51 bad domains :)

Good dialogue. Nice to see registrars jumping in here and giving us their feedback.

:thumbsup

I'll check out http://www.moniker.com/

Thanks Moniker Man.

Also, why does it say "blacklisted" for your domain:
http://whois.sc/moniker.com
http://whois.sc/rbl/?ip=64.49.213.249

Does Moniker have live 24/7 support, including holidays?

Blacklisted - that's not good ... does Moniker send out bulk email advertising?

Ron

Monte, what's your bulk price for xfer/reg domains?

1000+?
10000+?

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What is that? I mean what makes this so great?

How stupid do you have to be to not know that Namecheap wasn't an enom reseller?

There's a relatively "new" thing called a WHOIS search. In the WHOIS search, you can see your WHOIS server information.

Just goes to show... Karma to the email spammers.

:1orglaugh

I didnt know because I didnt look..... I assumed they were ICANN acredited, and didnt see the need to check it out.... If I had seen a need to look I am perfectly aware of what 'whois' is

Its irrelevent to the general point of the origional post anyway

Oh yes and....... :321GFY

The point is that u dont need to be a spammer to have the domain withdrawn

U just need to piss off someone and have them send an email to the registrar saying you are.

Is adultnex.com your domain BTW? I see that it was registered with GoDaddy, they are one of the registrars that will pull a domain with a single unverified complaint ........ Of course I wouldnt do a thing like that to you, but I could, see the problem? :winkwink:

Apparently, you were bitching before you even contacted Namecheap directly to sort things out.

My experience with Namecheap was that they'd go head over heels to try and help you with a issue you're having.

I don't see how there would be any connection between being ICANN accredited and not being a reseller. Hell, I'd say most of the top 10% of ICANN accredited registrars are resellers.

No, I don't own adultnex.com anymore. I wouldn't touch Godaddy with a 10-foot pole with an adult domain.

Lest it be forgotten, GoDaddy also gobbles your domain for alleged referrer marketing. They don't need proof. ZAP. It happened to us, because a tool we sold had our domain as its default user-agent string.

Fair enough Monte.

I just hate like hell to be brushed with the same stroke as eNom resellers, and when I am faced with what I and my clients believed to be Domain Name Systems bashing by a registrar, and being wiped with the same swath as eNom resellers, yes, I may have misread your intentions with the post.

We are not equal, in what I believe to be any respect, with eNom resellers, and I did try eNom at one point, so yes, this isn't simply 'competition' bashing. Again, I have my reasons.

Because we are accredited for several extentions, our business is on par to that of other registrars, and we have been in business since there were only 5 registrars of the Icann variety.

These actions are really not that surprising by Enom or for that matter GoDaddy. You have to wonder how much a registrar will back their clients, when they are only making 10 or 20 cents a domain name. Its small wonder that some just shut the domain off.

Good luck with your continued growth Monte, I am certain our paths will cross again.


Best Regards
Gord
http://www.domainnamesystems.com


You can put away the popcorn Taboo .. lol

but we love popcorn and "fake drama" :1orglaugh

GORD, what's your bulk pricing?

1000+
10000+

you get what you pay for.. dont be so cheap and go with a real company that wont just lock domains for no reason

TabooDomains.com?

hey! another vicki
... well at least you spell your name differently, i'd hate for people to get us mixed up lol

Monte,

I am going to have to agree with Gordon here. I represent NameCheap.com and I think your post lacks total class. Keep your sales pitches to your own thread rather than attacking our reputation(which we have worked VERY hard for) in a thread that involves us. Just because we are a re-seller does not mean that people are going to get screwed. If anything, because of our size, enom listens MORE to what we say. We have direct communication all the way up to the CEO. If we do not think something is fair we will make it known and in most cases something will get done. Otherwise we will take our business is elsewhere(and that is ALOT of business to lose). You make it seem like you offer bullet proof DNS which is not the case so stop pretending it is. You also insinuate that you are the only one that supports adult clientele which is also not the case.

Damon,
Please send me an email with the subject "ATTENTION: Richard Kirkendall" and I will see what I kind find out about your situation. I know enom does not shut down domains just because Joe Schmoe sends and email to complain. There has to be actual evdidence there. Anyways let me know and I will do my absolute best to correct any injustices done if that is in fact the case.

Best,

Richard Kirkendall
NameCheap.com

And yes, we were REALLY referred here by one of our clients and not just using that as an excuse to spam our services.....

Richard, so what does it take for Enom to pull a domain? Alot of people have moved from godaddy as a result of having this hanging over them, and I know alot people encouraged namecheap as a safe alternative. I have been registering all my domains there, and whilst I don't bulk mail I do mail optin and I know no matter what on the scale I mail it generates complaints. I am seriously considering now moving to another register due to the manner in which people like enom seem to deal with these issues (you have the domain one day, than it is pulled next). I honestly think you should talk to enom more and make them guarantee to give plenty of warning and time for a webmaster to at least dispute the claims, or you might loose a bit of business. Personally, I don't think domain registrars should have the power over these kinds of things, and I honestly think you should find a way to make sure domains don't get pulled save for extreme circumstances, and even than the webmaster is given prior warning and time to defend themselves.

Odin,

If you are sending out to opt-in lists there should be no problems with this.

If you ever have issues with this let me know and I will make sure to be on top of it. Believe me, if enom where to begin to shut down domains simply because they received an email complaint from someone(with no evidence to back it up) we would definitely consider this a serious issue and do something about it.

I know opt in lists generate complaints no matter what, and like I said on the scale I send they generate enough. If enom or namecheap isn't going to contact me before pulling my domain than it is going to loose me hundred's/thousand's of dollars worth of traffic when that domain gets ripped out from under me. If Namecheap can't guarantee to at least provide a good amount of prior time and a chance for the webmaster to defend themselves I really don't see how I can risk that kind of money. I haven't had any problems up until now, but I don't want any either. If enom wants to act like the judge, jury and executioner than they sure as hell better listen to both sides of the story before coming down with a verdict.

sux because spoofing the sender is so damn easy..

Its great to see someone from NameCheap in here ... I said in a previous post that they have a reputation built on word of mouth - and this proves that this reputaion is well founded.

I have sent Richard an email (to [email protected]) with the details and it will be interesting to see what they and Enom say about the situation. Its difficult because I have an expectation of privacy, and I know NameCheap will respect that.

As always I will keep u informed......

I would say that statement is in all probability bullshit - pure and simple. From reading the thread there seems a better than good chance that Enom are bowing to pressure from Spamhaus or similar.

As anyone with half a clue in this business is aware, Spamhaus are little more than a bunch of vigilante assholes with a huge hard on for 'fighting spam' that are VERY indiscriminate about who and what they block and will do so on the flimsiest of evidence.

Indeed as most know, often they will not only block just the offender but anyone even close to being on the same IP block as a 'punishment' to the naughty host for allowing it in the first place.

As has also been mentioned it is more than possible to run your own legit double opt in style program, making 100% sure every mail was from someone that signed to YOUR list, and still get a lot of complaints from idiots if done on a large scale (the wife/boss sees the porn but of course it was never requested and must be spam so they'll complain). In this situation Spamhaus will usually be more than happy to shove yet another 'evil spammer' on their list and again also blacklist those even more innocent sharing that IP block.

Don't get me wrong - I truly despise true spam and spammers. But then I also despise vigilante assholes with only half a clue who decide that they are going to be the world police for spam. Give someone like that a little power and...

Spamhaus et al do far more to make e-mail unusable than any spammer (be on the wrong IP block and see how many people actually get your mails) and for people such as domain companies to listen to them too is insane.

Again, I am presuming it is a Spamhaus or similar issue as at least one major domain company has said it already bows to them. Even if not many of the points are still very valid.

Are you kidding?
 

Gord,

I would use namecheap or moniker or ANYONE before using your service. To claim YOU are lilly white is in conflict with your past behavior. I would NEVER trust a domain to YOU. NEVER!!! Maybe folks don't know your history and it is not for me to tell them. BUT I DO!

Damian, please excuse me as I forgot to mention this; please forward the email to [email protected] or [email protected] with attention to me.



Thanks.

Round 2...

everyone vs. everyone... registrar deathmatch

did anyone bring the:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

this is a great thread. even more reasons to move forward with my plan.

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:warning wow. Rick came out of his way for this? HOLY SH!T.

Rick, I'm still pissed off at you for costing me extra years ago on ModelingAgency.com :)

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Registrars should not pull domains for any reason be it spamming, spamming allegations, illegal content, whatever.

Leave that to the host.

:1orglaugh LOL. The world's first Adult-Registrar Specialists!

nah.... something more corporate like OFFICIAL.com :winkwink:

maybe, maybe not. I've got a few domains to choose from.

most likely it'll be $7 incl ICANN tax(LOL). w/ whois-privacy, lock, global changes, ppc management, drop software, our own custom domain/traffic manager software... and of course blog software. :)

unless of course, if a registrar reading this thread beats me to it... either way we all win!

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Hey Taboo!! How have you been?

I'll take it off your hands for a handsome profit. lol

it's not fair if I sell it to you... you know what I paid. :) miss chatting with you guys. I'm going to go thru my emails and re-join your site... if you'll have me.

[email protected]

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Email sent to you on how to join.

done. plus email sent with :warning.

that about sums it up! i hope they're all paying attention.

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woohoo I <3 Moniker, I think Moniker is the best registrar out there these days. Still have to figure out where I can get the whois protection tho :upsidedow

dotster used to be pretty good for that stuff but i havent done anything with it in a while

after reading this thread ill keep my eyes peeled though

but wasn't Dotster the one that Sleazy's domain got jacked from?

yes it was actually

In response to several questions and comments above - Richard, I already posted an apology on Rick's board. I am sorry my post was taken the wrong way.

I posted the following: "Richard - the message was not directed at you. I was (or attempting to) clarify that so many people think that they are working with ICANN Accredited Registrars when in fact they are dealing with a reseller. As a former premier reseller for most of the large registrars on the market, I know from first hand experience that you are not in control of what your registrar can do in terms of changing policy.

The thread started out about how domains were being shut down by the registrar even though the customer had their domains at what they thought was the registrar when in fact it was the reseller.

I personally apologize to you if you took my post as a personal attack of you or your company. Those that know me here and an all forums, know that we are a company of integrity and we prefer to work with everyone rather than not.

Again, my sincere apologies to you and your company. Please call or email me if you still feel there is an issue.

thanks,

monte"

Now - Regarding bulk pricing, we provide special pricing for all board and forum members. Just email me at [email protected].

Yes we offer one of the only ICANN compliant whois privacy services where we do all the screening and notification to our privacy customers. It works great. We currently do not provide this through the web site but our new site due out in early March, will have this as an option and we will offer it at a great price. email me if you would like this on your domains now.

Moniker.com is blacklisted???? Where is it black listed and by who? When we purchased the name (from one of our own customers) we found out a year later that both google and yahoo had it blacklisted because it was a ppc landing page. We did get that cleared up. Yes we are listed in spews because we have a lot of clients that do email and........

We do not spam or do email.

In any case, I hope I addressed the questions

Not right to slag a guy through innuendo Rick. If you're really interested in warning the public about this registrar, come out and make your case directly.

I've always wondered about these guys myself, so some direct facts would be nice.
:2 cents:

Waa this thread has turned so interesting.... :pimp :pimp

I don't need to go into it....BUT....if THIS is the guy you would trust all your domains with.....then GOOD LUCK!

http://hirise.biz/shows/vegas/p6280056.jpg

he looks like my next door neighbor. I might trust him with my domains, but would never let him borrow my lawn mower again! :1orglaugh


j/k.


wish there was a way to read between the lines...

btw, Monte, email sent. I do understand where you're coming from and judging by the replies in this thread and many other domain boards, some people do not know if their registrar is a reseller or not. not to say that resellers are not to be trusted. but in this debate, each side makes valid/invalid points.

most importantly...

...is the bottom line that domainers are always at risk of having their domains deleted? and this is at the registrar-level? not ICANN-enforced?

if so, I would love a registrar or reseller (if it's in their power) to put in writing that they will NEVER delete your domain. (unless a GOV'T agency demands it)

my prediction: that registrar would have so many domains transferred to them.

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appearance says nothing, I'm sorry but if this guy really is a crook you have to back your case. At least tell us why we should avoid doing business with him.

I never had a problem with Dotster. To "jack" a domain there you'd need to be logged in and request a transfer. Is this what happened to Sleazy?

A better use for spamhaus or whoever is to contact upstream providers to come down on hosts if need be. Not pull the domain itself.

IMHO anyway.

I never called him a "Crook", you did.

I just said he would be the last person I would TRUST with MY domains.

Have fun guys.

Taboo,

Here is the way we handle it, we will never delete a domain name at Moniker.com unless the following occur:

1. court order
2. Agreement by registrant to do so
3. domain creates major problems or has a problem history and registrant fails to respond in a reasonable period of time. This would include getting us blacklisted or reported in spews.

We always notify our customers when there is a problem first, then together work on an action plan that meets both parties needs. We will not just delete a domain name without notice and have never done so. We also can move domains into disputed and problem accounts before taking other actions as preliminary step.

Let me know if I can help you with this.