DIRECTNIC's PHONE NUMBER ?? NEED IT ASAP - GoFuckYourself.com

DarkJedi · 02-05-2005, 02:45 AM

anyone got it ?

media · 02-05-2005, 02:48 AM

Check your credit card statements...

DarkJedi · 02-05-2005, 02:59 AM

motherfuckers, how do they do this ?

i had everything locked down and some fucker stole one of the domains.

what the fuck ?

DarkJedi · 02-05-2005, 03:01 AM

and of cource everyone is out for the weekend.

fuck.

emthree · 02-05-2005, 03:01 AM

Doubt you'll get anyone @ this hour.

BluMedia · 02-05-2005, 03:03 AM

fuck that sucks. Man this domain stealing is getting out of control. Login and find that contact info page, they have their number on there but it is not there 24 hours.

Mark

DarkJedi · 02-05-2005, 03:04 AM

yeah i got the number but both registrars work monaday thru friday.

how the fuck do they do it ? i had it locked.

DarkJedi · 02-05-2005, 03:07 AM

See, i don't get this shit.
My security was set to HIGH.

Dig this:
High Security - *** Recommended: This will place all domains on lock status. Lock status will prevent any transfers from occurring. You may still transfer your domains, but you will need to first unlock the domains individually using the Domain Registry Status Manager link below.

So, how did they steal it ?

BluMedia · 02-05-2005, 03:09 AM

Man that sucks. Domain registers should have 24 hour support. You can try to do a support ticket but I don't know if they answer those on weekends either. It seems like locked domains don't do shit for security.

Mark

Thurbs · 02-05-2005, 03:10 AM

i suggest ppl start looking at places like gandi.net and other domain registrars used normally by spammers and ppl seeking immunity. why? because they are so paranoid, it's like a 10 step procedure to actually transfer your domain ownership, making these hit and runs nearly impossible.

pornstar2pac · 02-05-2005, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by thurbs

i suggest ppl start looking at places like gandi.net and other domain registrars used normally by spammers and ppl seeking immunity. why? because they are so paranoid, it's like a 10 step procedure to actually transfer your domain ownership, making these hit and runs nearly impossible.

you know, that's the smartest thing I have heard since this domain stealing started a few months back

Finn · 02-05-2005, 03:30 AM

DarkJedi,
Was it ws,cn or tv tld?
Those are not locked.

UnclePecker · 02-05-2005, 03:31 AM

Did you have your login/pass to directnic stored on your PC, in a .txt file, etc?

arg · 02-05-2005, 03:34 AM

In the current situation, to get the domain working again, you need to contact the new registrar where the domain has moved. (Unless it moved between directnic accounts, so it's still there). You'll want to contact Directnic about what went wrong and how to get it back to Directnic (if you're still going to use Directnic), but that can probably wait until Monday. I don't think Directnic would be able to do anything in the short-term other than confirm to the new registrar details of the theft...the new registrar can change the DNS settings back to what they were. If they're competent, they'll be able to confirm it was hijacked even without directnic's involvement. Longer term, unless you let the domain expire, or used false contact info in the registration, it's almost certain you'll be able to get it back. But short term I'd just work on getting the DNS changed so your site gets back up.

Thurbs · 02-05-2005, 03:35 AM

lol .. i highly doubt it was the last two. these attacks aren't localized, they're server side vulnerabilities and since most registrars are run by idiots who would rather offer you sweeeet ease-of-use, 1 minute setup, near instant DNS propagation etc .... simple brute force atks let you hop in and do whatever since changes are made to be automated and near instant.

problem is, they're response is like non-existant, and their preventative measures are a crock of shit tbh.

arg · 02-05-2005, 02:05 PM

DJedi, any news? To which registrar did the hijackers move your domain?

BVF · 02-05-2005, 02:08 PM

gotdamn that sucks. when locked domains are getting stolen from DirectNic, that's a fucking problem. A BIG fucking problem.

GeorgeK · 02-05-2005, 02:10 PM

See the other thread by Muff, too:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=427476

Is it Xybererotica in the WHOIS again, like the Easy-Dater.com theft a few weeks ago from Sleazydreams?

Shoplifter · 02-05-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

and of cource everyone is out for the weekend.

fuck.

The lack of weekend support is a serious issue. They hit Sleazy on a long weekend so it is clear the thieves are taking the delays with weekend and holiday support into account.

DomBuyer · 02-05-2005, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

motherfuckers, how do they do this ?

i had everything locked down and some fucker stole one of the domains.

what the fuck ?

Karma apparently at play

Steen2 · 02-05-2005, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer

Karma apparently at play

What did DarkJedi do?

SmokeyTheBear · 02-05-2005, 03:31 PM

If they logged in they would have had to unlock the domain and transfer it , either way an email should have been sent or your registrar is liable for damages. They didnt steal it from you they stole it from directnic.

arg · 02-05-2005, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

If they logged in they would have had to unlock the domain and transfer it , either way an email should have been sent or your registrar is liable for damages. They didnt steal it from you they stole it from directnic.

They are not liable for damages for failure to send an email notice. ICANN provides ways of correcting domain thefts, and registrars typically indemnify themselves against consequential damages with their service agreements. I think a suit would only be successful if the registrar were negligent in allowing the hijack, and then exhibited continued willful negligence and obstruction in resolving the problem, as happened with Kremen's successful suit against Network Solutions regarding sex.com.

freeadultcontent · 02-05-2005, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arg

They are not liable for damages for failure to send an email notice. ICANN provides ways of correcting domain thefts, and registrars typically indemnify themselves against consequential damages with their service agreements. I think a suit would only be successful if the registrar were negligent in allowing the hijack, and then exhibited continued willful negligence and obstruction in resolving the problem, as happened with Kremen's successful suit against Network Solutions regarding sex.com.

I would believe a decent attorney could easily argue that by not having technical support on the weekends, when it has been clear the rampant thefts have been occuring during the weekends due clearly to the fact the thieves know the owner can do nothing, could be considered negligent behavior.

Theo · 02-05-2005, 04:21 PM

dotser wanted to verify my last transfer via phone

arg · 02-05-2005, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeadultcontent

I would believe a decent attorney could easily argue that by not having technical support on the weekends, when it has been clear the rampant thefts have been occuring during the weekends due clearly to the fact the thieves know the owner can do nothing, could be considered negligent behavior.

See http://www.directnic.com/legal/policy.php sections:
10. LIMITATION OF LIABILITY
11. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTIES
12. Indemnity
13. Representations and Warranties

You could always try, but they definitely thought of this beforehand. :-)

freeadultcontent · 02-05-2005, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arg

See http://www.directnic.com/legal/policy.php sections:
10. LIMITATION OF LIABILITY
11. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTIES
12. Indemnity
13. Representations and Warranties

You could always try, but they definitely thought of this beforehand. :-)

Just giving my

I do not use directnic myself. My registrar makes me jump through hoops when I attempt a transfer. Hell they have even phoned me before when I added 20 domains at one time to my account, to make sure I had actually placed the order and that my account was not compromized.

DarkJedi · 02-05-2005, 06:06 PM

The site is still there - they havent changed the DNS yet. Just moved the domain to another registrar.
It was a .net domain.
It was locked.
I never got any email, and the mailbox wasn't mail bombed.
Directnic account shows no lock/unlock requests or any transfers.
Domain has been transfered to enom.com and they are using proxyguard to hide the whois info.

Both registrars are working monday thru friday so there is no way to reach either of them now.

I have no idea how the've done it. I thought DirectNic was a pretty safe place to keep domains at.

justsexxx · 02-05-2005, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

The site is still there - they havent changed the DNS yet. Just moved the domain to another registrar.
It was a .net domain.
It was locked.
I never got any email, and the mailbox wasn't mail bombed.
Directnic account shows no lock/unlock requests or any transfers.
Domain has been transfered to enom.com and they are using proxyguard to hide the whois info.

Both registrars are working monday thru friday so there is no way to reach either of them now.

I have no idea how the've done it. I thought DirectNic was a pretty safe place to keep domains at.

Damn that scares me. How the **** is that possible. Did they maybe hack your email account, request the transfer, and replied that? (and agreed in the mail and deleted it?)

Also sleazy, you have an idea how they did it?

Andre

DarkJedi · 02-05-2005, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Damn that scares me. How the **** is that possible. Did they maybe hack your email account, request the transfer, and replied that? (and agreed in the mail and deleted it?)

Also sleazy, you have an idea how they did it?

Andre

No, my email is still working.
I never received any emails about any transfers.
I also have many other domain in my directnic account so they could have taken them also if they had hacked my account.

Must be some DirectNic backdoor, i don't know.

DarkJedi · 02-05-2005, 06:15 PM

Also, my account is locked and is set to auto-reject any transfers.

David! · 02-05-2005, 06:23 PM

Looks like they always do that late fridays too

justsexxx · 02-05-2005, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Also, my account is locked and is set to auto-reject any transfers.

Very strange. Curious what directnic will tell you. Please keep us updated. And good luck

arg · 02-05-2005, 06:25 PM

Sure sounds strange. There was a previous directnic hijack reported a couple weeks ago. I wonder if the hijackers were waiting for a longer holiday weekend to switch the DNS, hoping you wouldn't notice until then, or maybe wait 60 days and then transfer it to yet another registrar, so getting it back would be more complicated. I'm interested in what you find out, hope you post updates DJ.

DWB · 02-05-2005, 06:26 PM

Fuck. I'm set for high security but if they got yours... anyone is open to theft.

SureFire · 02-05-2005, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

The site is still there - they havent changed the DNS yet. Just moved the domain to another registrar.
It was a .net domain.
It was locked.
I never got any email, and the mailbox wasn't mail bombed.
Directnic account shows no lock/unlock requests or any transfers.
Domain has been transfered to enom.com and they are using proxyguard to hide the whois info.

Both registrars are working monday thru friday so there is no way to reach either of them now.

I have no idea how the've done it. I thought DirectNic was a pretty safe place to keep domains at.

Curious, did you signup that domain directly through DirectNic or did a hosting company register it for you?

andrej_NDC · 02-05-2005, 06:46 PM

Im happy I have never touched directnic, Monday-Friday support is so 1995...

Kimmykim · 02-05-2005, 07:09 PM

I'm guessing that DirectNic will do everything they can to get this taken care of.

crockett · 02-05-2005, 07:20 PM

was sleazy's name also at directnic?

AgentCash · 02-05-2005, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

was sleazy's name also at directnic?

Dotster wasn't it?

crockett · 02-05-2005, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AgentCash

Dotster wasn't it?

yea I think you're right..

Lord Aga · 02-05-2005, 08:00 PM

Believe me.. it happened because you are a wanker and karma is a bitch!

u wanker!

may many more of your domains be taken!!

andrej_NDC · 02-06-2005, 06:26 AM

I had just emailed my registar and they replied pretty fast, 24/7 support. Its domainnamesystems btw...

Peaches · 02-06-2005, 06:40 AM

Just an FYI, one of the owners of Directnic gave DarkJedi his ICQ number last night and told him he'd be up all night to help. Support ISN'T M-F ;)

grimmdaddy · 02-06-2005, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

anyone got it ?

It is 504-679-5170

grimmdaddy · 02-06-2005, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

I had just emailed my registar and they replied pretty fast, 24/7 support. Its domainnamesystems btw...

This is a domain name dispute and has to follow protools set by ICANN. email support is 24/7 through DirecNic's tgrouble tiket system. I think if you ask around you will find the support goes above and beyond.

Unfortunately, when there is a domain name dispute, most times it cannot be resolved post haste, and especially on Mardi Gras weekend

Rui · 02-06-2005, 08:34 AM

DirectNic is suddenly becoming the joke when it comes to registar's...

Peaches · 02-06-2005, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

DirectNic is suddenly becoming the joke when it comes to registar's...

???? I've not seen that at all and I've been with them for a couple of years.

Pipecrew · 02-06-2005, 09:12 AM

hahahaha dark jedi, you stupid newb, I just saw you boasting in another thread that only newbs get domains stolen..

Karma's a bitch.

Pipecrew · 02-06-2005, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

???? I've not seen that at all and I've been with them for a couple of years.

They are very good, but please dont try and pretend you dont work for them.

02-05-2005, 02:45 AM	#1
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	DIRECTNIC's PHONE NUMBER ?? NEED IT ASAP anyone got it ?

02-05-2005, 02:48 AM	#2
media Confirmed Moneymaker Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eugene, OR It's Like Jail, Only with Trees! Posts: 9,852	Check your credit card statements... __________________ I'm here for the violence!

02-05-2005, 03:01 AM	#5
emthree Dialer Kingpin Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York Posts: 10,816	Doubt you'll get anyone @ this hour. __________________ • Sell Patches & Pills •

02-05-2005, 03:03 AM	#6
BluMedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,973	fuck that sucks. Man this domain stealing is getting out of control. Login and find that contact info page, they have their number on there but it is not there 24 hours. Mark __________________ IntenseCash - If you can't convert us then you might want to look for a new job . BrokeStraightBoys.com converting 1:124 stats counted by Nats

02-05-2005, 03:09 AM	#9
BluMedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,973	Man that sucks. Domain registers should have 24 hour support. You can try to do a support ticket but I don't know if they answer those on weekends either. It seems like locked domains don't do shit for security. Mark __________________ IntenseCash - If you can't convert us then you might want to look for a new job . BrokeStraightBoys.com converting 1:124 stats counted by Nats

02-05-2005, 02:59 AM	#3
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	motherfuckers, how do they do this ? i had everything locked down and some fucker stole one of the domains. what the fuck ?

02-05-2005, 03:04 AM	#7
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	yeah i got the number but both registrars work monaday thru friday. how the fuck do they do it ? i had it locked.

02-05-2005, 03:07 AM	#8
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	See, i don't get this shit. My security was set to HIGH. Dig this: High Security - *** Recommended: This will place all domains on lock status. Lock status will prevent any transfers from occurring. You may still transfer your domains, but you will need to first unlock the domains individually using the Domain Registry Status Manager link below. So, how did they steal it ?

02-05-2005, 03:10 AM	#10
Thurbs The Thrilla in Manila Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Thurbs' Lagoon, Christmas Island Posts: 4,785	i suggest ppl start looking at places like gandi.net and other domain registrars used normally by spammers and ppl seeking immunity. why? because they are so paranoid, it's like a 10 step procedure to actually transfer your domain ownership, making these hit and runs nearly impossible.

02-05-2005, 03:30 AM	#12
Finn Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 26	DarkJedi, Was it ws,cn or tv tld? Those are not locked.

02-05-2005, 03:31 AM	#13
UnclePecker So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 266	Did you have your login/pass to directnic stored on your PC, in a .txt file, etc?

02-05-2005, 03:34 AM	#14
arg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,164	In the current situation, to get the domain working again, you need to contact the new registrar where the domain has moved. (Unless it moved between directnic accounts, so it's still there). You'll want to contact Directnic about what went wrong and how to get it back to Directnic (if you're still going to use Directnic), but that can probably wait until Monday. I don't think Directnic would be able to do anything in the short-term other than confirm to the new registrar details of the theft...the new registrar can change the DNS settings back to what they were. If they're competent, they'll be able to confirm it was hijacked even without directnic's involvement. Longer term, unless you let the domain expire, or used false contact info in the registration, it's almost certain you'll be able to get it back. But short term I'd just work on getting the DNS changed so your site gets back up.

02-05-2005, 03:35 AM	#15
Thurbs The Thrilla in Manila Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Thurbs' Lagoon, Christmas Island Posts: 4,785	lol .. i highly doubt it was the last two. these attacks aren't localized, they're server side vulnerabilities and since most registrars are run by idiots who would rather offer you sweeeet ease-of-use, 1 minute setup, near instant DNS propagation etc .... simple brute force atks let you hop in and do whatever since changes are made to be automated and near instant. problem is, they're response is like non-existant, and their preventative measures are a crock of shit tbh.

02-05-2005, 02:05 PM	#16
arg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,164	DJedi, any news? To which registrar did the hijackers move your domain?

02-05-2005, 02:08 PM	#17
BVF Black Vagina Finder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Midwest Posts: 13,975	gotdamn that sucks. when locked domains are getting stolen from DirectNic, that's a fucking problem. A BIG fucking problem. __________________ Black Pussy Click On Mr Cosby..CCbill, 60/40, 136 FHG's....The Cos Loves Black Ghetto Pussy!!

02-05-2005, 02:10 PM	#18
GeorgeK Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 423	See the other thread by Muff, too: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=427476 Is it Xybererotica in the WHOIS again, like the Easy-Dater.com theft a few weeks ago from Sleazydreams? __________________ I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

02-05-2005, 03:31 PM	#22
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	If they logged in they would have had to unlock the domain and transfer it , either way an email should have been sent or your registrar is liable for damages. They didnt steal it from you they stole it from directnic. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

02-05-2005, 04:21 PM	#25
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	dotser wanted to verify my last transfer via phone

02-05-2005, 06:06 PM	#28
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	The site is still there - they havent changed the DNS yet. Just moved the domain to another registrar. It was a .net domain. It was locked. I never got any email, and the mailbox wasn't mail bombed. Directnic account shows no lock/unlock requests or any transfers. Domain has been transfered to enom.com and they are using proxyguard to hide the whois info. Both registrars are working monday thru friday so there is no way to reach either of them now. I have no idea how the've done it. I thought DirectNic was a pretty safe place to keep domains at.

02-05-2005, 06:15 PM	#31
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Also, my account is locked and is set to auto-reject any transfers.

02-05-2005, 06:23 PM	#32
David! By the wrath of Agamemnon Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 6,501	Looks like they always do that late fridays too __________________ .

02-05-2005, 06:25 PM	#34
arg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,164	Sure sounds strange. There was a previous directnic hijack reported a couple weeks ago. I wonder if the hijackers were waiting for a longer holiday weekend to switch the DNS, hoping you wouldn't notice until then, or maybe wait 60 days and then transfer it to yet another registrar, so getting it back would be more complicated. I'm interested in what you find out, hope you post updates DJ.

02-05-2005, 06:26 PM	#35
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Fuck. I'm set for high security but if they got yours... anyone is open to theft.

02-05-2005, 06:46 PM	#37
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	Im happy I have never touched directnic, Monday-Friday support is so 1995...

02-05-2005, 07:09 PM	#38
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	I'm guessing that DirectNic will do everything they can to get this taken care of.

02-05-2005, 07:20 PM	#39
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	was sleazy's name also at directnic? __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

02-05-2005, 08:00 PM	#42
Lord Aga Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 479	Believe me.. it happened because you are a wanker and karma is a bitch! u wanker! may many more of your domains be taken!! Last edited by Lord Aga; 02-05-2005 at 08:01 PM..

02-06-2005, 06:26 AM	#43
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	I had just emailed my registar and they replied pretty fast, 24/7 support. Its domainnamesystems btw...

02-06-2005, 06:40 AM	#44
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	Just an FYI, one of the owners of Directnic gave DarkJedi his ICQ number last night and told him he'd be up all night to help. Support ISN'T M-F ;)

02-06-2005, 08:34 AM	#47
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	DirectNic is suddenly becoming the joke when it comes to registar's...

02-06-2005, 09:12 AM	#49
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	hahahaha dark jedi, you stupid newb, I just saw you boasting in another thread that only newbs get domains stolen.. Karma's a bitch.