Homosexuality - is it biological or psychological? - GoFuckYourself.com

alexg · 02-13-2005, 05:08 PM

I'm asking seriously... Most people say that it's not a choice, but people are born homosexual.. so my question is, is it something that can be explained biologically? like they're missing a certein hormone, or have too much of it or whatever (I don't know biology..) or is it something psychological that have to do with their mind/brain? is there a certein answer for this?
can one be turned from homosexual to straight with the right treatment?

also, I'd like to know if someone can become a homosexual? or is it you either born this way or you're always straight... do you think that in the new millenium there are more gay/bi people then in the past, or is it just that in the past less of them have exposed themselves?

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galleryseek · 02-13-2005, 05:09 PM

It is psychological. No one is born gay.

-Negrodaumas

galleryseek · 02-13-2005, 05:10 PM

and gay people like to fool themselves into believing it is biological, and they're born gay... because otherwise, it would mean there's something wrong with them.

PerfectionGirls · 02-13-2005, 05:11 PM

Its a choice. I bad one, but a choice. They can change, but either do not have the mental abilty to do so, or they just love the cock.

Pete · 02-13-2005, 05:11 PM

Its biological

MandyBlake · 02-13-2005, 05:12 PM

it's biological.
also....go way way back into rome. all the guys were fucking each other. this goes back a long long long long way.

AaronM · 02-13-2005, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PerfectionGirls

Its a choice. I bad one, but a choice. They can change, but either do not have the mental abilty to do so, or they just love the cock.

Which, by default, makes it psychological.

FunForOne · 02-13-2005, 05:16 PM

Its not biological.

Its just like smoking. You aren't born a smoker, but once you see it, try it, and like it, you become chemically (bioligically) addicted.

Its a choice most young adults make because its an easy reason to explain past problems such as not fitting in with the cool crowd or a ploy for attention or to gain access to a like minded group.

No 2 year old kid is gay. Its a product of environment.

If it were biological, homesexual males rectums would generate a natural lubricant.

Furious_Female · 02-13-2005, 05:17 PM

People are born gay. People are born straight. People are born bisexual. It's bio-chemical and I don't care what anyone says. No one chooses their sexual preferences on any level; even subconsciously. It's hard coded in us. The majority disagree with this, and that's ok... I believe in science and one day it will be proven.

galleryseek · 02-13-2005, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

Its not biological.

Its just like smoking. You aren't born a smoker, but once you see it, try it, and like it, you become chemically (bioligically) addicted.

Its a choice most young adults make because its an easy reason to explain past problems such as not fitting in with the cool crowd or a ploy for attention or to gain access to a like minded group.

No 2 year old kid is gay. Its a product of environment.

If it were biological, homesexual males rectums would generate a natural lubricant.

well said, and makes the most sense.

detoxed · 02-13-2005, 05:21 PM

Probably both, some people just look GAY. People wouldnt ever accept them as a straight person.

alexg · 02-13-2005, 05:24 PM

btw I always tend to believe it's psychological... at least in most cases

and I also think that there are more gay people today then say 20 years ago and this is due to the much greater exposure homosexuality is getting in the media and in social life...

yuvalus · 02-13-2005, 05:36 PM

It's both

yuvalus · 02-13-2005, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

and I also think that there are more gay people today then say 20 years ago and this is due to the much greater exposure homosexuality is getting in the media and in social life...

Plus, if you think about it, gay ppl can't reproduct

FunForOne · 02-13-2005, 05:39 PM

Answer me this:

What if a gay man goes through his whole life without having sex with another man. Is he a homosexual?

What if a straight man gets drunk and has gay sex. Is he gay?

Sounds to me like those would be making "choices"

FunForOne · 02-13-2005, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by yuvalus

Plus, if you think about it, gay ppl can't reproduct

Yea, if it was biological, they would have died out.

pxxx · 02-13-2005, 05:43 PM

I remember hearing some doctor around here say that it was some missing chemical in their heads or someshit like that.

alexg · 02-13-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

Yea, if it was biological, they would have died out.

well, a minority of straight people can't reproduce, and it's purely biological...

FunForOne · 02-13-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

well, a minority of straight people can't reproduce, and it's purely biological...

but, most of them can and do. Whats the point?

BRISK · 02-13-2005, 05:46 PM

people are born homosexual

BRISK · 02-13-2005, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

Yea, if it was biological, they would have died out.

just like retarded humans have died out?

LadyMischief · 02-13-2005, 05:50 PM

Considering that homosexuality is found in nature, I would say that it's more natural than religious zealots like to make it out to be. There's lots of scientific proof of this type of behavior.

http://www.bidstrup.com/sodomy.htm
http://www.subversions.com/french/pa...e/animals.html

There have also been several books written on the subject. One that is particularly good, is Biological Exuberance : Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity, by Bruce Bagemihl. Interesting to check into.

paxton · 02-13-2005, 05:53 PM

Out of curiosity...

Of everyone who is saying that it is a "choice" - how many of you are homosexual?

alexg · 02-13-2005, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

but, most of them can and do. Whats the point?

point is most people are straight... so maybe there is a minority of gay people and it's something biological, just like there is a minority of straight people who can't reproduce due to biological reasons

alexg · 02-13-2005, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by paxton

Out of curiosity...

Of everyone who is saying that it is a "choice" - how many of you are homosexual?

i think most homosexuals would say that it's biological...

FissPunny · 02-13-2005, 05:55 PM

Im a male biological lesbian because I choose to be and cant help it

paxton · 02-13-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

i think most homosexuals would say that it's biological...

Who is qualified to answer the original quesion? Homosexuals, heterosexuals, or both?

Mikedigi · 02-13-2005, 05:57 PM

People are born gay.

BRISK · 02-13-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FissPunny

Im a male biological lesbian because I choose to be and cant help it

Does that mean we can call you a fag?

BRISK · 02-13-2005, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

Yea, if it was biological, they would have died out.

biological doesn't necessarily mean genetic

LadyMischief · 02-13-2005, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

point is most people are straight... so maybe there is a minority of gay people and it's something biological, just like there is a minority of straight people who can't reproduce due to biological reasons

There is a town of people in the states who all have 6 fingers. It's a genetic trait that is passed on and has carried on there through the generations. Humans actually carry a gene for 6 fingers, but it rarely shows up. Doesn't mean it isn't there or isn't possible.

FunForOne · 02-13-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

just like retarded humans have died out?

I see, you make a good point.

I just think that sexuality is a product of environment. No one is born "sexual"

The slow and gradual events of life define the meaning of sex and life for each indivdual person.

I believe you could separate identical twins at birth and put them two opposite households. I belive they would look and act different as they got older.

Lets say one lives with a Nice christian redneck familly in Texas. The other grows up with a lesbian couple in San Fransico.

Would you be surprised if one of the twins grew older and became a homosexual.

I realize thats a childish example, but I belive it helps prove my point.

alexg · 02-13-2005, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by paxton

Who is qualified to answer the original quesion? Homosexuals, heterosexuals, or both?

both, if they have the knowledge... but i'm not sure humanity has that knowledge today undoubtedly..

2HousePlague · 02-13-2005, 06:24 PM

Sexuality: is it biological or psychological?

EXACTLY, idiots.

j-

Kassidy · 02-13-2005, 06:27 PM

'Nature vs nurture' is one of the most hotly debated issues in the world of genetics, psychology, and psychiatry. I seriously doubt you're going to find any valuable solution on a message board.....

LadyMischief · 02-13-2005, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunForOne

I see, you make a good point.

I just think that sexuality is a product of environment. No one is born "sexual"

The slow and gradual events of life define the meaning of sex and life for each indivdual person.

I believe you could separate identical twins at birth and put them two opposite households. I belive they would look and act different as they got older.

Lets say one lives with a Nice christian redneck familly in Texas. The other grows up with a lesbian couple in San Fransico.

Would you be surprised if one of the twins grew older and became a homosexual.

I realize thats a childish example, but I belive it helps prove my point.

Do a little more research on twins and you might revise that view.

http://sq.4mg.com/IQgenetics.htm
http://www.lcmedia.com/mind0005.htm
http://www.nyu.edu/classes/neimark/TWIN1.HTM
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...08/ai_n9248944

FunForOne · 02-13-2005, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

Sexuality: is it biological or psychological?

EXACTLY, idiots.

j-

The very basics of sexuality is biological. The acts and degrees of the acts are psychological.

When a gay man has an orgasm, it is the same feeling as a straight man. He has just made the "CHOICE" to get it by sticking it in some mans poop chute instead of some skanks what not.

Arousal Design · 02-13-2005, 06:31 PM

There's all kinds of studies that are done in the scientific community that I can't link you to but im sure you can search on about the sexual tendencies of animals other than humans (yes humans are animals) ....

Apparently, other animals have been shown to be homosexual.

Personally, I don't think it matters. If you're gay wether you choose it, or you're born into it, the result is the same ... you enjoy being that way and would rather live your life that way than straight.

BTW, homosexuality throughout history is well documented.

FunForOne · 02-13-2005, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Arousal Design

BTW, homosexuality throughout history is well documented.

So is murder

tungsten · 02-13-2005, 06:35 PM

psychological for sure

SuckOnThis · 02-13-2005, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PerfectionGirls

Its a choice. I bad one, but a choice. They can change, but either do not have the mental abilty to do so, or they just love the cock.

Bullshit. Why the fuck would anyone choose to be gay? They are ridiculed and looked down upon.

I could never choose to be gay, the thought of another guy sickens me.

FunForOne · 02-13-2005, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Bullshit. Why the fuck would anyone choose to be gay? They are ridiculed and looked down upon.

I could never choose to be gay, the thought of another guy sickens me.

Yea, but you were probably not ridiculed as a young guy. Alot of kids dont fit in to the "cool" crowd. The search for the reason that something is wrong with them.

They find other like people that blame it on their sexuality. "Its not my fault, I was born this way"
Its the easy way out.

Thats why they feel so relieved when they come out of the closet. They are publically admitting they were cool, just everyone was wrong about them.

tony286 · 02-13-2005, 06:50 PM

I think its alittle of both, I dont think its a choice.

SuckOnThis · 02-13-2005, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

Yea, but you were probably not ridiculed as a young guy. Alot of kids dont fit in to the "cool" crowd. The search for the reason that something is wrong with them.

They find other like people that blame it on their sexuality. "Its not my fault, I was born this way"
Its the easy way out.

Thats why they feel so relieved when they come out of the closet. They are publically admitting they were cool, just everyone was wrong about them.

I'm sorry, I don't buy it. A lot of people dont fit into the cool crowd and don't turn out gay. If anything it *may* have something to do with them being sexually abused as a child, but those people go both ways and it probably is environmentally caused. But a truly gay person was without a doubt born that way.

slipkid · 02-13-2005, 06:54 PM

True gay people know it is biological.

Experimentalists treat it as a choice.

sherie · 02-13-2005, 06:54 PM

LMFAO do you wake up in the morning saying "HEY, I'M GONNA BE AN IDIOT TODAY?"

No? well I would imagine the same goes for sexuality....does someone wake up in the AM and decide that they are going to go against the grain? Why even worry about the answer to your question, when half the fucking idiots on this board can't toss together a simple TGP let alone answer some Scientific/Biological question that has been going around for years...?

www.gay.com =) however, I'm sure half the rocket scientists in this thread have checked it out, hence, why they hate....

American Beauty, great movie, check it! :p

galleryseek · 02-13-2005, 06:59 PM

being gay is being wrong.

SuckOnThis · 02-13-2005, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by galleryseek

being gay is being wrong.

So is being a bible thumping conservative

SmokeyTheBear · 02-13-2005, 07:06 PM

in british columbia being gay is a mental disease # 304.1 right before beastiality and pedo's

Centurion · 02-13-2005, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunForOne

I see, you make a good point.

I just think that sexuality is a product of environment. No one is born "sexual"

The slow and gradual events of life define the meaning of sex and life for each indivdual person.

I believe you could separate identical twins at birth and put them two opposite households. I belive they would look and act different as they got older.

Lets say one lives with a Nice christian redneck familly in Texas. The other grows up with a lesbian couple in San Fransico.

Would you be surprised if one of the twins grew older and became a homosexual.

I realize thats a childish example, but I belive it helps prove my point.

I feel sorry for you if you think that proved anything.

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FunForOne Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 8,704	Its not biological. Its just like smoking. You aren't born a smoker, but once you see it, try it, and like it, you become chemically (bioligically) addicted. Its a choice most young adults make because its an easy reason to explain past problems such as not fitting in with the cool crowd or a ploy for attention or to gain access to a like minded group. No 2 year old kid is gay. Its a product of environment. If it were biological, homesexual males rectums would generate a natural lubricant.

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FunForOne Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 8,704	Answer me this: What if a gay man goes through his whole life without having sex with another man. Is he a homosexual? What if a straight man gets drunk and has gay sex. Is he gay? Sounds to me like those would be making "choices"

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