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Old 02-02-2005, 03:01 PM   #1
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My ex's lawyer thinks I'm an idiot

i love it when a lawyer thinks I'm an idiot.

I love it.


sad part is - by fighting this they will get 10% of what i was willing to give them. Now I'm gona FUCK THEM OVER BIG TIME.

I can't believe lawyers are this fucking stupid.... the law is one thing - but the law doesn't ever get someone anything near or close to what they COULD have gotten in a negotation..... i looked at my legal position with my lawyer, and it's soo strong i actually feel sorry for her, she's gona loose everything and the only winner will be her lawyer. I wish she wouldn't have taken this route.

I left her the house, all contents - tons of cash and a new car. over 2/3 of all assets - it wasn't enough according to her lawyer. So FUCK EM - legally I can force sale of EVERYTHING - and i'm VERY close to doing it. It'll all end up as legal fees to her lawyer - my lawyer is 1/3 the cost of hers and i don't give a fuck about my legal fees. Sadens me that she'll end up with next to nothing though. but hey - if she wants to keep doing this shit I don't mind getting more cash out of the deal........
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Old 02-02-2005, 03:03 PM   #2
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That's sad hun, my parents had a messy one and you're %100 right the lawyers will end up making a bunch of $$.


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she tried to ambush you ??... doesn't she know who you are?
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can't even though i never called her once since i left and she called me dozens of times- her lawyer filed that i can't speak to her or contact her... ploy to get more legal fees i guess.
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she tried to ambush you ??... doesn't she know who you are?

na - they tried to devalue everything to get more out of me.

it'll backfire hugly though.
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Had a few close friends go thru divorces. Just keep it in the back of your mind that it's in ALL the lawyer's interests to keep racking up the fees..
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Had a few close friends go thru divorces. Just keep it in the back of your mind that it's in ALL the lawyer's interests to keep racking up the fees..

her lawyer is going on a 3 week carribean vacation in a couple of weeks - at the height of the legal season. that alone says a lot - not 1 week - 3 weeks.
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Wow... What an Idiot. I saw what Scott left her with and know some of the details...

Actually blows me away to see such hatred in someone cause they where left that they need to go to that extent.

I can defenitly see her family pushing her to do so.

Best of luck to you buddy and can;t wait to celebrate this one with you ;-)
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can't even though i never called her once since i left and she called me dozens of times- her lawyer filed that i can't speak to her or contact her... ploy to get more legal fees i guess.



Here's a good question Sleazy:



How do you treat her?


What happened to break you two up?


I mean, it must've been pretty fucking bad if the person won't speak to you. I can't fathom what you must've done to piss off someone who at one time you were happy with, kissing, hugging, screwing, enjoying time with each other... how does it degenerate to a point where the lawyers do the talking?
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Here's a good question Sleazy:



How do you treat her?


What happened to break you two up?


I mean, it must've been pretty fucking bad if the person won't speak to you. I can't fathom what you must've done to piss off someone who at one time you were happy with, kissing, hugging, screwing, enjoying time with each other... how does it degenerate to a point where the lawyers do the talking?
ask some people on here like sweetums or jman.

obviously i treated her horrible - i'm a complete asshole
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na - they tried to devalue everything to get more out of me.

it'll backfire hugly though.
Ha. Sell for true value then they'll be shittin' bricks. Call the bluff.
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What happened to break you two up?


I mean, it must've been pretty fucking bad if the person won't speak to you. I can't fathom what you must've done to piss off someone who at one time you were happy with, kissing, hugging, screwing, enjoying time with each other... how does it degenerate to a point where the lawyers do the talking?
Divorce is a strange thing. My parents haven't had a civil conversation since I was 5, that was 16 years ago.
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can't even though i never called her once since i left and she called me dozens of times- her lawyer filed that i can't speak to her or contact her... ploy to get more legal fees i guess.
If what you say is entirely true, and if there was ANY justice in the world, when all is said and done, she'd sue her LAWYER for all the money she's gonna lose, because you aren't allowed to tell her the real situation.

This is why we do NOT have a justice system. It's a LEGAL system. Plain and simple. (I understand this isn't a criminal case, but the statement still rings true).
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Ha. Sell for true value then they'll be shittin' bricks. Call the bluff.

did worse - with the house demanded that we buy it till they put a proper value on it. they literally screamed at us when we sugested that. they didn't like having their bluff called.
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That's classic coming from a lawyer!! :-)

If that's the best verbal he can spew - your ex deserves better!

(Or even better, if possible, fuck all lawyers and try and deal between yourselves)
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After everything you were willing to give her and she's still not happy? I remember what her background is and she should have gratiously accepted your offer. She probably won't see this much in her lifetime again. I hope for the best Sleazy.

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Agreed.

When my parents divorced years ago, they decided amicably between them who got what.

The laws being what they were though, they still had to pay two separate lawyers...or something to that effect.

My mom sat and fought with HER lawyer that she was fine with what she was getting, even though he insisted that he could get her more.

Her lawyer was just pissed off because he saw a divorce case come through his office, and all he got paid for was drawing up the papers.

Fucking lawyers. Just above psychologists on the food chain.
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I'd fight for the basset hound. Make it hell for the lawyers. And send your ex a letter explaining that she will lose and your looking out for her, to take your offer and ignore her lawyers. They are going to screw it up for her (if you still care).



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without kids she's legally entitled to half. after recentl events by the time i'm done i'll make sure that after legal fees and auctions for penuts she gets fuck all of what she would have.
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without kids she's legally entitled to half. after recentl events by the time i'm done i'll make sure that after legal fees and auctions for penuts she gets fuck all of what she would have.
Legally, California makes men bend over, and doesn't buy you dinner first. Just be glad she isn't making up some fucking bullshit about "domestic violence" or something. She doesn't even need proof -- your ass will go to jail, and you'll lose everything.

It's great!
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After everything you were willing to give her and she's still not happy? I remember what her background is and she should have gratiously accepted your offer. She probably won't see this much in her lifetime again. I hope for the best Sleazy.

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i honestly wanted her to walk away from this with something , but it looks like she'll get fuck all in the end thanks to her lawyer.

i can't believe just how stupid her lawyer is. Well i guess her lawyer isnt' stupid - her lawyer will make a LOT of money from this , at my ex's expense.

i think after it's said and done my ex should probally take the sheet i gave her showing what i was offering and SUE the lawyer for the difference the lawyer cost her, as it'll be HUGE. and make it VERY public ruining the lawyer's career here.
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It's great!
she phoned me saying she was going to commit suicde every day for weeks
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How long were you married?
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sorry to hear about this Sleazy, you sound confident that it will work out in your favor, so I wont say good luck, but rather a pre emptive CONGRATS!
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That's right. That's what divorce lawyers do. They see some bitch come through the door seeking vengence and they play her "let's fuck him!" emotions so they can make assloads of cash. They are the lowest form of attorney, and that's a huge fucking statement. Even other attorneys think divorce lawyers are lowlife pieces of shit.
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:25 PM   #43
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Here's a good question Sleazy:



How do you treat her?


What happened to break you two up?


I mean, it must've been pretty fucking bad if the person won't speak to you. I can't fathom what you must've done to piss off someone who at one time you were happy with, kissing, hugging, screwing, enjoying time with each other... how does it degenerate to a point where the lawyers do the talking?
It's really a fascinating mystery. One day, everything is amazing, and then a few weeks later, she becomes Queen Supreme Bitch. I'll never understand it.
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:28 PM   #44
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Did u go see all the top divorce lawyers so she couldnt use them in there being conflict on interest?!
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:29 PM   #45
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so who got the Crystal Likness of her you had made up in Vegas ?
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:30 PM   #46
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dude invest in a kendo stick... there you go problem solved.
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:31 PM   #47
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OK, I don't get it - why are you deciding to give her less because she's following an attorney's advice? She's not a lawyer. She did what any smart person would do and went and got one. Why punish her for picking the wrong one?

In the states, you can't get a restraining order without proof that the person you're getting the order against will cause harm. That's bizarre that her lawyer can make sure you can't talk to her w/o any proof of wrongdoing on your side

It always amazes me how people who can love each other turn so hateful when it's over. I've done it too, but it still amazes me.
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:34 PM   #48
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that's the bad thing about divorce...the women thinks she deserves sooo much, but often she didn't provided anything...
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:35 PM   #49
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Always, always if you have money and sense your marriage is heading south, and your wife is the type to go after your money, have a plan already prepared to temporarily sink your business so it looks like its going to hell and you're going belly up. This is one of the best ways to avoid getting your wealth zapped.

Trump did this when Ivana could have cleaned him out and she settled for a meager $10 Mil thinking he was going under completely and she could end up with squat if she didn't settle fast.

Seriously, if you have money, always have backup financial plans for the worst in your relationships. And keep everything you do ultra complex stucturally so the attorneys will have an insurmountable time figuring out everything you actually have, own and control.

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Old 02-02-2005, 04:41 PM   #50
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It's really a fascinating mystery. One day, everything is amazing, and then a few weeks later, she becomes Queen Supreme Bitch. I'll never understand it.
You're not with your chick anymore?
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