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Mr Pheer 04-09-2005 03:47 PM

200 people making $20k a month :1orglaugh

woj 04-09-2005 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Paraskass
Everybody who thinks we can all be making 20k a month is smoking crack and I want some of it.
Come on fuckers, why doesn't every movie gross 300 millions $? And why doesn't every fast food restaurant have as many locations as McDonalds?

Same fucking reason as for porn. The market can only take so much. There is a total amount spent on porn and porn related products every year, and it won't go up forever, making the whole market like a big pie. Sure the pie gets a little bigger every year, but basically, the people making more money have a bigger part of the pie. When somebody starts making more money it means that somewhere else, somebody is making less. This can be explained for many reasons (better product, better prices, better services etc...)

Thinking we can all make 20k a month is noncense, unless somebody somewhere goes from making 100k a month to 20k a month so that 4 other people can make 20k.

very true....

$5 submissions 04-09-2005 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPheer
200 people making $20k a month :1orglaugh

Thumbs up! :thumbsup

V_RocKs 04-09-2005 05:06 PM

How to market Indian content. Get a kick as .in name and then make TGP's for them. Study their culture and crop thumbs accordingly.

clickhappy 04-09-2005 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs
How to market Indian content. Get a kick as .in name and then make TGP's for them. Study their culture and crop thumbs accordingly.

Thanks, I gave up on Indian after I bought a bunch of sets and submitted them everywhere and made nothing.
Im doing gay galleries now, we'll see how that goes.

nikki99 04-09-2005 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie
I remember making $15 000/month back in 2001 all on my own.. those were the days. Wish I would have been smart with my $

that was pretty good Yngwie ;)

$5 submissions 04-09-2005 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs
How to market Indian content. Get a kick as .in name and then make TGP's for them. Study their culture and crop thumbs accordingly.

Yep, plus there's tons of Indian optin groups.

$5 submissions 04-13-2005 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by qwe
consistancy is the key... if you make 20K one month and then 5k another month u AINT MAKING 20/month... take fucking year of salary and devide !

True. Stability and sustainability is key. Diversity... plays a huge role in all this.

detoxed 04-13-2005 04:30 PM

I only make $20 now :(

TheDoc 04-13-2005 04:32 PM

Well.. It kind of comes down to choice. When it was just myself years ago I was more than happy with 8-15k a month. (I had some huge months but normally sat in the range)

As things grew and developed into a company, earning over 20k a month was easy. 10 joins a day isn?t hard.

If you are serious about your business and not new to the business.. 20k a month should be a cakewalk. Free traffic guys may have to work at it a little harder, but it just comes down to working your ass off and mastering your business.

pxxx 04-13-2005 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
Well.. It kind of comes down to choice. When it was just myself years ago I was more than happy with 8-15k a month. (I had some huge months but normally sat in the range)

As things grew and developed into a company, earning over 20k a month was easy. 10 joins a day isn?t hard.

If you are serious about your business and not new to the business.. 20k a month should be a cakewalk. Free traffic guys may have to work at it a little harder, but it just comes down to working your ass off and mastering your business.

It sure is harder nowadays, but i am still working towards it.

will76 04-13-2005 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon
i've come close but never hit 20k on any given month but im willing to bet part of the reason ppl like detoxed can make such numbers is because of the contacts he's made over the years.

That's not accurate. I didn't post on a messageboard or really talk to anyone online the first 4 years i was online. I went to one show during that time and it was a 15 min drive from my house. The only person I met at the show was my attorney that I use. I am self taught and developed my entire system(s) on my own.

I worked in my own little corner, trail and error and just a lot of experimenting. Working with others helps (networking), but it can also hurt you if you confuse networking with bullshiting. If you spending 3- 4 hours a day bullshitting then you are hurting yourself. IF you get to the point and make your time networking valuable then you it will help you. I would say more then 50% of the people here are bullshiting.

The other thing you people who want to make more money needs to realize is that the company you advertise for plays a major rule in how much money you can make. I have double and tripled my income over night just from changing where i am sending my traffic not from adding more traffic. You can send your traffic to site A and make $100 and then send it to site B and make $1,000. Don't think all companies are a like, not be any means.

MetaMan 04-13-2005 10:24 PM

i would make 20k a month but i spend all my money on crack and hookers, i mean the only reason i have net connection is because i steal it from my neighbours.

ya ya some will see my nice cars, nice clothes, hot women but the truth is i barely afford my shoes.

Paul Markham 04-13-2005 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed
Everyone doesnt have basic internet skills that we on GFY do. Everyone doesnt spend 16 hours a day online trying to make money.

Internet skills are not the key to making money in the porn industry. A programmer can be hired for cents, people with "Internet Skills" are churning out of high school every week.

Try hiring a PORNOGRPAHER for the same money. If someone offered me $20K a month to work for them I would assume they meant part time. Not being arrogant just honest. The skill sI've aquired do not come with a two year course at college or working six months on a key board.

Paul Markham 04-13-2005 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Playa-Deak
I'm getting lost. You guys are making 10K/month. You run adult websites? I do also, is your site like my site? www.doggystylegirls.com or www.bootyshowcase.com what am I missing?

If you cannot answer that question yourself you will never make $20K a month.

Those sites are just bad, simple.

detoxed 04-13-2005 10:49 PM

want to get lots of traffic? find something that takes 1 minute to do and gets 4 clicks. do it 10,000 times a day.

will76 04-13-2005 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by charly
Internet skills are not the key to making money in the porn industry. A programmer can be hired for cents, people with "Internet Skills" are churning out of high school every week.

Try hiring a PORNOGRPAHER for the same money. If someone offered me $20K a month to work for them I would assume they meant part time. Not being arrogant just honest. The skill sI've aquired do not come with a two year course at college or working six months on a key board.


If anyone wants to hire me for consulting, honestly, it's $500 an hour and I will give you max 10 hours a week. I can't program worth a lick and my web design is average at best. I can't fix a computer and have no clue how to do any server side work but i know how to make money.

neewwman 04-13-2005 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by will76
The other thing you people who want to make more money needs to realize is that the company you advertise for plays a major role in how much money you can make. I have doubled and tripled my income over night just from changing where i am sending my traffic not from adding more traffic. You can send your traffic to site A and make $100 and then send it to site B and make $1,000. Don't think all companies are alike, not be any means.


THAT is a big part of the secret, folks.

My income has been soaring lately (over $32,000 for March) and a lot of it has to do with changing sponsors.

will76 04-13-2005 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed
want to get lots of traffic? find something that takes 1 minute to do and gets 4 clicks. do it 10,000 times a day.


LOL there are only 1440 mins in a day so that is a little bit impossible, but we get the point.

Paul Markham 04-13-2005 10:58 PM

Making $20 a month is not impossible or even unlikely. But it's not easy.

You need skills, application, talent and the ability to market. Do not cut corners, compromise or cheat.

Skills, do you have a skill that the world needs?

Application, are you prepared to work at it?

Talent, is the little ingredient that puts you above all the others doing the same as you.

Marketing, you may be God's gift to something but to make money you need the ability to sell yourself/product.

Cutting corners, there are few short cuts to success. Simply because others are taking that route.

Compromise, stay true to your beliefs. Learn as you go but be true to yourself.

Cheating, look around you at the cheats. Most of them could not raise $200 if they had to. Doing one deal makes you one profit. Doing the same deal time and time again makes you rich.

Look at me and if you were here think back 3 years when I arrived. I was told by all the experts my content is not needed, I did not understand the Internet so would not succeed and my attitude was not right for selling to Adult Webmasters. Most of those experts are now gone or out of the content business.

I stayed true to the above.

Now can you?

will76 04-13-2005 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by neewwman
THAT is a big part of the secret, folks.

My income has been soaring lately (over $32,000 for March) and a lot of it has to do with changing sponsors.

Neewwman, want to try changing it one more time for the better...

I switched a few times and landed on ClickCash... been content with them. 49K+ so far for April :thumbsup

The right sponsor means everything people. I can send all of this traffic to others sites and I would be one of the group here asking why can't i make 10K a week ????

Theo 04-13-2005 11:01 PM

if you have schedule and work on various things it's achievable. Fairly easy? It depends.

Hornydog4cooter 04-13-2005 11:02 PM

Think out of the box people think out of the box. Not once have i ever done anything webmaster related stated in this thread. You find some thing run with it al lthe way to the bank

Hornydog4cooter 04-13-2005 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by will76
Neewwman, want to try changing it one more time for the better...

I switched a few times and landed on ClickCash... been content with them. 49K+ so far for April :thumbsup

The right sponsor means everything people. I can send all of this traffic to others sites and I would be one of the group here asking why can't i make 10K a week ????


Will is not blowin smoke up your ass either with his april figures....

datatank 04-13-2005 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hornydog4cooter
Will is not blowin smoke up your ass either with his april figures....


April? :)

quiet 04-13-2005 11:09 PM

hilarious thread.

detoxed 04-13-2005 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by quiet
hilarious thread.


i think its funny how old it is!

Hornydog4cooter 04-13-2005 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank
April? :)


i know im a frigin month behind :1orglaugh

Hornydog4cooter 04-13-2005 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed
i think its funny how old it is!

Yeah but its good alot of good posting if you read it real well...

datatank 04-13-2005 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed
i think its funny how old it is!

Detoxed what you been working on ?

MrJackMeHoff 04-13-2005 11:23 PM

20k is chump change

detoxed 04-13-2005 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by will76
LOL there are only 1440 mins in a day so that is a little bit impossible, but we get the point.

how many people can you hire? 100?

detoxed 04-13-2005 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank
Detoxed what you been working on ?

my social life :(

datatank 04-13-2005 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed
my social life :(

How is that going? I sure hope you dont work on it around here heheh

detoxed 04-13-2005 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank
How is that going? I sure hope you dont work on it around here heheh

its going great, partying too much not working enough :)

will76 04-13-2005 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed
how many people can you hire? 100?


more then that... but i get the point.. good one.

will76 04-14-2005 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by datatank
April? :)


so far for April (April 1 - April 13)

detoxed 04-14-2005 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by will76
so far for April (April 1 - April 13)


want to discuss traffic sources sometime? :) i have some good ones

will76 04-14-2005 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by detoxed
want to discuss traffic sources sometime? :) i have some good ones


Keep'em for yourself ;) just send them to ClickCash and make bank.

detoxed 04-14-2005 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by will76
Keep'em for yourself ;) just send them to ClickCash and make bank.


maybe :) i have made cash with them in the past..

$5 submissions 04-14-2005 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
Keep'em for yourself ;) just send them to ClickCash and make bank.

Interesting. :)

will76 04-14-2005 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by detoxed
maybe :) i have made cash with them in the past..


i'll help you :thumbsup

will76 04-14-2005 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions
Interesting. :)

Hey $5 submissions, when i start my blog network i will get with you for maintaining it for me.. i need someone to make entries.

Hornydog4cooter 04-14-2005 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by will76
Hey $5 submissions, when i start my blog network i will get with you for maintaining it for me.. i need someone to make entries.

Great guy great work you will be pleased :thumbsup

Veiga 04-14-2005 12:33 AM

I am....

Why? Coz I sale cheap make-money-fast tutorials to lazy webmasters!

w0rstluk 04-14-2005 12:55 AM

detoxed is a douche bag

will76 04-14-2005 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by w0rstluk
detoxed is a douche bag

oh yeah. why you say?

Greg B 04-14-2005 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by detoxed
It seems like if a few ppl got together and actually used some brainpower, most of you would be making $20k a month instead of whatever it is you make.

It's about time a positive thread about makin' loot.

Theory is good, but the practical needs to be laid out. $5 Submissions has some good tips as well as several others.

Practically, making $20k a month is swell as long as it doesn't cost $19k a month to do it.

Ironically for me, less traffic means more money. I could never figure that out.

I've always done well with SEs. Don't have to be at the top to do the best. Yet I get fine tuned targeted traffic which translates into solid, dependable sales and rebills. If I went affiliate I would easily make well over $50k a month but it's too much a pain for now. Maybe by end of this summer. Tested it a few years ago and it shot off like a rocket.

I think you guys are right that if you have a good product/service and keep focused you have no choice but to expand. Be true to your resellers and customers and be diverse. Stick with the people and companies that are true and reliable. If a guy can't keep his word or you see him or her screw over someone else then cut them the fuck off.

No honor amongst theives.

Detoxed you're right on the bean there.

$5 submissions 04-14-2005 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by will76
Hey $5 submissions, when i start my blog network i will get with you for maintaining it for me.. i need someone to make entries.

We can do it, bro. Just hit me up via ICQ or YMSG or email me at info AT webmasterlabor DOT com

will76 04-14-2005 06:00 PM

will do i should be starting my blogs in a couple months.


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