they may be the largest "polluter" but there's no proof that this is causing global warming. do some research before believing everything the media is forcing on you.

That's a simplistic and weak answer.

Get the blinders off pal. This is a Global economy. The United States operates under a trade deficit which to most other nations would be catastrophic. That equates to a huge net OUTFLOW of wealth from the industrious US workforce to the rest of the world.

If you're going to belittle the importance of economics, you better at least have a dim grasp of the point being made, yeah?

No, but globally it is. Why should some countries prevent it and others not?

You didn't answer the question. You just freaked out. Good job.

The US has controls...the majority of the countries have few or no controls...so apply your question to the majority of the countries on the earth.

He did not freak out...and you do not deserve any applause for your attempt at misdirection.

What controls?

Yes, he did, and he didn't answer the question. He also tried to suggest things which I never even mentioned.

By the way, I would never belittle the importance of economics. I love economics and economic growth.

Emmision/industrial pollution controls. The US has stringent controls...particularly when comparing the US to the overwhelming majority of the countries on this earth...said countries having few to no controls.

k there are two things to say about that:
- The poor countries does not have controls, because they can't afford anything. And they really dont produce much, except from having natural ressources.

- The rich countries can control it. However, those countries who already have invested a lot in preventing pollution do not need stringent controls. Why? Because they dont pollute.... You only need heavy controls if your factories pollute, right? Another thing here is the 'accepted' levels of pollution. Yeah, there can be controls, but if the accepted levels is too high compared to other nations, you are still polluting more.
Taking the scandinavian as an example, they are far below the accepted levels in the older Kyoto pact. Should we pollute more, just because we are 'allowed' to, and others do? No, thats wrong.

Controls are one thing, but what they control is another.

Since you asked... people, particularly children are being killed and maimed daily in Vietnam for a start.

There is no arguement over the existance of mines - not just from the US, but other countries as well. The slight difference is most of these countries are acknowledging the problem and acting on it.

What has the number of troops got to do with land mine removal? If mines need removed - someone has to do this. What's the point?? The greenback again? :-)

Amtrak has been a loser since inception

Utter garbage - some would call it pig shit :-)

Almost all counties in the industrialised world have far more pollution controls than the US - there is not even any comparison.

There sure ain't one single piece of research/survey produced so far to begin to support your absurd post - this shows the complete opposite. Tho I'd expect you to argue black is white anyway.

Are you going to argue that 5% of the world's population in the US have entitlement to use around 25% of the planet's resources next??

You are amazingly ignorant of the "overwhelming majority of the countries on this earth" King - ya just demonstrated that very well.

Pointless .. I got better shit to do.

global warming has increased the earth's temp by how much over what period of time?

If only the Earth would stop it's rotation so that the shit produced by each country woud be theirs ...

Then the US could produce as much as it wants, I couldn't careless ... A big smoged US ... :winkwink:

Over the last 100 years the temperature on Earth has risen by about 0.6°C. Although this rise in temperature may not sound like very much, it has already caused changes to our climate and if global warming continues there could be dramatic effects.

Do a bit more research before bashing those who wish not to participate. You, and most of the rest of the anti-American world, failed to see one BIG flaw in the Tokyo plan, 3rd world countries are exempt; including China and India. What does that mean? It means corporations will just move their pollution causing industries to those countries. Hurting those who follow these rules. So 140 countries just screwed themselves and gave China and India more jobs.....

you are ignoring the realities at hand. The EU is not and cannot meet their obligations and if you know anything about the Kyoto Accords and the costs of compliance, it makes no sense to the USA to even consider it. Its just a tolken "feel good" effort so that the misguided and shortsighted hippies of the world will shut up for a while. The big EU countries cannot even honor their own financial obligations and agreements with the EU.

No multi trillion dollar economy is going to plunge itself into economic darkness and financial ruin just because countries who matter less in the game of global economics can more easily comply... or did you think there was no cost of compliance?

Its just a shift of pollution, not a solution.

I fucking thought so! :mad:

Fuck Bush; that fucking asswipe!! :mad:

On a side note: The Kyoto Accord is supposed to be implemented gradually and as long it is done very slowly, I can see the US joining it in the near future (probably near the end of Asswipe's term)

If global warming existed then I am sure the US would step up.

Let me restate that - If Global warming existed and was caused by humans. So, there has been a 1 degree increase in temperature since we have been keeping track. So fucking what. It is estimated that the Ozone layer contracts and expands and probably has little to do with human intervention.

Its all about economy.

The earth was here before we got here, it will be here after we leave. We can study all we want, but the truth is that we have little impact or say about anything involved.

Off to the democrat message boards.

Make a sign and stand outside the whitehouse. Make a fake documentary about it. All I'm saying is that we need to all get together and show that we are non -conformists.

yeah, we suck.

The fact that the US isn't involved gives the ignorant political minds on message boards everywhere the opportunity to bitch and moan and belive they are intellectually superior.

Pig shit...as is SOP for you.

i can't believe some of you people... Fuck on some Amtrak routes they could buy people Air plane tickets it cost so much 2 run

If you think the countries that signed Kyoto will comply with all the rules... you got's your head up the ass. They have just now started checking what it will cost..... it's a ton, they ain't going 2 do it.

I can understand why she be against it... it will cost 2 dam much money..

why shouldn't you is the question

[QUOTE=DarkJedi]Kyoto global warming pact goes into force today. U.S stays out.

Once again, the USA refuses to act like the rest of the civilized world.


What ever gave you the ideal the rest of the world is civilized.

20 years ago we were on the verg of an ice age.... yep it coming.... that's what they said...
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

when the earth get through with us human's, it will shake us off like a bad case of fleas.

ahahahaha, just home from the day job and looking to act tough?

my god son, if you can't piss during normal business hours, get lost. :1orglaugh

That's a fact with your hand up...

no shit i love how all these people talk shit about the US and then swim there asses across the border. No i was not born in the US but fuck yeah it is a great place to live and fuck yeah the government makes mistakes but i would still pick it over the shithole countries that complain about the US... :321GFY

lmfao, as long as believing that helps you sleep better at night. I guess if spent uranium shells killed and deformed people and destroyed habitats, they wouldn't use it. :helpme

Being blind is easy, it's that thinking thing that gives Americans headaches.