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Old 02-14-2005, 12:49 AM   #1
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You think Dialers are dead?

I dont think they work....we dont have them on any of our sites ( used too ) and dont think i am planning on having them....what do you think?
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Old 02-14-2005, 12:50 AM   #2
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NO raffi they are far from dead, get with the right people bro and ya can make more money.
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Old 02-14-2005, 12:58 AM   #3
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NO raffi they are far from dead, get with the right people bro and ya can make more money.
oh ya and who would that be? Goodthingxxx was what i had... i think most of the business for dailers is from foreign country users...and if you dont have much of that traffic, dialers wont be that profitable in sales...
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See dude your talking to the wrong people...
GoodThinxxx?

WTF you fell for that?
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See dude your talking to the wrong people...
GoodThinxxx?

WTF you fell for that?
wrong people? what dailer would you recommend?
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Old 02-14-2005, 02:15 AM   #6
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dialers rock on our euro traffic, our german friends love them
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Old 02-14-2005, 02:26 AM   #9
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Dialers are far from being dead. I've been making money from dialers since the early days of this industry. I'm baking harder than ever with NCC US Solution, than I ever did with PPS. I'm sending minimal traffic, but converting like there's no tomorrow with these lines.

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They can still be profitable if you redirect your forign traffic but I don't believe they are as usefull as they used to be.
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Old 02-14-2005, 02:30 AM   #12
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They can still be profitable if you redirect your forign traffic but I don't believe they are as usefull as they used to be.
With the years of growth and development, NOCCs programs are actually MORE useful and profitable than ever. With age comes experience, and being around since '96 ... they pretty much have every angle covered. You should check out the promotional material in my sig, you'd be amazed at some of the advanced chat promo pages available for use.
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Old 02-14-2005, 02:53 AM   #14
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NO raffi they are far from dead.
Sucks that you're banned, because I'm actually agreeing with you here.
Raffi: NCC was nominated for a 2005 XBiz award, so that should answer your question on what is "dead" and what's not

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Old 02-14-2005, 03:03 AM   #15
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Santa says: HO! HO! HO!


Dialers is far from dead and people that keep saying that have never made a single dollar at dialers... It´s easy money for doin nothing...

Do you think I can buy me a new car, house, plasma, phone, travel, have fun if dialers was dead???


7+ years in business

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Pays every 3 weeks in euros by wire

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Great onlinestats

You can have the dialer at tgps,mgps,linklist,freesites EVERYTHING

Hit me up and we can make cash together...





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Old 02-14-2005, 03:08 AM   #16
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Dialers is far from dead and people that keep saying that have never made a single dollar at dialers... It´s easy money for doin nothing...

Do you think I can buy me a new car, house, plasma, phone, travel, have fun if dialers was dead???


7+ years in business

GUARANTEED payout

No chargeback

Pays every 3 weeks in euros by wire

24/7 support

Great onlinestats

You can have the dialer at tgps,mgps,linklist,freesites EVERYTHING

Hit me up and we can make cash together...





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Old 02-14-2005, 03:40 AM   #17
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Ur wishes are orders :

U're located in Europe : www.eurodialer.com
U're located in the USA : www.fastmanbucks.com
U're located in the UK : www.tottycash.co.uk

Here we go now
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Old 02-14-2005, 03:54 AM   #18
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I dont think they work....we dont have them on any of our sites ( used too ) and dont think i am planning on having them....what do you think?
A good and intuitive website design will work things out.
I think it really depends on the presentation.
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Old 02-14-2005, 04:02 AM   #19
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GoodThinxxx?

WTF you fell for that?
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...13#post5702513
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Old 02-14-2005, 04:13 AM   #20
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Dialers is far from dead and people that keep saying that have never made a single dollar at dialers... It´s easy money for doin nothing...

Do you think I can buy me a new car, house, plasma, phone, travel, have fun if dialers was dead???


7+ years in business

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No chargeback

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You can have the dialer at tgps,mgps,linklist,freesites EVERYTHING

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My latest stats:
16 connected from 205 downloads which means around 8%
270 minutes around 15mins per calls
Ain't was it used too for sure

How much traffic do you need to push in it to see big numbers ?
I must admit that i don't drive traffic to it but stats are a factor !
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Old 02-14-2005, 04:14 AM   #21
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Dialers are not gone, but getting harder & harder as many countries have completelly banned them or have introduced strict regulations and more & more connections is broadband. However its still possibile to make good income from them, just needs suitable traffic & right partner / sponsor.

Anyway, see sig, there is a solution that works far better than ordinary dialers and around the world.
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Add to the list of scammers - downloaddollars. Fuck everyone for payment and blame an 'upstream provider' and refuse to name them.
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Old 02-14-2005, 05:14 AM   #23
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the answer is in the name. I don't think they are death, but not exactly the future.
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My latest stats:
16 connected from 205 downloads which means around 8%
270 minutes around 15mins per calls
Ain't was it used too for sure

How much traffic do you need to push in it to see big numbers ?
I must admit that i don't drive traffic to it but stats are a factor !
You know how to contact me - DO IT!!!
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I hate dialers, I hope broadband will take over asap, so this shit can die already.
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With the years of growth and development, NOCCs programs are actually MORE useful and profitable than ever. With age comes experience, and being around since '96 ... they pretty much have every angle covered. You should check out the promotional material in my sig, you'd be amazed at some of the advanced chat promo pages available for use.
Fair enough i'll check it out always willing to see every side of this biz
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Old 02-14-2005, 08:25 AM   #28
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I hate dialers, I hope broadband will take over asap, so this shit can die already.
You hate dialer? You hate when you send visitors to a paysite and they charge your visitors with dialers to?

Dialers is far from dead.. More then 50% of all people in the world is still without internet connection. Wait until the hole Asia have internet, the hole Africa and the rest of east europe.

They will start with modem. Dialers is growing... day by day but keep hate it...
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Old 02-14-2005, 08:34 AM   #29
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Ok i guess dialers are not dead if you know how to use it correctly, however we have tried usig different dialers on our european paysites, and it just dont take off. Maybe because we have alot of broadband traffic.

Anyway there is alternatives to using dialers to bill european surfers, for example if you are interested in billing your surfers with SMS, give us a shout and we will set you up.
You must be from Scandinvia. SMS sucks and you know it =) but SMS is the best way after dialers.

People in northen europe dont like to use VISA and other cards to pay with. SMS is not good but the best way if you dont like dialers.

Good luck!
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Old 02-14-2005, 08:39 AM   #30
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I am from Norway, and i know for a fact the SMS works much better then dialers here. We also have 20-30 k per day of own swedish traffic , and very low amount of swedish dialers minutes. However SMS converts very well on this traffic.
Can be true. Swedish people like SMS and you dont have the right dialer to charge swedish visitors.
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What happend to Telcoweb?

They used to be all over the boards and dissapeared all of sudden...

Dialers is a risky busy, I've already saw so much companies (providers & resellers) come and go...pff
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What happend to Telcoweb?

They used to be all over the boards and dissapeared all of sudden...

Dialers is a risky busy, I've already saw so much companies (providers & resellers) come and go...pff
They come and they go. We have been stable in 7 years +
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Wait until the hole Asia have internet, the hole Africa and the rest of east europe.
East Europe? Dialers are almost dead in EE, most people use DSL, wifi, chello...
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SMS billing works very well in Scandinavian... I have experiences about SMS billing from Sweden & Finland.
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They come and they go. We have been stable in 7 years +
No ofense but you seem just another reseller, and I never heard about you guys...in the dailer crazy days (where all AWI threads were about dialers,etc..)
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Yes, but one must have Euro traffic to make it worth having dialers huh?
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Yes, but one must have Euro traffic to make it worth having dialers huh?
Not at all actually, any non-billable surfer can be converted (if within the country list)
Many large paysites, and affiliate programs are currently running NOCC as a modem-billing alternative for non credit card holding surfers.

NOCC Dialers work great for majority of non-English speaking surfers as well.


That's why NCC offers promo material in the following Languages:
-English, -German, -French, -Italian, -Spanish, -Japanese, -Swedish,
-Portuguese, -Dutch, -Czech, -Greek, -Polish, -Russian, -Sloven, -Turkish, -Romanian



For my personal campaign, here's some FEB% statistics from my account:
USA%
CANADA%
FRANCE%
IRAN%
QUEBEC%
SAUDI ARABIA%
OMAN%
ETC


Hope that helped to give you a better idea
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Note: My sites used above are almost all US-English targeted (demographic)
So whatever INT conversions you see, are all wandering eyes, SE Traffic etc.
(the rest fall into non-billable cat)
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Yes, but one must have Euro traffic to make it worth having dialers huh?
Euro traffic moves more towards broadband (DSL, Cable, or wireless) and credit cards every day.
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For my personal campaign, here's some FEB% statistics from my account:
USA%
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FRANCE%
IRAN%
QUEBEC%
SAUDI ARABIA%
OMAN%
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Hope that helped to give you a better idea
Where are the statistics?
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what's the most hardcore, aggressive dialer that converts and pays for large amounts of unfiltered SE traffic?
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what's the most hardcore, aggressive dialer that converts and pays for large amounts of unfiltered SE traffic?
I already recommended Money Tree before in this thread, they rock for UK traffic, paying currently $1.50 per minute and they have quite agressive banners and promo tools

ah, here's the link again 4 u MONEY TREE


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Old 02-14-2005, 03:58 PM   #49
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Yes, but one must have Euro traffic to make it worth having dialers huh?
Not true, many of the dialer-based sites will redirect N.American traffic to a credit card option ... some also allow us N.Americans to use the dialer, though I know it's not a popular payment option here, yet.
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Old 02-14-2005, 03:59 PM   #50
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