being supporting by countries with those weapons... ie. Iraq

FunForOne · 02-16-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

The Vietnamese did. The Chinese did it in Korea. Bush might have known something about that if he hadn't gone AWOL, the fucking coward.

What makes you think they have to beat us in a pitched battle? They're tearing our ass up from the inside out, inspiring brilliant policy like TIPS and the terror alert system, the proposed and current curtailing of our civil rights and the ability of the invididual to be protected from govt intrusion and surveillance. If they win it's not going to be on a battlefield, it'll be when our society is just as closed and ignorant as theirs.

the more you type, the more stupid you sound

Robatolla · 02-16-2005, 09:08 PM

how dare you talk about Bush POTSMOKER.Why don't we all just chug some pabst and kick the dog!oh ya and maybe run the country for the people!

dig420 · 02-16-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

when you people get older and wiser, you will think a little different. The democrats targets young people searching for someone to believe. If they aren't strongwilled, they get them. Usually those people grow out of it, some dont, ie. hippies.

Is that right? Well then why don't you tell me what the Republicans stand for.

Are they free trade or isolationist? Depends which Repub you ask.
Are they for states rights or increased federal power? See the Patriot Act for the real answer.
Are they strict constitutionalists or should the constitution be amended to stop hippie flag burners?

The Repubs have NO central philosophy. They have no overriding and clear goals. They'll say whatever they need to say to fold in any demographic they can, whether it be the racists, survivalists, religous fundamentalists or any other group that feels put down and ridiculed by them thar snooty collitch perfessors and other people that just think they know so much. The only common thread running thru all Republican constituencies is that they're base and vulgar people.

Robatolla · 02-16-2005, 09:09 PM

what has he said that is so stupid it's everything that is really HAPPENING?

FunForOne · 02-16-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Robatolla

how dare you talk about Bush POTSMOKER.Why don't we all just chug some pabst and kick the dog!oh ya and maybe run the country for the people!

sounds like you were describing Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter.

30 years and two failures.

directfiesta · 02-16-2005, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by theking
Blah...blah...blah. BTW...was it the media where you learned about any un-accounted for $$$ or was it one of your inside sources within the US Government? .

So, nothing to say to the 9 billion .... LOL

Still think I have inside sources with the US Gov.... or maybe a tinfoil hat ...

Want to see a copy of a report to Bush about Al-Quaeda.... in January 2001... He did fuck all ... Go find it... Maybe I will post it tomorrow ( 3 pages) so that you can wipe your smelly handicapped ass.

dig420 · 02-16-2005, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

the more you type, the more stupid you sound

Sharp retort Einstein.

I know you are, but what am I? Are you going to tell me I have cooties next?

dig420 · 02-16-2005, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

sounds like you were describing Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter.

30 years and two failures.

yeah that balanced budget thing, peace in Ireland, the most prosperous and peaceful period in our ENTIRE NATIONAL HISTORY.

That Clinton, he sure was a fuckup.

Robatolla · 02-16-2005, 09:12 PM

the American people mean nothing to this adminstration!PERIOD! and thats what it's supposed to be all about!

FunForOne · 02-16-2005, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

Is that right? Well then why don't you tell me what the Republicans stand for.

Are they free trade or isolationist? Depends which Repub you ask.
Are they for states rights or increased federal power? See the Patriot Act for the real answer.
Are they strict constitutionalists or should the constitution be amended to stop hippie flag burners?

The Repubs have NO central philosophy. They have no overriding and clear goals. They'll say whatever they need to say to fold in any demographic they can, whether it be the racists, survivalists, religous fundamentalists or any other group that feels put down and ridiculed by them thar snooty collitch perfessors and other people that just think they know so much. The only common thread running thru all Republican constituencies is that they're base and vulgar people.

That sounded like the transcripts of the pillow talk between Wild Bill and thong babe monica in the white house oval office.

"OH baby, Mr President, tell me how disgusting those republicans are. Ouch, the cigar hurts my pussy"

dig420 · 02-16-2005, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

That sounded like the transcripts of the pillow talk between Wild Bill and thong babe monica in the white house oval office.

"OH baby, Mr President, tell me how disgusting those republicans are. Ouch, the cigar hurts my pussy"

I can see you've exhausted your intellectual repertoire. I'll go play World of Warcraft now so you can masturbate thinking of your brilliant demolition of my ridiculous liberal ideas.

theking · 02-16-2005, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

The Vietnamese did. The Chinese did it in Korea. Bush might have known something about that if he hadn't gone AWOL, the fucking coward.

What makes you think they have to beat us in a pitched battle? They're tearing our ass up from the inside out, inspiring brilliant policy like TIPS and the terror alert system, the proposed and current curtailing of our civil rights and the ability of the invididual to be protected from govt intrusion and surveillance. If they win it's not going to be on a battlefield, it'll be when our society is just as closed and ignorant as theirs.

Your very apparent paranoia...Danny boy...probably stems from the illegal drugs that you use and probably other criminal activities you engage in. You should committ yourself to a clinic...but on second thought...I am satisfied that you would not benefit from treatment. Best to leave the slot open for someone that can be helped.

FunForOne · 02-16-2005, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

Sharp retort Einstein.

I know you are, but what am I? Are you going to tell me I have cooties next?

You are the definition of ignorance.

Ignorance - The condition of being ignorant; the want of knowledge in general, or in relation to a particular subject; the state of being uneducated or uninformed.

02-16-2005, 08:46 PM	#68
titmowse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: TEXAS Posts: 5,320	And we come full circle. How did a male escort with no journalism experience -except for a $50.00 seminar- get access to a CIA memo? "TN: An internal government memo prepared by U.S. intelligence personnel details a meeting in early 2002 where your wife, a member of the agency for clandestine service working on Iraqi weapons issues, suggested that you could be sent to investigate the reports. Do you dispute that?" --Jeff Gannon for Talon News http://web.archive.org/web/200312022...nterview.shtml __________________ I still love everybody

02-16-2005, 08:48 PM	#71
Robatolla Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: vegas Posts: 897	dig man your right!not only were we attacked on 9-11but the whole country has been duped and lied to. but with the cooperation of the media many many people actually believe we belong in iraq and don't even try to tell a republican we should'nt be there or they treat you like a fool.there is no diplomacy with republicans. __________________

02-16-2005, 08:54 PM	#75
Robatolla Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: vegas Posts: 897	really most politicians and governments are a bunch of fags,even the things designed keep a handle on these things(n korea,iran syria,iraq,afghan.,)oh shit did the tsunami even happen.fuck this shit pisses me off __________________

02-16-2005, 08:57 PM	#78
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	The right wing contols the U.S. media. If someone tells you otherwise, it's usually because they are brainwashed by that very media. There are a lot of brainwashed idiots out there and you could not convince most of them of the truth because they prefer the brainwashing. __________________ Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU \| Free Speech Coalition \| EFF \| IMPA

02-16-2005, 08:58 PM	#79
Robatolla Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: vegas Posts: 897	we are in a steady decline towards disaster and the wool is being pulled over everyones eyes.amaericans are just dying to be the ones that don't take no shit,but these countries we are dealing with are hellbent on the US and have dealt with war as daily life this isn't shit if it is in the name of islam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________

02-16-2005, 08:23 PM	#56
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	So, I guess the answer to my question, " Can idiots still claim that the US media is "liberal"?", is yes, idiots can and will continue spitting out this line until Rush tells them not to. Thanks guys.

02-16-2005, 08:23 PM	#57
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	what's also hilarious is that the Bushies are going after pornographers again - and you shouldn't be here if you're not one, you pathetic crippled old fuck theking - for fictitious depictions of rape and torture while they're fighting for the right to do it in real life.

02-16-2005, 08:23 PM	#58
FunForOne Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 8,704	"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." [W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them." "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."

02-16-2005, 08:33 PM	#64
FunForOne Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 8,704	"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." --Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998 "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." --Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by: -- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998 "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by: -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001 "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them." -- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" -- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002 "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 Seems like one political party likes talk more than action. I belive that sums up the lack of recent success of the liberal democrat party despite the obvious media slant.

02-16-2005, 08:33 PM	#65
hagbard Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 309	I heard about this on liberal NPR on tuesday evening. I saw it on my liberal local NBC affiliate that evening. It has 4x appeared on drudge report (conservative) It aired on the 14th on our local CBS as well. I'm not sure where the right wing conspiracy media blackout is here...

02-16-2005, 08:36 PM	#66
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	yeah but Clinton didn't spend 100's of billions of dollars and young American lives to contain Saddam, did he? He did it thru diplomacy. Also let me remind you that it was the incompetence of Bush that allowed 9-11 to happen, it's well documented that his incoming administration had absolutely no interest in the counter-terrorism.

02-16-2005, 09:00 PM	#80
Robatolla Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: vegas Posts: 897	brainwashing is a perfect phrase for it.just like religion is brainwashing.this white house seems awfully religious. __________________

02-16-2005, 09:02 PM	#83
Robatolla Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: vegas Posts: 897	maybe not one but 5?that worries me!!!!i know we kick ass.but do you realize how far the muslim sentiment reaches. __________________

02-16-2005, 09:05 PM	#86
Robatolla Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: vegas Posts: 897	NWO is what it is creating and that will be what effects everyone even the rednecks!! __________________

02-16-2005, 09:08 PM	#89
Robatolla Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: vegas Posts: 897	how dare you talk about Bush POTSMOKER.Why don't we all just chug some pabst and kick the dog!oh ya and maybe run the country for the people! __________________

02-16-2005, 09:09 PM	#91
Robatolla Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: vegas Posts: 897	what has he said that is so stupid it's everything that is really HAPPENING? __________________

02-16-2005, 09:12 PM	#96
Robatolla Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: vegas Posts: 897	the American people mean nothing to this adminstration!PERIOD! and thats what it's supposed to be all about! __________________