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txl 02-02-2005 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
can't believe lawyers are this fucking stupid.... the law is one thing - but the law doesn't ever get someone anything near or close to what they COULD have gotten in a negotation.....

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BradShaw 02-02-2005 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
pre-nub only works when you have the assets before you get married. I made everything while married.

True. 2/3 is very generous.

SleazyDream 02-02-2005 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches
OK, I don't get it - why are you deciding to give her less because she's following an attorney's advice? She's not a lawyer. She did what any smart person would do and went and got one. Why punish her for picking the wrong one?

In the states, you can't get a restraining order without proof that the person you're getting the order against will cause harm. That's bizarre that her lawyer can make sure you can't talk to her w/o any proof of wrongdoing on your side :(

It always amazes me how people who can love each other turn so hateful when it's over. I've done it too, but it still amazes me.

i told you - i'm evil

flashfreak 02-02-2005 04:59 PM

Peaches - It is human nature to think wisely and act foolishly... stupidity pays

Peaches 02-02-2005 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by flashfreak
Peaches - It is human nature to think wisely and act foolishly... stupidity pays

Very true! :winkwink:

escorpio 02-02-2005 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches
In the states, you can't get a restraining order without proof that the person you're getting the order against will cause harm.

You can get a restraining order by simply asking for one. You don't have to prove anything.

Peaches 02-02-2005 05:24 PM

In the states you might be able to get a TRO without proof but to get a permanent one you go before a judge. And you can bet that judge will be pretty ticked off if/when they find out you lied to get the TRO if the defendant hasn't done anything.

escorpio 02-02-2005 05:29 PM

All you have to say is you're being "harassed" or "feel threatened" and the order will be granted. Judges rarely deny restraining orders because of how it would look if the person the order was sought against caused harm to the petitioner.

Trixxxia 02-02-2005 06:06 PM

The lawyer simply has to convince her that her 'depression' is caused by talking to him - so he puts it on paper that 'he' (Sleazy) has to have no contact with her. The lawyer also wants to guarantee that they don't get back together.

In Quebec, now, they suggest you go to a mediator before going to a lawyer - you see one person, try to work out a deal between the three of you - if it doesn't work and you seriously want to fight it out in court, then you go ahead and do that.

Sleazy, although I did what you're doing, in the sense that I gave him more than what was entitled to him - I suggest you give what she deserves. If she's entitled to 50% by law - you give her 50% not 75% - also, don't forget you're entitled to her RRSPs too & make sure she signs off to your Canadian & Provincial Pension Plans (or she will benefit from those when you pass as your 'widow' even if you've remarried) .

Gottis 02-02-2005 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles
I tell my girlfriend daily that if we ever got together seriously, and she left me and tried to take my money, I would kill all her pets and burn her house down

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh You two make such a great couple.

Rinaldo 02-02-2005 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles
I tell my girlfriend daily that if we ever got together seriously, and she left me and tried to take my money, I would kill all her pets and burn her house down



:liebe028:

now that was fucking funny lol

Smurfette 02-02-2005 06:42 PM

Got to hate it when divorce gets messy, when I went though mine the ex said I could have all the furniture - but if I moved in with the best man at our wedding I had to sell it. I sold it to him for $1. Had to fight dirty if he was going to act like an ass!

Smurfette

BVF 02-02-2005 06:44 PM

My ex's lawyer took shit PERSONALLY with me. I called him a "Mental Midget" and all hell broke loose. He couldn't stand to see a black man showing his little jewish ass up in court. He even tried to say in court that I made a racial slur against him on my site...

Good luck to you. A woman isn't happy with what you give her. What a woman wants is for the MAN to be miserable as punishment for leaving the woman.

baddog 02-02-2005 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod
If you're in California, and you have a penis, you might as well just give her 100%, and hope they don't take vital organs, too. Sucks, but I went through it.


I live in CA, and I represented myself against her attorney. She got what she walked out the door with, and not much else. Only what I let her have.

baddog 02-02-2005 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Smurfette
but if I moved in with the best man at our wedding I had to sell it.


no class

JFK 02-02-2005 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
I live in CA, and I represented myself against her attorney. She got what she walked out the door with, and not much else. Only what I let her have.

Baddog Mason on the case :thumbsup

Wiggles 02-02-2005 07:48 PM

lawyers representing women are irratating,e specially when they themselves are women.

wargames 02-02-2005 08:29 PM

I'm glad that you're glad to be an idiot. :1orglaugh

Spunky 02-02-2005 08:33 PM

The main reason I will never get married....Half!

axelcat 02-02-2005 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
can't even though i never called her once since i left and she called me dozens of times- her lawyer filed that i can't speak to her or contact her... ploy to get more legal fees i guess.

understandable, well good luck man

neewwman 02-02-2005 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
pre-nub only works when you have the assets before you get married. I made everything while married.

That's incorrect, at least in California. (I'm a lawyer, but now I make more as a webmaster.) A prenuptial agreement can waive community property that is earned during marriage.

Honeyslut 02-02-2005 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches
OK,
In the states, you can't get a restraining order without proof that the person you're getting the order against will cause harm. That's bizarre that her lawyer can make sure you can't talk to her w/o any proof of wrongdoing on your side :(

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You can get a civil restraining order in California for anything if you know how to lie and play the system..

KCat 02-02-2005 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches
In the states, you can't get a restraining order without proof that the person you're getting the order against will cause harm. That's bizarre that her lawyer can make sure you can't talk to her w/o any proof of wrongdoing on your side :(

In Alberta, you don't even need to file a police report or ever press charges. You can just go down to the court house, tell the judge that someone was mean to you & you're afraid - bam! Temporary restraining order for 7 days is served on the other party. He/she has to appear in court to have it lifted.

I can see how someone truly in danger doesn't have time to file the neccessary paperwork & needs it immediately, but the system is very commonly abused in divorce & custody battles.

Platinumpimp 02-02-2005 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF
Good luck to you. A woman isn't happy with what you give her. What a woman wants is for the MAN to be miserable as punishment for leaving the woman.

Damn right !

KCat 02-02-2005 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF
Good luck to you. A woman isn't happy with what you give her. What a woman wants is for the MAN to be miserable as punishment for leaving the woman.


This is true far too often. It's frightening how many women try to keep their kids away from their dads just to punish the ex for cheating or hell, even moving on & finding happiness! The system is starting to change & reward the parent who makes an effort to maintain the parental relationship on both sides, but it's the line of thinking that needs to change first.

(no kids for me, btw, just two sisters - one's a lawyer & the other's a social worker :winkwink:)

vivency-AdamQ 02-02-2005 10:08 PM

actually, in most situations you can get a lot more money through suit than negociations :D

DrewKole 02-02-2005 10:10 PM

And you don't think that she deserves it, for having sex with you for X amount of years?

I think the general public here would disagree.

Hell, if she ever allowed you to be on top, she deserves backpaid hazard pay.

ricks 02-02-2005 10:12 PM

it's cheaper to have the bitch killed :2 cents:

Huggles 02-02-2005 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
ask some people on here like sweetums or jman.

obviously i treated her horrible - i'm a complete asshole


Hey, hey, hey, I've met you, you're a fairly nice person, I never said anything bad!


Sometimes with women, they can just get set off over the littlest fucking things that don't even come to mind

elric 02-02-2005 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
i love it when a lawyer thinks I'm an idiot.

I love it.


sad part is - by fighting this they will get 10% of what i was willing to give them. Now I'm gona FUCK THEM OVER BIG TIME.

I can't believe lawyers are this fucking stupid.... the law is one thing - but the law doesn't ever get someone anything near or close to what they COULD have gotten in a negotation..... i looked at my legal position with my lawyer, and it's soo strong i actually feel sorry for her, she's gona loose everything and the only winner will be her lawyer. I wish she wouldn't have taken this route.

I left her the house, all contents - tons of cash and a new car. over 2/3 of all assets - it wasn't enough according to her lawyer. So FUCK EM - legally I can force sale of EVERYTHING - and i'm VERY close to doing it. It'll all end up as legal fees to her lawyer - my lawyer is 1/3 the cost of hers and i don't give a fuck about my legal fees. Sadens me that she'll end up with next to nothing though. but hey - if she wants to keep doing this shit I don't mind getting more cash out of the deal........

Be careful, dude.

I'm not a lawyer, but "possession is 9 tenths of the law". Moving out of the house and leaving your stuff there may give her "possession", making her claim stronger, especially if the divorce proceedings are long and drawn out. Also it sounds like you put in writing (?!?) your willingness to give her 2/3 of assets... that could come back to bite you later. If you are in front of a judge or arbitrator a year from now going through assets, how are you going to say that something she has been using for a year is actually yours? What will you say when she pulls out the itemized list of assets you gave her and starts negotiating up from there?

It may be worth getting a 2nd legal opinion. Just my :2 cents:

ItBurnsWhenIpee 02-02-2005 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DrewKole
And you don't think that she deserves it, for having sex with you for X amount of years?

I think the general public here would disagree.

Hell, if she ever allowed you to be on top, she deserves backpaid hazard pay.

I really hope you're joking. Are wives whores or partners in life? Aren't the men having sex with them as well?

DrewKole 02-02-2005 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ItBurnsWhenIpee
I really hope you're joking. Are wives whores or partners in life? Aren't the men having sex with them as well?

Have you seen sleazy?


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