ISRAEL still stealing land .... - GoFuckYourself.com

directfiesta · 09-25-2004, 06:32 PM

'State land' loophole allows appropriation

By Aluf Benn

Israel is continuing to expropriate territory in the West Bank, under the guise of "state lands" to expand settlements, data from the Civil Administration shows. At least part of these areas received were appropriated with the direct approval of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz.

Since the start of 2004, some 2,200 dunams of land in the West Bank have been declared state lands. These include land in Givat Eitam in Ofrat, and land designated for use as the Border Police headquarters in Metsudat Adumim.

Last year 1,700 dunams of land in the West Bank were designated state lands, such as the area between the Palestinian village of Bet Ichsa and the settlement of Givat Ze'ev. The authorizations given by Sharon and Mofaz were made after preparatory work was presented to them by the assistant to the Defense Minister for settlement affairs, Ron Shechner.

The Sharon government made a commitment to the Bush administration in 2003 that construction in the settlements beyond existing building zones would be placed on hold, and is now in negotiations with the U.S. administration over the territorial limits of the settlements.

The Israeli promise to the U.S. includes a commitment not to expropriate territory for construction, but does not relate in any way to designating areas as "state lands."

The "state lands" designation has consistently served the governments of Israel in establishing and expanding settlements. In the late 1970s the Supreme Court forbade the expropriation of private Palestinian property for settlements.

The then director of the Civil Section at the State Attorney's office, Felia Albak, developed a legal mechanism that relied on Ottoman Land Law, and permitted the designation of extensive tracts of land in the West Bank as state lands, allocating them to the settlements.

There are currently 700,000 dunam - 13 percent of the West Bank before June 5, 1967 - under different stages of "review", according to non-government sources collecting data on the Israeli activities in the territories. At the end of the "review" process it is possible to designate these lands "state lands."

The majority of these tracts are in southern Mount Hebron, in the area of Gush Etzion, and on both sides of the trans-Samaria highway.

Regarding the data of the non-government sources, a Defense Ministry source said that the data is irrelevant because the land in question may be considered "state land" but in practice only a small portion of it is being handled as such.

"It is sufficient that someone 20 years ago marked a particular piece of land as possible state land," the source says, in order for that area to be placed in the data bank of the "review process," even if no one actually did carry out a review.

The legal department of the Civil Administration is currently busy with the appropriation of lands for the building of the separation fence - an effort that is based on a different legal process - and in dealing with the illegal outposts.

The designation of areas as "state lands" is on a low priority, and non-government sources estimate that the Civil Administration officials are only handling several dozen such cases.

Many of the illegal outposts in recent years were set up in the West Bank on "survey lands," as part of an effort to alter their status at a later date to state lands and therefore legalize the establishment of the outpost.

Data made public by B'tselem two years ago, between 1967 and 1979, shows approximately 700,000 dunam were designated "state lands" in the West Bank, most in the Jordan Valley.

In legal steps undertaken by Albak during the years 1980-1984, an additional 800,000 dunam were selected and declared "state lands," serving as the main source of land for the establishment of settlements.

Since the designation of state lands has slowed down significantly, but never completely ended.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/481655.html

I love the " Road Map " toi peace.... ( includes the US supplying 5,000 "smart bombs," including 500 "bunker busters," to the Israeli Air Force. )

Nice going

David! · 09-25-2004, 06:38 PM

There's a hurricane in South Florida.
They are still finding bodies in Haiti.
Jamaica and the Cayman Islands are totally devastated.
1.2 Millions people are starving to death in Darfur, Sudan.
10,000 children are dying each day in Africa.
Iran and North Korea are almost ready to blow up some nukes.
The United States is coming upon one of the most important elections of her history.

And you still have time to think about Israel?

Dude, you suffer from OCD. You need to get help as soon as possible!!!

baddog · 09-25-2004, 06:44 PM

pretty smart . . . not sure why they gave back any land they took in the 6 Day War anyhow

QuaWee · 09-25-2004, 06:47 PM

so pitiful. taking advantage of people like that

Joe Citizen · 09-25-2004, 06:48 PM

Israel will get what is coming to it.

directfiesta · 09-25-2004, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PussyMan
There's a hurricane in South Florida.
They are still finding bodies in Haiti.
Jamaica and the Cayman Islands are totally devastated.
1.2 Millions people are starving to death in Darfur, Sudan.
10,000 children are dying each day in Africa.
Iran and North Korea are almost ready to blow up some nukes.
The United States is coming upon one of the most important elections of her history.

And you still have time to think about Israel?

Dude, you suffer from OCD. You need to get help as soon as possible!!!

LOL ....

So I can go steal a bit of land in the US, and it is not important because of what is happenning elsewhere....

Anything for the blind...

At least Baddog answer make sense, even if I don't share his point of vue...

David! · 09-25-2004, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
LOL ....

So I can go steal a bit of land in the US, and it is not important because of what is happenning elsewhere....

Anything for the blind...

At least Baddog answer make sense, even if I don't share his point of vue...

There is no sense to be made with you. You are set against Israel and the United States. You need help!

There is nothing wrong with not liking some countries, BUT EVERY SINGLE POST YOU MAKE IS ABOUT ISRAEL OR THE UNITED STATES!!!!!

Get a life! Have some sex! Get a parrot!
There is more to life than hatred!

slavdogg · 09-25-2004, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
pretty smart . . . not sure why they gave back any land they took in the 6 Day War anyhow

If not for the US, Israel would have kept Sinai as well
they won the lands, they should keep them
Fake Palestinians better known as Arabs can go live in Jordan

David! · 09-25-2004, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg
If not for the US, Israel would have kept Sinai as well
they won the lands, they should keep them
Fake Palestinians better known as Arabs can go live in Jordan

Actually Palestine is a British invention, a gift to Saudi Arabia dating back to 1917, as the Saudis did not want to see a Jewish State on their door steps.

CheneyRumsfeld · 09-25-2004, 07:03 PM

I think that is fantastic!
go get em Jews!
Long live Israel!

directfiesta is an asshole!

acratophorum · 09-25-2004, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PussyMan
There is no sense to be made with you. You are set against Israel and the United States. You need help!

There is nothing wrong with not liking some countries, BUT EVERY SINGLE POST YOU MAKE IS ABOUT ISRAEL OR THE UNITED STATES!!!!!

Get a life! Have some sex! Get a parrot!
There is more to life than hatred!

Fucking right man! I had a whole arguement with directfiesta over these issues. His answer was for me to move out of my parents basement or some other dumbass response.

directfiesta, oh wise one, if you have a better solution to resolve the crisis in the middle east, I am all ears.

All this guy ever does is blast his mouth off against Israel. Tell us what you would do.

acratophorum · 09-25-2004, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Israel will get what is coming to it.

And what might that be? Bombings? Oh wait, that's already happening.

directfiesta · 09-25-2004, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by acratophorum
Fucking right man! I had a whole arguement with directfiesta over these issues. His answer was for me to move out of my parents basement or some other dumbass response.

directfiesta, oh wise one, if you have a better solution to resolve the crisis in the middle east, I am all ears.

All this guy ever does is blast his mouth off against Israel. Tell us what you would do.

I never had any argument or discussion with you. I never even saw your nick begire today.

For your info, I have many post not related to Israel or the US... Maybe you should rad post on other subject instead of being obsessed with this topic...

And to finish, I just posted an articlle published in an Israeli paper, pointing out also the agreement to supply bombs to Israel,,,

You see what you want to see, and if you see what you said you see, that is because that is the case ...

I don;t think bombs and grabbing land, done by Israel or any other country, is a good approach to obtain peace....

But I could be wrong...

David! · 09-25-2004, 07:49 PM

If you agree with directfiesta, then you are a peace loving gentleman philosopher.
If you disagree with directfiesta, then you are living in your parents' basement.

trouserrat · 09-25-2004, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by acratophorum
Fucking right man! I had a whole arguement with directfiesta over these issues. His answer was for me to move out of my parents basement or some other dumbass response.

directfiesta, oh wise one, if you have a better solution to resolve the crisis in the middle east, I am all ears.

All this guy ever does is blast his mouth off against Israel. Tell us what you would do.

directfiesta is going to say something intelligent? Something other than liberal blather and talking points, propaganda, and Anti-American nonsense? Shit, I gotta hear this.

baddog · 09-25-2004, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by acratophorum
And what might that be? Bombings? Oh wait, that's already happening.

he must mean the entire West Bank, maybe the entire Sinai

directfiesta · 09-25-2004, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by trouserrat
directfiesta is going to say something intelligent? Something other than liberal blather and talking points, propaganda, and Anti-American nonsense? Shit, I gotta hear this.

I said nothing: I posted an article ...

Now, are you ever going to say something intelligent??? something other than republican blather and talking points, propaganda and pro-american nononsense?
Shit, I got a hear this...

David! · 09-25-2004, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
I said nothing: I posted an article ...

Now, are you ever going to say something intelligent??? something other than republican blather and talking points, propaganda and pro-american nononsense?
Shit, I got a hear this...

And what do you call what you are saying other than anti-American or anti-Israeli blather and talking points, propaganda and anit-American and anti-Israeli nonsense?

acratophorum · 09-25-2004, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
I never had any argument or discussion with you. I never even saw your nick begire today.

For your info, I have many post not related to Israel or the US... Maybe you should rad post on other subject instead of being obsessed with this topic...

And to finish, I just posted an articlle published in an Israeli paper, pointing out also the agreement to supply bombs to Israel,,,

You see what you want to see, and if you see what you said you see, that is because that is the case ...

I don;t think bombs and grabbing land, done by Israel or any other country, is a good approach to obtain peace....

But I could be wrong...

Firstly, we did get into a rather heated debate over a similar topic. I do read other threads, but when I noticed that you posted this in an attempt to slander Israel, I decided to throw in my

Everybody can say what is the wrong way of doing things. Pleae tell us what the RIGHT way is. Any idiot can say that killing people is wrong. I agree with that. But how should Israel deal with the Palestinians? Their leaders have rejected peace offer after peace offer. They will only be happy when Israel is destroyed.

How do you negotiate with unreasonable people? You can't.
In the mean time, Israel must deal with those trying to harm it's civilians.

Arabs all over the world blame Israel for the plight of the Palestinians. Why doesn't Jordan or Egypt or other Arab neighbors absorb them?

acratophorum · 09-25-2004, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
I said nothing: I posted an article ...

Funny how you would never post an article which shows the good things Israel is up to....

directfiesta · 09-25-2004, 08:01 PM

and stealing their land will solve the problem ????

Well maybe on the long run ... and that is what the Palestinians and arabs think also...
Anyway, don't read the article, don;t address the content, don't analyse the method...

Call it propaganda...

The only problem it is a jewish newspaper, not al-maja one....

I presume you are jewish.

trouserrat · 09-25-2004, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
I said nothing: I posted an article ...

Now, are you ever going to say something intelligent???

Yea, I started when I made post #1. Of course, this insult is coming from a person who just posted this:
"You see what you want to see, and if you see what you said you see, that is because that is the case ..."
Tell me this though, how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

(oops, almost forgot my little laugh guys

. Hint to other posters: they're what make directfiesta's thread factually correct and VERY cool)

directfiesta · 09-25-2004, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by acratophorum
Funny how you would never post an article which shows the good things Israel is up to....

To post one, you must first find one.

Be my guest if you find one, I didn't.

David! · 09-25-2004, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
and stealing their land will solve the problem ????

Well maybe on the long run ... and that is what the Palestinians and arabs think also...
Anyway, don't read the article, don;t address the content, don't analyse the method...

Call it propaganda...

The only problem it is a jewish newspaper, not al-maja one....

I presume you are jewish.

Back to the Jewish thing. So, only Jews can be pro-Israel?

directfiesta · 09-25-2004, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by trouserrat

(oops, almost forgot my little laugh guys . Hint to other posters: they're what make directfiesta's thread factually correct and VERY cool)

No this is a 12clicks trademark.

directfiesta · 09-25-2004, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PussyMan

Back to the Jewish thing. So, only Jews can be pro-Israel?

Didn't answer.

And mainly : yes.

Ironhorse · 09-25-2004, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
and stealing their land will solve the problem ????

Well maybe on the long run ... and that is what the Palestinians and arabs think also...
Anyway, don't read the article, don;t address the content, don't analyse the method...

Call it propaganda...

The only problem it is a jewish newspaper, not al-maja one....

I presume you are jewish.

Don't try to confuse us with facts. Next you will say something like there was an Israeli president/prime minister that was about to reach permanent peace solution with the Palestinians, but he was assasinated by some radical religious fanatic right? Sure buddy, sure there was.. and let me guess, this wonderful peace opportunity was all facilitated by some left wing liberal US politician, haha, now I'm really laughing at you..

</sarcasm>

directfiesta · 09-25-2004, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse
Don't try to confuse us with facts. </sarcasm>

No need to: already done.

David! · 09-25-2004, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
To post one, you must first find one.

Be my guest if you find one, I didn't.

Palestinian Given Israeli Suicide Bomb Victim's Kidneys
by reuters Thursday, Apr. 04, 2002 at 1:06 PM

A Palestinian woman received the kidneys of an Israeli victim of a suicide attack in a transplant operation Thursday. The victim, Zeev Vidor, died of his wounds a week after the attack by a Palestinian suicide bomber at a hotel in the seaside resort of Netanya as Israelis sat down for a traditional feast at the start of the Jewish Passover holiday.

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - A Palestinian woman received the kidneys of an Israeli victim of a suicide attack in a transplant operation Thursday.

The victim, Zeev Vidor, died of his wounds a week after the attack by a Palestinian suicide bomber at a hotel in the seaside resort of Netanya as Israelis sat down for a traditional feast at the start of the Jewish Passover holiday.

His family allowed his organs to be donated and recipients included Aisha Abu Said, 54, who lives in the Jerusalem suburb of Shuafat. The operation was performed in the Beilinson Hospital in the town of Petah Tikvah.

Abu Said's son Khader, a truck driver, said he had not been aware that the organ donor was a victim of a suicide bombing.

"Only today did I learn that my mother benefited from the victim of the Netanya attack. The family deserves better. I hope they think my thanks are sincere," Khader said.

Palestinian militants have killed scores of Israelis in suicide bombings as part of a more than 18-month-old uprising against Israeli occupation. Israel has occupied major West Bank towns in an offensive it says is intended to end the attacks.

acratophorum · 09-25-2004, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
and stealing their land will solve the problem ????

Well maybe on the long run ... and that is what the Palestinians and arabs think also...
Anyway, don't read the article, don;t address the content, don't analyse the method...

Call it propaganda...

The only problem it is a jewish newspaper, not al-maja one....

I presume you are jewish.

Answer the question. Tell us what will solve the problem. Stop saying what won't work, and start telling us what will.

The Israeli government has to answer to voters. If stealing land will keep the coalition government in tact, you better believe that's what's going to happen.

Do you think the arabs would do otherwise? Has Egypt not tried to take land? Have the palestinians not tried to take land?

People are always very qucik to complain about Israel. Arafat is worth billions of dollars which he stole from his own people. There is corruption in the PLO, and vigilante justice being carried out there ever day.

In Israel, arabs sit in congress and are treated with respect and dignity; gays and lesbians have equal rights; people of all races, ethnicities, orientations, genders etc...can actually elect thier own government. Israel has a justice system.

God forbid Israel harms a civilian to defend itself. If the arabs do it, it's ok because it was retaliation, right?

DR, you should go write for the AP

trouserrat · 09-25-2004, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
No this is a 12clicks trademark.

And I care because?

acratophorum · 09-25-2004, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
To post one, you must first find one.

Be my guest if you find one, I didn't.

What do you mean? Israel is at the forefront of technology. An Israeli scientist recently developed a system where people can be immunized without an actual injection.

directfiesta · 09-25-2004, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PussyMan
Palestinian Given Israeli Suicide Bomb Victim's Kidneys
by reuters Thursday, Apr. 04, 2002 at 1:06 PM

A Palestinian woman received the kidneys of an Israeli victim of a suicide attack in a transplant operation Thursday. The victim, Zeev Vidor, died of his wounds a week after the attack by a Palestinian suicide bomber at a hotel in the seaside resort of Netanya as Israelis sat down for a traditional feast at the start of the Jewish Passover holiday.

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - A Palestinian woman received the kidneys of an Israeli victim of a suicide attack in a transplant operation Thursday.

The victim, Zeev Vidor, died of his wounds a week after the attack by a Palestinian suicide bomber at a hotel in the seaside resort of Netanya as Israelis sat down for a traditional feast at the start of the Jewish Passover holiday.

His family allowed his organs to be donated and recipients included Aisha Abu Said, 54, who lives in the Jerusalem suburb of Shuafat. The operation was performed in the Beilinson Hospital in the town of Petah Tikvah.

Abu Said's son Khader, a truck driver, said he had not been aware that the organ donor was a victim of a suicide bombing.

"Only today did I learn that my mother benefited from the victim of the Netanya attack. The family deserves better. I hope they think my thanks are sincere," Khader said.

Palestinian militants have killed scores of Israelis in suicide bombings as part of a more than 18-month-old uprising against Israeli occupation. Israel has occupied major West Bank towns in an offensive it says is intended to end the attacks.

Good article

Even if 2 years old, I wont do like you guys saying : old news

Old news can still be good one.

David! · 09-25-2004, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
Good article

Even if 2 years old, I wont do like you guys saying : old news

Old news can still be good one.

There has been 17 cases like this

Rich · 09-25-2004, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
pretty smart . . . not sure why they gave back any land they took in the 6 Day War anyhow

I had a cousin die in a suicide bombing in Israel. My family thinks maybe it's not as smart a plan as you think it is.

baddog · 09-25-2004, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
I had a cousin die in a suicide bombing in Israel. My family thinks maybe it's not as smart a plan as you think it is.

this is family that lives in Israel that feels this way? What do they think should be done?

RobD · 09-25-2004, 08:36 PM

the UK has been stealing land for years, who gives a fuck? the only ones who care are the rightfull owners

Goatse · 09-25-2004, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by slavdogg
If not for the US, Israel would have kept Sinai as well
they won the lands, they should keep them

If not for the US, Israel would not even exist. And they thanked Uncle Sam by blowing up the U.S.S. Liberty. What grateful allies.

David! · 09-25-2004, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by Goatse
If not for the US, Israel would not even exist. And they thanked Uncle Sam by blowing up the U.S.S. Liberty. What grateful allies.

Hey buster, this happened in 1967 and was categorized as an accident. Furthermore it was before the United States decided she needed a strategic ally in the Middle East.
So, go back to your farm and take care of your goats

gxer · 09-26-2004, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg
If not for the US, Israel would have kept Sinai as well
they won the lands, they should keep them
Fake Palestinians better known as Arabs can go live in Jordan

i'm glad at least one person here knows that "palestinians" are
fake ones.
That's the main problem for all people who thinks they are poor.
They are not palestinians at all - they are arabs and even not local ones.
The fact is Jordan and Egypt many times was asked to take em
with all Gaza shit, byt they declined it many times.
The whole place here was full with turks more than beduins and it was a turkish occupation . the arabs known as "palestinians" was brought by england to satisfy arab world and part of them
is what we call Jordan now (not to mention the Amman was a jewish border village ).

None wants them - "poor palestinians".

Someone , please take em all

</ gon pizduna >

VirtuMike · 09-26-2004, 03:24 AM

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PALESTINE.

I don't know how many times that needs to be repeated. Look on a map. Do you see "Palestine" anywhere on it?

The arabs claiming they are "palestinians" do not belong on Israeli land. Some of them are very poorly behaving guests.

I don't know why some people insist that the land belongs to them. The Jews were there first, the Jews are there currently, and the reason the "palestinians" are there now is because nobody else in the ENTIRE WORLD wants them. Furthermore, the arabs lost a war they started and had to give up the land they had stolen from the Jews in the first place.

If you're against Israel and for arabs, you need your head examined. Have you any idea how screwed up these people are? Why don't you go over there and sit down and talk to them. I know you probably can't afford a plane ticket to go there, but try using the time you spend badmouthing Israel to work instead, and save up the money you have to go meet some "palestinians" and see what they think is going on. Hopefully you won't get attacked on your mission of mercy.

monro · 09-26-2004, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg
If not for the US, Israel would have kept Sinai as well
they won the lands, they should keep them
Fake Palestinians better known as Arabs can go live in Jordan

Jordan could not stand them , throw them out....

And to clarify things, the west bank is not a Palestinian area, it's a part of Jordan taken by Israel when Jordan attacked them. Jordan does not want it back, to many Palestinians there!

mardigras · 09-26-2004, 05:53 AM

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Originally posted by trouserrat

Tell me this though, how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

A woodchuck would chuck all that he could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.

Sorry, I hate unanswered questions

groark · 09-26-2004, 06:27 AM

Fuck this Zoinism-crap

alexg · 09-26-2004, 06:37 AM

Americans should go back to Britain, the rest of europe, Africa and Asia and give their land back to the Indians...

Canadians should walk out of Canada. Canada belongs to Eskimos and polar bears....

but it isn't even the same, because the jewish people WERE living in Israel/Judea a long time ago, but they were exiled.

keep listening to an anti-Israeli left winged Haaretz reporter. He'll give you all the facts

alexg · 09-26-2004, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by groark
Fuck this Zoinism-crap

it's zionism, and I'm sure you don't know what is the meaning behind it...

alexg · 09-26-2004, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by monro
Jordan could not stand them , throw them out....

And to clarify things, the west bank is not a Palestinian area, it's a part of Jordan taken by Israel when Jordan attacked them. Jordan does not want it back, to many Palestinians there!

of course Jordan doesn't want them back..

nobody wants the palestinians... not even their muslim brothers

alexg · 09-26-2004, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
Good article

Even if 2 years old, I wont do like you guys saying : old news

Old news can still be good one.

what's so GOOD about these news?
that an Israeli died in a suicide bombing? I'd rather have the palestinian not receive his kidney, then the Israeli die.

you can say the news are touching, or heart tearing or whatever, but not good.

Two people I know were wounded in this very bombing.

David! · 09-26-2004, 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by groark
Fuck this Zoinism-crap

Shut up adolf

Thrawn$ · 09-26-2004, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by VirtuMike
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PALESTINE.

I don't know how many times that needs to be repeated. Look on a map. Do you see "Palestine" anywhere on it?

The arabs claiming they are "palestinians" do not belong on Israeli land. Some of them are very poorly behaving guests.

I don't know why some people insist that the land belongs to them. The Jews were there first, the Jews are there currently, and the reason the "palestinians" are there now is because nobody else in the ENTIRE WORLD wants them. Furthermore, the arabs lost a war they started and had to give up the land they had stolen from the Jews in the first place.

If you're against Israel and for arabs, you need your head examined. Have you any idea how screwed up these people are? Why don't you go over there and sit down and talk to them. I know you probably can't afford a plane ticket to go there, but try using the time you spend badmouthing Israel to work instead, and save up the money you have to go meet some "palestinians" and see what they think is going on. Hopefully you won't get attacked on your mission of mercy.

and sharon is peacefull gentleman

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David! By the wrath of Agamemnon Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 6,501	There's a hurricane in South Florida. They are still finding bodies in Haiti. Jamaica and the Cayman Islands are totally devastated. 1.2 Millions people are starving to death in Darfur, Sudan. 10,000 children are dying each day in Africa. Iran and North Korea are almost ready to blow up some nukes. The United States is coming upon one of the most important elections of her history. And you still have time to think about Israel? Dude, you suffer from OCD. You need to get help as soon as possible!!! __________________ .

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QuaWee Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: boogers Posts: 5,791	so pitiful. taking advantage of people like that __________________ i luv mainstream

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David! By the wrath of Agamemnon Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 6,501	If you agree with directfiesta, then you are a peace loving gentleman philosopher. If you disagree with directfiesta, then you are living in your parents' basement. __________________ .

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directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,802	and stealing their land will solve the problem ???? Well maybe on the long run ... and that is what the Palestinians and arabs think also... Anyway, don't read the article, don;t address the content, don't analyse the method... Call it propaganda... The only problem it is a jewish newspaper, not al-maja one.... I presume you are jewish. __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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RobD Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 687	the UK has been stealing land for years, who gives a fuck? the only ones who care are the rightfull owners __________________ ICQ# 98029762 / robd [AT] rollingideas [DOT] com HQ Affordable Exclusive Niche Content Last edited by RobD; 09-25-2004 at 08:40 PM..

09-25-2004, 06:32 PM	#1
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,802	ISRAEL still stealing land .... 'State land' loophole allows appropriation By Aluf Benn Israel is continuing to expropriate territory in the West Bank, under the guise of "state lands" to expand settlements, data from the Civil Administration shows. At least part of these areas received were appropriated with the direct approval of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz. Since the start of 2004, some 2,200 dunams of land in the West Bank have been declared state lands. These include land in Givat Eitam in Ofrat, and land designated for use as the Border Police headquarters in Metsudat Adumim. Last year 1,700 dunams of land in the West Bank were designated state lands, such as the area between the Palestinian village of Bet Ichsa and the settlement of Givat Ze'ev. The authorizations given by Sharon and Mofaz were made after preparatory work was presented to them by the assistant to the Defense Minister for settlement affairs, Ron Shechner. The Sharon government made a commitment to the Bush administration in 2003 that construction in the settlements beyond existing building zones would be placed on hold, and is now in negotiations with the U.S. administration over the territorial limits of the settlements. The Israeli promise to the U.S. includes a commitment not to expropriate territory for construction, but does not relate in any way to designating areas as "state lands." The "state lands" designation has consistently served the governments of Israel in establishing and expanding settlements. In the late 1970s the Supreme Court forbade the expropriation of private Palestinian property for settlements. The then director of the Civil Section at the State Attorney's office, Felia Albak, developed a legal mechanism that relied on Ottoman Land Law, and permitted the designation of extensive tracts of land in the West Bank as state lands, allocating them to the settlements. There are currently 700,000 dunam - 13 percent of the West Bank before June 5, 1967 - under different stages of "review", according to non-government sources collecting data on the Israeli activities in the territories. At the end of the "review" process it is possible to designate these lands "state lands." The majority of these tracts are in southern Mount Hebron, in the area of Gush Etzion, and on both sides of the trans-Samaria highway. Regarding the data of the non-government sources, a Defense Ministry source said that the data is irrelevant because the land in question may be considered "state land" but in practice only a small portion of it is being handled as such. "It is sufficient that someone 20 years ago marked a particular piece of land as possible state land," the source says, in order for that area to be placed in the data bank of the "review process," even if no one actually did carry out a review. The legal department of the Civil Administration is currently busy with the appropriation of lands for the building of the separation fence - an effort that is based on a different legal process - and in dealing with the illegal outposts. The designation of areas as "state lands" is on a low priority, and non-government sources estimate that the Civil Administration officials are only handling several dozen such cases. Many of the illegal outposts in recent years were set up in the West Bank on "survey lands," as part of an effort to alter their status at a later date to state lands and therefore legalize the establishment of the outpost. Data made public by B'tselem two years ago, between 1967 and 1979, shows approximately 700,000 dunam were designated "state lands" in the West Bank, most in the Jordan Valley. In legal steps undertaken by Albak during the years 1980-1984, an additional 800,000 dunam were selected and declared "state lands," serving as the main source of land for the establishment of settlements. Since the designation of state lands has slowed down significantly, but never completely ended. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/481655.html I love the " Road Map " toi peace.... ( includes the US supplying 5,000 "smart bombs," including 500 "bunker busters," to the Israeli Air Force. ) Nice going __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

09-25-2004, 06:44 PM	#3
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	pretty smart . . . not sure why they gave back any land they took in the 6 Day War anyhow

09-25-2004, 06:48 PM	#5
Joe Citizen Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,552	Israel will get what is coming to it.

09-25-2004, 07:03 PM	#10
CheneyRumsfeld Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,341	I think that is fantastic! go get em Jews! Long live Israel! directfiesta is an asshole!

09-26-2004, 03:24 AM	#41
VirtuMike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seat 1A Posts: 2,483	THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PALESTINE. I don't know how many times that needs to be repeated. Look on a map. Do you see "Palestine" anywhere on it? The arabs claiming they are "palestinians" do not belong on Israeli land. Some of them are very poorly behaving guests. I don't know why some people insist that the land belongs to them. The Jews were there first, the Jews are there currently, and the reason the "palestinians" are there now is because nobody else in the ENTIRE WORLD wants them. Furthermore, the arabs lost a war they started and had to give up the land they had stolen from the Jews in the first place. If you're against Israel and for arabs, you need your head examined. Have you any idea how screwed up these people are? Why don't you go over there and sit down and talk to them. I know you probably can't afford a plane ticket to go there, but try using the time you spend badmouthing Israel to work instead, and save up the money you have to go meet some "palestinians" and see what they think is going on. Hopefully you won't get attacked on your mission of mercy. __________________ Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES! XYZZY4L

09-26-2004, 06:27 AM	#44
groark So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 1,966	Fuck this Zoinism-crap

09-26-2004, 06:37 AM	#45
alexg IL4L.com Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Israel - ICQ: 162136565 Posts: 11,287	Americans should go back to Britain, the rest of europe, Africa and Asia and give their land back to the Indians... Canadians should walk out of Canada. Canada belongs to Eskimos and polar bears.... but it isn't even the same, because the jewish people WERE living in Israel/Judea a long time ago, but they were exiled. keep listening to an anti-Israeli left winged Haaretz reporter. He'll give you all the facts __________________ Find fuck buddies in your area!