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Sly · 02-03-2005, 12:07 AM

Thinking about hiring a college kid in IT for some basic web work and other webmaster related tasks. Have no idea how to go about this really. Fair pay for example, it would be done on a sub-contractor type basis. I figure 20 hours a week, maybe they would work 4 days for 5 hours or 5 days for 4 hours, not real particular about that.

I know some of you have done this before. Any suggestions or things I should look out for? I've hired people before for non-web related work numerous times so I'm not completely out of the loop, but for something a little more technical like this... I could use all the comments and suggestions I can get.

Juicy D. Links · 02-03-2005, 12:10 AM

Do it Sly , We are going to be doing the same thing as "internships"

Sly · 02-03-2005, 12:12 AM

How exactly does that work? Anything special I need to know about? There has to be a way to get these guys fairly cheap.

BradM · 02-03-2005, 12:15 AM

Sly... do yourself a favor. Have them write a basic "test" have someone here do it up for you and give it to them to complete. Have an answer key with you. Grade him.

Trust me. I started doing this a long time ago and its amazing how many people who SEEMED amazing could do LESS than I can.

Juicy D. Links · 02-03-2005, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

How exactly does that work? Anything special I need to know about? There has to be a way to get these guys fairly cheap.

Are there any local universities by you? Call up the job center there and such. And try to go in and meet with a person and tell em you run a internet company blabla and need interns and such. You can get em for cheap also cause then they can use you as a reference when they graduate.

Sly · 02-03-2005, 12:18 AM

Oh I'll definitely be giving a basic HTML test. I don't expect them to be as good as me, that isn't the point. I need some shit work done on a regular, quick basis and I want to be supervising it. I also want to be training this person so things are done exactly the way I want them.

What's a fair pay for something like this? Again, it will be on a sub-contractor basis so that has to be taken into consideration.

hydro · 02-03-2005, 12:19 AM

i remember a porno that started like this

wargames · 02-03-2005, 12:21 AM

Sounds like a good idea.

The Other Steve · 02-03-2005, 12:26 AM

I think there was an article in the last issue of the the XBiz print magazine about the legal issues involved in sub contracting work to people actually who worked in house - that might be worth a read because, from memory, it raised some interesting points.

JulianSosa · 02-03-2005, 12:28 AM

Get an outsourced guy it will be cheaper and less hassle in the long run

VideoJ · 02-03-2005, 12:47 AM

I've done this quite a few times with video editors and the like. Pay should be around McDonald's rates (seriously would you rather be flipping burgers or looking at porn for $6-$8/hour) starting. If they're good you can give them raises. Tell them up front it's week to week trial and you can terminate at any time. The smart ones you can turn into money machines for you until they figure out they can make more on their own

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As far as the work-in-house rules, that's really only applicable to full time long-term contractors who are doing the same job as a salaried employee might be doing. Then you got IRS and SS to worry about.

Another rule is the $600, if you pay them more then $600 in 1 year then you're suppose to report it to social security. Check with your lawyer/CPA for all the local labor laws as well.

bdld · 02-03-2005, 01:52 AM

there's a fine line between a sub contractor and an employee, especially when they're working in a company office using company computers and get paid by the hour

02-03-2005, 12:07 AM	#1
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,329	Hiring local college kids for in-house web work... Thinking about hiring a college kid in IT for some basic web work and other webmaster related tasks. Have no idea how to go about this really. Fair pay for example, it would be done on a sub-contractor type basis. I figure 20 hours a week, maybe they would work 4 days for 5 hours or 5 days for 4 hours, not real particular about that. I know some of you have done this before. Any suggestions or things I should look out for? I've hired people before for non-web related work numerous times so I'm not completely out of the loop, but for something a little more technical like this... I could use all the comments and suggestions I can get. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

02-03-2005, 12:12 AM	#3
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,329	How exactly does that work? Anything special I need to know about? There has to be a way to get these guys fairly cheap. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

02-03-2005, 12:18 AM	#6
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,329	Oh I'll definitely be giving a basic HTML test. I don't expect them to be as good as me, that isn't the point. I need some shit work done on a regular, quick basis and I want to be supervising it. I also want to be training this person so things are done exactly the way I want them. What's a fair pay for something like this? Again, it will be on a sub-contractor basis so that has to be taken into consideration. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

02-03-2005, 12:21 AM	#8
wargames Kliris Join Date: May 2003 Location: ca Posts: 10,423	Sounds like a good idea. __________________ ICQ 212-115-582 Email Steve at Vas Media Group .com

02-03-2005, 12:26 AM	#9
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	I think there was an article in the last issue of the the XBiz print magazine about the legal issues involved in sub contracting work to people actually who worked in house - that might be worth a read because, from memory, it raised some interesting points. __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

02-03-2005, 12:10 AM	#2
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Do it Sly , We are going to be doing the same thing as "internships"

02-03-2005, 12:15 AM	#4
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Sly... do yourself a favor. Have them write a basic "test" have someone here do it up for you and give it to them to complete. Have an answer key with you. Grade him. Trust me. I started doing this a long time ago and its amazing how many people who SEEMED amazing could do LESS than I can.

02-03-2005, 12:19 AM	#7
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	i remember a porno that started like this

02-03-2005, 12:28 AM	#10
JulianSosa Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,042	Get an outsourced guy it will be cheaper and less hassle in the long run

02-03-2005, 12:47 AM	#11
VideoJ Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: S. Florida Posts: 750	I've done this quite a few times with video editors and the like. Pay should be around McDonald's rates (seriously would you rather be flipping burgers or looking at porn for $6-$8/hour) starting. If they're good you can give them raises. Tell them up front it's week to week trial and you can terminate at any time. The smart ones you can turn into money machines for you until they figure out they can make more on their own . As far as the work-in-house rules, that's really only applicable to full time long-term contractors who are doing the same job as a salaried employee might be doing. Then you got IRS and SS to worry about. Another rule is the $600, if you pay them more then $600 in 1 year then you're suppose to report it to social security. Check with your lawyer/CPA for all the local labor laws as well. __________________ Somebody stole my damn signture...

02-03-2005, 01:52 AM	#12
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	there's a fine line between a sub contractor and an employee, especially when they're working in a company office using company computers and get paid by the hour