Land of the Free, home of the brave

[DarkJedi]

Tell us bout your'freedoms' again..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4249831.stm

[Fletch XXX]

labd the useless and the retarded: America

land built on giving small pox infestesd blankets to indians, biological warfare is our game - America

[nofx]

land of the free, enough of the lies

[Manowar]

gotta love "freedom"

[Dina_C9]

I can't believe this shit!!! Bush should go fucking DIE!

[Fletch XXX]

actually - this is not new.

other states have tried and it didnt pass.

virginia is not the original in this, i know for a fact some down south places like Lousiana had people pushing for this, and actually it was a BLACK politician going for it.

the black right wingers down south are scary

[FunForOne]

US constitutional Ammendment

Article [X.]

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.



so, according to your logic, if the constitution doesn't specifically prohibit 27 year old teachers from having sex with 13 year olds, then the people's representatives dont have a say and should shut the fuck up.

[Dildozer]

LOL free my ass, you're pretty much more free in Canada than in the US nowadays
God bless my backwards country

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Dildozer

LOL free my ass, you're pretty much more free in Canada than in the US nowadays
God bless my backwards country

can you name or show an example, im curious. never been to canada

[Scott McD]

But others hit back, urging legislators to remember their own "fashion follies" and saying the law would be used mostly against black people.

The race card

[FunForOne]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

can you name or show an example, im curious. never been to canada

Yes, In Canada they have both kinds of news, liberal and ultra liberal.

There is no restriction on Healthcare options. You can hurry up and wait for the brain surgery, or you can not have it at all.


Full of freedom and options!

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by FunForOne

There is no restriction on Healthcare options. You can hurry up and wait for the brain surgery, or you can not have it at all.

in america you can buy the best healhcare in the world, how does this make canada more free?

please show a real example

[FunForOne]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

in america you can buy the best healhcare in the world, how does this make canada more free?

please show a real example

I was being sarcastic. Canada is not free by any means. They tell them are, so they believe it. How would they know, they are censored from all the real information.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by FunForOne

I was being sarcastic. Canada is not free by any means. They tell them are, so they believe it. How would they know, they are censored from all the real information.

ah heh i see now

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

The race card

yeah they use it there like its air or something.....

[Dildozer]

Originally Posted by FunForOne

I was being sarcastic. Canada is not free by any means. They tell them are, so they believe it. How would they know, they are censored from all the real information.

And how the fuck are we censored? You don't know jack shit. Keep watching Fox news you brainless fuck.

[el_greco]

I'll put it to you this way...if we weren't "free" then the goverment would have already been at your door dragging your happy ass to the goulag for that comment!


I'm all for that new law, as long as they still allow hotties to wear low-rise jeans with thongs peeking out.

[directfiesta]

Bush better not visit ..

Bush filmed in underwear
By Mark Simpson
BBC Ireland correspondent at Dromoland Castle

When the US president arranged a visit to Ireland in an election year he wanted to make sure the folks back home could see him - but not dressed in a vest.

George W Bush appeared at the window of an Irish castle wearing a white undergarment, rather than his traditional shirt and tie.

It may have been bedtime, but the president was wide awake to the potential public relations dangers.

After spotting the camera, he quickly backtracked, and allowed one of his aides to open the bedroom window instead.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3842335.stm

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Dildozer

And how the fuck are we censored? You don't know jack shit. Keep watching Fox news you brainless fuck.

can you show me example?

i heard some television channels in canada is run by government, does government own channels in canada?

if so, its no different than fox

[FunForOne]

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Here's Matt in Windsor, Canada. Welcome to the program, Matt, nice to have you on with us.

CALLER: Mega dittos from Canada. I just want to say to the Americans that a lot of Canadians are grateful for voting Bush in, and the reason why is because we have a -- you've probably read about our military, or the lack of it. We have 10,000 military personnel for Canada. We have subs that sink, ships that break down and we just bought a bunch, a rusty fleet from England, and we had one sailor killed on bringing them back because the electrical panel blew up and it almost sunk.

But you know, we have 10,000 military personnel, and New York City has 15,000 police officers, I'm told. So... I mean that shows you for 44 million people in Canada (laughing) where we are as a people. We're so far left up here because of Trudeau 30 years ago. I mean, we're paying for it. Like one thing people don't realize. Everybody tries to use Canada as the example of how great everything is if you're just left. On $105,000 me and my wife have to pay $30,000 off the top income tax. Anybody above $115,000 that they make has to pay 45% of that to the government. That's just off the top. Then we have a sales tax that is 15%. Fifteen 15 cents on every dollar you spend, you have to pay to the government.

RUSH: Let me tell you something, this sounds like a paradise for American liberals.

CALLER: (Groans) Oh. Oh!

RUSH: I understand why they're headed that way.

CALLER: Tell 'em to come because (laughing). I mean, they want to pay the tax up here? I worked on the water, and I tried to educate a lot of Americans because I hear all this garbage about how great Canada is from the universities over there. They preach the same crap. Like, Canada is in the position -- Canada is excelled. Where your leftists are, we're about 30 years in advance of where leftism has taken us. We are so taxed. I mean, there's $500 on licensing fees on a car every year. Five hundred! You know, in Canada, Canadian money, that's like a week's pay, two weeks' pay. I mean that's just... Property tax, 1,200 square foot home, $3,000, you've got 24-by-60-foot backyard. It's just everything. I mean, our --

RUSH: And still they have health care for everybody but you've got long lines. You have to wait for things and it doesn't work.
CALLER: Oh, long lines? People were miscarrying in the waiting rooms because... I got a piece of copper in my finger from an injury at work. I waited 15 hours! I could have went home, slept, and come back. Fifteen hours to take a chunk of copper out of my hand.

RUSH: You could probably taken it out of your hand just as well as the doctors there could have.

CALLER: Well, that's exactly what happened. This doctor, she come in wired on coffee; she was a student doctor, and she got a little piece of it. My wife had to take the rest of it home. This is our great health care system. Our health care system, I'll give you an example. By 2025 in Canada we will have a shortage of nurses because they're all retiring and the people aren't going into the field up here because it doesn't pay. They're fleeing to the United States because they capped the wages on doctors and nurses up here.

RUSH: And patients are leaving Canada to be treated in the United States as well.

CALLER: I know -- and one thing I want to say to America, about this. You hear about people coming to get medication to Canada. Well, here's the dirty secret. You guys are doing all the research and product development! We cap the price on you when you bring your drugs in here, you guys pay for all the research and development. We make the profits. We don't research and develop! You guys do all the work. We make the profit off it. We -- we can afford to cap it, lower the prices, because we're not doing anything. We don't do anything! Merck and all these other companies, Wyeth and all these other companies do the work; we bring 'em in here. We rip you guys off with generic drugs and the Americans come in here and they wonder why they're paying less prices. I mean, if people want leftism in the states, like we have one government controlled news agency. It's called the CBC. We conservatives refer to it as the "Communist Broadcasting Company," and the government appoints the head of it.

RUSH: Yeah, we know well the CBC. They're preventing this program being syndicated up there. They always have.
CALLER: I'll tell you. There are a lot of people who listen to (Sean) Hannity, you, Dennis Prager. There are a lot of good conservatives who are just waiting, waiting. I tell you what, they lobby to keep -- you know your satellite dishes? They lobbied the Bell Telephone up here to keep your satellite dishes out because under law called Canada Content, they don't want American news in here. Like for four weeks me and my wife almost vomited. I had to watch -- we didn't have to watch it; we watched it just to be educated on what the liberals and leftists are doing -- they bashed Bush for four weeks. This is the crap that people watch up here!

RUSH: I understand.

CALLER: And they think it's the honest-to-God truth.

RUSH: I know. We know this.

CALLER: I'm just saying: Americans, if you think liberalism is working, police stop using Canada. Every time I hear Canadians used as an example. "Oh, Canada look at how lush and lovely it is!" We're freaking working for the government up here!

RUSH: (Laughing, applauding)

CALLER: We struggle. And my wife makes good money. We're considered top earners in Canada.

RUSH: What is that, how much do you and your wife earn combined?

CALLER: I'm off for a year with my kids because of the -- well, that's another story, the day care system. But we were making $105,000 a year. Cars up here, $40,000 for a car.

RUSH: Well, wait, wait, wait, wait. What kind of car?

CALLER: A minivan. A Chrysler minivan. On a home we pay $15,000 government sales tax called the GST. (goods and services tax) On a car you pay a GST and PST (provincial sales tax) You pay a ton of tax on the car. The government taxes... Okay, if you sell a car three times, it's taxed three times.

RUSH: What most people are asking as they listen to you is, "Why are you still there?" Why haven't you left?

CALLER: Me and my wife have talked about it. Recently it's gotten so crazy, we're talking about moving down there. I had an issue when I was a younger person, and I got in trouble with the law when I was a young man, and if you were in trouble with the law even once it's hard to move to the United States. I have to pay legal --
RUSH: Noooo, it's not! Just go to Mexico and come up that way.

CALLER: We're talking about moving. I talked about that the other day.

RUSH: (Laughing)

CALLER: I said, "You know what, Cheryl? Let's move, because this is..." and then this lie that everybody hates Bush in Canada? It's not true!

RUSH: I know. I know. That's one of the biggest myths out there, and not just in Canada, but around the world, not just hates Bush but hates America, and it's one of these popular media myths. Bush is so reviled here by the American left that they'll join forces with anybody that hates Bush, and have some sort of alignment with them simply because they're so blinded by their own seething rage and hatred which I think is getting worse, as we predicted, since the election. Well, Matt, I'm glad you called. I appreciate it. Thanks very much.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by el_greco

I'll put it to you this way...if we weren't "free" then the goverment would have already been at your door dragging your happy ass to the goulag for that comment!

there are still degrees of freedom fool. ie holland is more free then the US.

US
nudity: no
weed: no

Germany
nudity: yes
weed: no

Holland:
nudity: yes
weed: yes

[FunForOne]

Originally Posted by Dildozer

And how the fuck are we censored? You don't know jack shit. Keep watching Fox news you brainless fuck.

fuck you asshole.

Your blind, you just dont know it

[Dildozer]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

can you show me example?

i heard some television channels in canada is run by government, does government own channels in canada?

if so, its no different than fox

Only 2, a french one and an english one.
Any TV station has it's bias. CBC actually does a good job a showing pretty much everything and funny enough they don't need to censor curse words or do voiceovers on movies to cover curse words because some psycho conservative mom will give them shit.
We get a lot of american stations too, also some european ones.

However my government doesn't have the right to arrest anyone under any suspicion because of a "patriot" act. Nor does our government keep us under constant fear of terrorism with a terror alert level or those priceless ready.gov ads.

[BRISK]

Originally Posted by FunForOne

But you know, we have 10,000 military personnel, and New York City has 15,000 police officers, I'm told. So... I mean that shows you for 44 million people in Canada (laughing) where we are as a people

Those stats are not correct at all.

[FunForOne]

Originally Posted by BRISK

Those stats are not correct at all.

I have no clue. That was just an interesting transcript I copied and pasted.


What are the correct figures?

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Tell us bout your'freedoms' again..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4249831.stm

I love third world trash explaining how bad America is.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Dildozer

However my government doesn't have the right to arrest anyone under any suspicion because of a "patriot" act. Nor does our government keep us under constant fear of terrorism with a terror alert level or those priceless ready.gov ads.

and many, many americans do not agree with patriot act.

you seem to think america VOTED this in, or actually had a say in the PATRIOT ACT.

umm, in case you missed it - we didnt. just like the war.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Dildozer

However my government doesn't have the right to arrest anyone under any suspicion because of a "patriot" act. Nor does our government keep us under constant fear of terrorism with a terror alert level or those priceless ready.gov ads.

its amazing how uninformed canadians are.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

and many, many americans do not agree with patriot act.

you seem to think america VOTED this in, or actually had a say in the PATRIOT ACT.

umm, in case you missed it - we didnt. just like the war.

and just as amazing how uninformed some americans are.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

and just as amazing how uninformed some americans are.

For once, you are right ....