Just ask yourself who you think the biggest drivers of signups (not traffic) on GFY are and where they send their traffic. If you can figure out the first part you will start to get an idea of how much they make.
There's not much point in just talking about volume, at least from a program owner's standpoint. On the sales side, there are three numbers to think about: sales volume, price per sale, and retention. Multiple all three and you get revenue.
But it's not even about revenue. It's about margins. We could easily do 5,000 signups a day... if we offered at $300PPS program. Huge sales volume, and we'd be bankrupt pretty damned quick. The trick is balancing revenue numbers with decent enough margins to keep growing the business and still have something of a life.
Well, you said "I've been in the paysite game for many years, and any affiliate that can direct 300 joins per day is the VERY rare exception." which lead me to believe you were talking about affiliates that can direct 300 joins.
You meant program owners?
BTW, I wasn't disagreeing with you. Just the opposite.
NP. I was talking about affiliates from a program owners stand point.
For an affiliate I think 100+ a day is alot
For a revhsare program I think 300+ is alot
For a PPJ program I think 1000+ is lot
Im talking regular joins not buying up xsells etc.
Bear in mind this is just talking signups. To discuss revenue you would need a new thread.
If your a paysite owner and you do more then 100+ joins per day consistently you are doing well. I'd say that 100 is the # of a good medium size company, and anyone doing 300+ would be a large company.
I would say 100+/day = nice small company, 400+/day a middle sized company and 1000+/day a big company
I don't think Lightspeed Cash is one of the biggest programs.
I think they are just popular on GFY but aren't anywhere near the size of Top Bucks, TCG etc.
Maybe they are the biggest revshare sponsor though, but not overall.
Shit, with deluxe pass I can rattle off 15-20 affiliates doing 15-50k a month and probally 200 more doing 1k or better.
I do betwen 14 and 18k and month with DP alone and Im not even one of their biggest affiliates. Heck, thats beer money
Shit, with deluxe pass I can rattle off 15-20 affiliates doing 15-50k a month and probally 200 more doing 1k or better.
I do betwen 14 and 18k and month with DP alone and Im not even one of their biggest affiliates. Heck, thats beer money
Duke
yes, DP is probably the biggest "revshare only" program, from the stats I saw some time ago on GFY, they make more NET than LSC in gross. They dont have to invest anything in design or expensive content, great system!
yes, DP is probably the biggest "revshare only" program, from the stats I saw some time ago on GFY, they make more NET than LSC in gross. They dont have to invest anything in design or expensive content, great system!
when you say that they don't have to invest in expensive content... you mean because they would be buying DVDs rather than pricier exclusive content?
Yes i originally meant afiliate programs but now its interesting to see what affiliates ( who dont own paysites and just send the traffic by free sites, tgp, etc) themselves are doing...
yes, DP is probably the biggest "revshare only" program, from the stats I saw some time ago on GFY, they make more NET than LSC in gross. They dont have to invest anything in design or expensive content, great system!
so Lightspeed is the second biggest revshare program?
wow, 200-300 sales a day is what a good med size sponsor can do? But I have done that (for a month straight even) just as an affiliate. Then stuck around a 100 or so for a long time.
I haven't been working as much on my own sales, but still do 20-30 a day.
even if you only did $10 a sale 300 is close to a million a year 1000 is closer to 4 million a year..
I dont think thats "good" or "great".
If your making 4 million a year , thats FANTASTIC.
Sales mean nothing, your gross means everything.
If your grossing over 50k a year your doing good , over 100k and your doing great. Over a million and you dont even bother reading threads on gfy about sales ...
gross is nothing Smokey.
100 sales /day (say $20/sale) is easily done by spending $5,000/day.
The top guy on that list is doing 12 signups a day. Sort of gives perspective to the girl who is raking in 2 mil a year and wanted to know if we were all doing that. She is smart enough to make 2 mil a year and too dumb to realize that is good money. What the fuck am i doing wrong?
The top guy on that list is doing 12 signups a day. Sort of gives perspective to the girl who is raking in 2 mil a year and wanted to know if we were all doing that. She is smart enough to make 2 mil a year and too dumb to realize that is good money. What the fuck am i doing wrong?
Affiliate is a webmaster sending joins to some one elses "affiliate program"
If you sent 100 sales a day to flash cash you would be a affiliate doing alot of sales IMHO
.-)
anyway, i sent them around 4 sales a day in one month before two years, and i was webmaster ranking on 25 positon.
i dont think that their top ten webmasters are doing much more, maybe something between 15-30 sales a day (?).
on the other side i would be glad to make such amount of sales a day with all my sponsors :-)
Steve has mastered his niche, there's no doubt about that, but saying Lightspeed is one of the "bigger programs" is probably stretching it. I doubt they do anything close to what Top Bucks, ARS, APC, Pimp Roll, Silver Cash, or any of the other multi-niche PPS programs do. Those guys are the "bigger programs".
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The top guy on that list is doing 12 signups a day. Sort of gives perspective to the girl who is raking in 2 mil a year and wanted to know if we were all doing that. She is smart enough to make 2 mil a year and too dumb to realize that is good money. What the fuck am i doing wrong?
Who is the girl that is raking in 2 million a year?
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