next generations of email not spam friendly - GoFuckYourself.com

Dirty Dane · 02-15-2005, 12:09 PM

Sadly, but needed, email traffic is gonna be 'reversed'. I.e. as you know the "remove me from list" today, a built in software on ISP mailservers will send back a reply where the sender has to confirm manually with a generated code in a small image (add me to your safelist). You already see this on website forms today. That means you have to have a valid email and use the same email to send again to get through the filters. The users can choose to use the filter or not, and instead of blocking senders, he can choose which emails to be on safelist. When signing up for emails on internet, he can provide a unique ID which the mailer can use (which will somehow be possible to integrate in scripts). This will helps him identify the sender, and remove the sender whenever he wants.
You can experience confirm kinda emails already, but this is far more advanced.

Further, mass emailing will be filtered away, if you not registering on central databases. It will be the choice of the ISPs if they gonna use the databases or not.

wow

groark · 02-15-2005, 12:17 PM

Hum.. But opt-in will still be possible

Dirty Dane · 02-15-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by groark

Hum.. But opt-in will still be possible

Yep - if you are registered and authorized.

Pipeline Q · 02-15-2005, 12:21 PM

This will never fly. Nobody wants to do that extra step. Those form validation codes all over the place are a pain as it is.

dready · 02-15-2005, 12:23 PM

I dunno, spam watch seems to work okay. You only have to confirm once.

Dirty Dane · 02-15-2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipeline Q

This will never fly. Nobody wants to do that extra step. Those form validation codes all over the place are a pain as it is.

Yes. Thats why people will have the choice to use it or not. Maybe we also will see different levels of "security", like in firewalls.

clickclickclick · 02-15-2005, 12:25 PM

if theres money to be made, it will be hacked.

Xplicit · 02-15-2005, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipeline Q

This will never fly. Nobody wants to do that extra step. Those form validation codes all over the place are a pain as it is.

Agreed. Too many legit businesses doing a lot of business via email.

This would reduce work productivity, I dont see major companies supporting this, unlike can-spam.

02-15-2005, 12:09 PM	#1
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	next generations of email not spam friendly Sadly, but needed, email traffic is gonna be 'reversed'. I.e. as you know the "remove me from list" today, a built in software on ISP mailservers will send back a reply where the sender has to confirm manually with a generated code in a small image (add me to your safelist). You already see this on website forms today. That means you have to have a valid email and use the same email to send again to get through the filters. The users can choose to use the filter or not, and instead of blocking senders, he can choose which emails to be on safelist. When signing up for emails on internet, he can provide a unique ID which the mailer can use (which will somehow be possible to integrate in scripts). This will helps him identify the sender, and remove the sender whenever he wants. You can experience confirm kinda emails already, but this is far more advanced. Further, mass emailing will be filtered away, if you not registering on central databases. It will be the choice of the ISPs if they gonna use the databases or not. wow

02-15-2005, 12:23 PM	#5
dready Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5,247	I dunno, spam watch seems to work okay. You only have to confirm once. __________________ ICQ: 91139591

02-15-2005, 12:25 PM	#7
clickclickclick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,227	if theres money to be made, it will be hacked. __________________ if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;) p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

02-15-2005, 12:17 PM	#2
groark So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 1,966	Hum.. But opt-in will still be possible

02-15-2005, 12:21 PM	#4
Pipeline Q Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,891	This will never fly. Nobody wants to do that extra step. Those form validation codes all over the place are a pain as it is.