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FunForOne 02-16-2005 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy
Ive been submitting galleries for 6 weeks and heres how I'm doing so far:

Week 1 - $0
Week 2 - $35
week 3 - $140
week 4 - $35
week 5 - $70
week 6 - $0

is that good, or normal, or bad?
how long does it take before i start to really make some money?

According to my counter, my galleries have been loaded 738,884 times, mostly from 4 or 5 BIG tgps, the rest are smaller ones.



I dont think you ratios are that bad.

I'm not experienced either, but someone gave some advice saying that I needed to get 1,000,000 hits a day to my galleries.


When you do that you would be pulling in 300 - 400 bucks a day!

Good luck

Mefo 02-16-2005 08:06 AM

that's kinda bad, hit me up on icq if you need some help to gain better results

polish_aristocrat 02-16-2005 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne
I dont think you ratios are that bad.

I'm not experienced either, but someone gave some advice saying that I needed to get 1,000,000 hits a day to my galleries.

welcome to 2001

Nicky 02-16-2005 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne
I dont think you ratios are that bad.

I'm not experienced either, but someone gave some advice saying that I needed to get 1,000,000 hits a day to my galleries.


When you do that you would be pulling in 300 - 400 bucks a day!

Good luck

1mil hits aday? sounds like you have some heavy gallery spot buying to do than :1orglaugh

FunForOne 02-16-2005 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
welcome to 2001


why would you mouthfart that my way?

FunForOne 02-16-2005 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky
1mil hits aday? sounds like you have some heavy gallery spot buying to do than :1orglaugh


My assumption is that its not just to one gallery.
For sure, you would have to use some partner accounts and paid listings, but also

Make 10 galleries, submit
Make 10 galleries the next day, submit
Make 10 galleries the next day, submit
.....



Eventually, you are getting traffic from a bunch of different galleries all on the same day.

How many gallery hits do you think each one should get?

Would I be wrong about this?

volante 02-16-2005 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne
Make 10 galleries, submit
Make 10 galleries the next day, submit
Make 10 galleries the next day, submit
.....



Eventually, you are getting traffic from a bunch of different galleries all on the same day.

Eventually, you are blacklisted by every TGP capable of sending you decent traffic by not following the rules...

FunForOne 02-16-2005 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by volante
Eventually, you are blacklisted by every TGP capable of sending you decent traffic by not following the rules...



why would they blacklist you for making galleries? Isn't that the whold deal.

Do you think there may be more than one tgp that you can use to spread out those 10 per day? Maybe, just maybe?



I"ve got one that wants 5 galleries a day. I've got another that wants 2 a day. Another one wants 5 a day. Yet, anohter wants 15 a month minimum.

You see, you can spread them out to different places.

The hun wants no more than 1 every 3 to 4 days. Thats what he gets!

groark 02-16-2005 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix
forget reality

go for the weird stuff no one else is doing

Weird stuff always converts better

Porko 02-16-2005 08:51 AM

Post some sample url...

clickclickclick 02-16-2005 08:55 AM

make friends with tgp ppl and ask for partner accounts.

Rinaldo 02-16-2005 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix
what niches are you doing? you migh be under some heavy competition

i have had guys start from nothing with me and they are doing 3 sales and sometimes more each day

keep plugging and refining

I've got some guys doing freesites only... link list submissions... one gallery a day to 10 link lists and they're doing 3-5 joins a day... it's in your drive and what ultimately motivates you.
they're not even promoting anything highly niche specific. Hit me up and we'll go over some things that I've observed and we'll see if I can't help you actual turn those clicks into conversions.

it could be as simple as your colors aren't well thought out.

GoodStuff 02-16-2005 09:09 AM

I'd like to see some galleries, too. If you're using a sponsor that everybody else is using you'll see shit numbers like that. Try finding a bunch of smaller sites that you never hear about on GFY. Assume that if they're on GFY then everybody promotes them.

Also, I don't know if you're doing movie galleries or picture galleries. I get much better conversions using movie galleries. Sometimes as much as 4-5 times for the same site promoted!

Also, if you do the small niche stuff, look for the small niche TGP/MGPs as well. They might not have as much traffic as the big boys, but it will convert better for you. Just submit to more of them to get your traffic numbers up.

clickhappy 02-16-2005 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodStuff
I'd like to see some galleries, too. If you're using a sponsor that everybody else is using you'll see shit numbers like that. Try finding a bunch of smaller sites that you never hear about on GFY. Assume that if they're on GFY then everybody promotes them.

Also, I don't know if you're doing movie galleries or picture galleries. I get much better conversions using movie galleries. Sometimes as much as 4-5 times for the same site promoted!

i dont want to post url's because if someone doesnt like me then they'll get stolen or someone could attack my server or somethintg.
I'm using topbucks for my sponsor. Im using them because I remember diamond jim posting his topbucks check and it was humongous so I thought I should use them too.

im using picture galleries, i never figured out how to edit /mpeg's and a lot of tgps dont take .wmv's.

iwantchixx 02-16-2005 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy
i dont want to post url's because if someone doesnt like me then they'll get stolen or someone could attack my server or somethintg.
I'm using topbucks for my sponsor. Im using them because I remember diamond jim posting his topbucks check and it was humongous so I thought I should use them too.

im using picture galleries, i never figured out how to edit /mpeg's and a lot of tgps dont take .wmv's.

I won't steal them or attack your server. Contact me on ICQ 302040348 and shoot me a couple urls.

GoodStuff 02-16-2005 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy
i dont want to post url's because if someone doesnt like me then they'll get stolen or someone could attack my server or somethintg.
I'm using topbucks for my sponsor. Im using them because I remember diamond jim posting his topbucks check and it was humongous so I thought I should use them too.

im using picture galleries, i never figured out how to edit /mpeg's and a lot of tgps dont take .wmv's.

If you're starting out submitting galleries then Diamond Jim has something you don't have, established traffic sources.

You're creating a lot of competition for yourself. TopBucks has tons of affiliates. If you're using their free content too, then many TGP/MGPs won't list you because their content is overused as well.

As far as video editing is concerned X Video Converter is well worth the $30. It does everything you need to do to make galleries very easily (screencaps, converting media, cutting into smaller clips).

I would suggest finding some smaller sites that use third party processors, like CCBill, and promoting those. You'll find that many owners will bend over backwards to help you. Many will even grant you access to their members areas to select your own content for promotional purposes. That way you content will be much more in demand by both the TGP owners and the surfers. That's a win-win situation for you.

latinasojourn 02-16-2005 02:50 PM

it is tough to make $ submitting galleries unless you are the owner of niche paysites and you do your own in-house high volume (10,000 submissions/day) submitting using multiple domains, many different galleries, and multiple IPs. this requires automation, and mind numbing work for an outsourced contractor (RS, etc).

the only way this even makes sense is to put an extra recip on your pages to filiter niche traffic.

and even then this activity will only do maybe $200-300/day in new signups.

if you are a small volume submitter who does not own a paysite(s) i think your time would be more valuable assembling whoppers at BK.

sorry for the truth.

detoxed 02-16-2005 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy
do you think?
I mean, i dont mind plugging away if it means eventually Ill make some money. Every business starts small. But how long does it take before I start to make a lot more, like say $200 a day?

'Its never going to magically happen, you obviously need to change something.

Antonio 02-16-2005 03:03 PM

That' was my progress with TGP submitting as well (talking about couple of years back). It was COMPLETE waste of time. I'm sure that there are many guys making good money with TGPs but I'm not one of them. Try different traffic sources, use the GFY search if you have to, there's hundreds of good threads amongst all the bullshit that is posted daily here ;)

Porko 02-16-2005 03:06 PM

just try with new sponsors. try to find someone with nice content...

iwantchixx 02-16-2005 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by latinasojourn
it is tough to make $ submitting galleries unless you are the owner of niche paysites and you do your own in-house high volume (10,000 submissions/day) submitting using multiple domains, many different galleries, and multiple IPs. this requires automation, and mind numbing work for an outsourced contractor (RS, etc).

the only way this even makes sense is to put an extra recip on your pages to filiter niche traffic.

and even then this activity will only do maybe $200-300/day in new signups.

if you are a small volume submitter who does not own a paysite(s) i think your time would be more valuable assembling whoppers at BK.

sorry for the truth.


That's not exactly true. I know plenty of people doing really well on pic and movie gallery submissions promoting programs..


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