Very Important Fastsize Affiliate News - GoFuckYourself.com

BradM · 01-31-2005, 11:59 AM

Good day everyone! I wanted to let you all know that Fastsize has updated its terms of service as of today: January 31, 2005. These changes may apply to you so please read carefully.

If you have any questions about the new TOS please get in touch with me via ICQ: 280389272 or email: brad at fastsize.com

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1) Affiliates of FastSize.com may not create promotional materials which couple FastSize(TM) against other enlargement companies in a matter which compares products or results. We reserve the right to terminate your account if you are creating a list of enlargement products and placing FastSize(TM) within this grouping or category. Typically, webmasters have created these lists and hierarchies of promotion based on their individual payout, not the performance of the product.

2) Any text or "factual" information written to describe the FastSize-Extender or any function of our device that is not featured on our website (www.fastsize.com) must be approved by our staff before being published. This includes information about the average growth sizes of our customers, the functionality of the product, the method used for enlargement, the product guarantee, or our product compared to competitors.

3) Affiliates of FastSize(TM) utilizing SEO tactics, Google Adwords, Overture, or any other search engine placement system, are restricted from cross-promotional actions. These actions include: (1) placing FastSize(TM) in advertisements which then attempt to sell other products, (2) targeting FastSize(TM) keywords to promote related penis enhancement products, and (3) using FastSize(TM) in your tactics to steer traffic to other competitors.

4) If you are using the term "Fastsize" or any derivatives of the Fastsize(TM) brand in order to promote another brand of product in any manner, your account is subject to termination and you are subject to further legal action. Fastsize(TM) is a trademarked brand and can not be used in any way shape or form to promote competing companies.

All violations of our Terms of Service can result in suspension of affiliate accounts and further legal action if the required changes are not made. If you are contacted regarding making changes to your website to comply with our TOS, you have seven (7) days to comply before automatic account shutoff commences. We can not be held responsible for "lost emails" or other forms of lost communication, that hinders your ability to comply with our requested actions.

MikeHawk · 01-31-2005, 12:47 PM

Thanks for the info.....

The BIG BUMP for BradM!

Rui · 01-31-2005, 01:59 PM

Rule 1) seems a bit off....I mean seriously..

BradM · 01-31-2005, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

Rule 1) seems a bit off....I mean seriously..

Then don't promote.

EDIT: The rules are in place to protect our brand. We're not here for the quick $.

Rui · 01-31-2005, 02:14 PM

I don't see how promoting/comparing with other offers is hurting your brand...whatever

clickclickclick · 01-31-2005, 02:15 PM

doesnt rule #4 co-inside with ur other sig sponsors and this thread ?

Theo · 01-31-2005, 02:17 PM

bottom line dont fuck with BradM cause he'll raid your ass

BradM · 01-31-2005, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickclickclick

doesnt rule #4 co-inside with ur other sig sponsors and this thread ?

It's okay if reading is not your strong suit.
"...form to promote competing companies."

And it hurts our brand with FAKE review sites that claim "Fastsize has subpar customer support" to deter a sale to a competing company. When they use "Fastsize review" as their adwords title.

It's a BAD thing no matter which angle you look at it.

edgeprod · 01-31-2005, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

Rule 1) seems a bit off....I mean seriously..

No biggie. It just means they drop off the site, and everyone else stays! If you can't stand the heat, order a fucking pizza!

Trax · 01-31-2005, 02:22 PM

rule #1 is strange...

mensniche · 01-31-2005, 02:23 PM

They run a good system at fastsize, and brad is a good lad... were better, but then again we are the best

Darren · 01-31-2005, 02:24 PM

Ok Brad, I agree the rules will protect your brand and its a good move. Just to point out that MensNiche and SizeGenetics is not here for the quick $ either.

Quickdraw · 01-31-2005, 02:25 PM

Quote:

It's okay if reading is not your strong suit.

Wow, is that how all affiliate managers treat their affiliates? Do you not realize that alot of folks know English as a second language? I am not saying this person does, but damn..

Rule #1 seems abit self defeating

polish_aristocrat · 01-31-2005, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

I don't see how promoting/comparing with other offers is hurting your brand...whatever

f.e mensniche is paying more to the webmaster so the webmaster tells the surfer their product is better, at least this is what i can imagine he had in mind

BradM · 01-31-2005, 02:29 PM

Quickdraw: I am just poking fun- no need to get all balled up about it.

If he was offended I apologize, it's never my intention to anger people here.

It is not a self defeating rule- it's protecting a brand that has been around for 2 years and people are taking advantage of it. If you don't like it, please do not promote our program.

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

f.e mensniche is paying more to the webmaster so the webmaster tells the surfer their product is better, at least this is what i can imagine he had in mind

Exactly.

Jimmie · 01-31-2005, 02:29 PM

So I need to remove FastSize because it is ranked #2 on my page, because the other sponsor products converts better for me?

BradM · 01-31-2005, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmie

So I need to remove FastSize because it is ranked #2 on my page, because the other sponsor products converts better for me?

Correct.

Jimmie · 01-31-2005, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

Correct.

didnt want to do business with you in the first place... thanks.

tranza · 01-31-2005, 02:32 PM

Those rules are kind of dumb. It seems that the stuff you guys are selling is not that hot.. (that's what I would think if I read that TOS)

mensniche · 01-31-2005, 02:32 PM

sorry brad....

i love you but that stupid business sence...

TheGoldenChild · 01-31-2005, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickdraw

Wow, is that how all affiliate managers treat their affiliates? Do you not realize that alot of folks know English as a second language? I am not saying this person does, but damn..

Rule #1 seems abit self defeating

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mensniche · 01-31-2005, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Those rules are kind of dumb. It seems that the stuff you guys are selling is not that hot.. (that's what I would think if I read that TOS)

www.mensniche.com/topten.php

Chris · 01-31-2005, 02:34 PM

Oh god bradlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

So darren... Shall we chat ?

Theo · 01-31-2005, 02:35 PM

i see this thread turning to a blood bath now lol

BradM · 01-31-2005, 02:36 PM

Nice threadjacks guys. You're true class acts.

Jimmie · 01-31-2005, 02:36 PM

this is an absolute ignorant move by The FastSize company... Shall I get in trouble for posting a message about why your product isnt reviewed on my site?

BradM · 01-31-2005, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmie

this is an absolute ignorant move by The FastSize company... Shall I get in trouble for posting a message about why your product isnt reviewed on my site?

You don't need to post here any more. You've already explained you don't wish to be an affiliate. You're welcome to leave.

Jimmie · 01-31-2005, 02:39 PM

last time I checked, I was more than welcome to post in any thread on this site.. thanks tho.

baddog · 01-31-2005, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

Rule 1) seems a bit off....I mean seriously..

agreed 78

Rui · 01-31-2005, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

i see this thread turning to a blood bath now lol

What did you expected...those new "rules" had drama written all over them..

Ohh well...

TheGoldenChild · 01-31-2005, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmie

last time I checked, I was more than welcome to post in any thread on this site.. thanks tho.

Jimmie
email [email protected]

baddog · 01-31-2005, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

I don't see how promoting/comparing with other offers is hurting your brand...whatever

you may have answered your own question

Holly · 01-31-2005, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

i see this thread turning to a blood bath now lol

..

baddog · 01-31-2005, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

It's okay if reading is not your strong suit.
"...form to promote competing companies."

And it hurts our brand with FAKE review sites that claim "Fastsize has subpar customer support" to deter a sale to a competing company. When they use "Fastsize review" as their adwords title.

It's a BAD thing no matter which angle you look at it.

umm, so as long as I am not an affiliate it is okay?

BradM · 01-31-2005, 02:43 PM

Funny. 90% of the people in this thread have not sent a single sale to us, and yet we are getting shit on. GFY drama anyone? Please go troll something else, thanks.

Jimmie · 01-31-2005, 02:43 PM

and to think, a few months back, he had a SizeGenetics BLOG that did nothing but completely BASH SizeGenetics... I see that it now redirects to the SizeGenetics site, with an affiliate code.

Jimmie · 01-31-2005, 02:45 PM

noone is allowed to share their opinion on your new TOS?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

Funny. 90% of the people in this thread have not sent a single sale to us, and yet we are getting shit on. GFY drama anyone? Please go troll something else, thanks.

BradM · 01-31-2005, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmie

noone is allowed to share their opinion on your new TOS?

Sure but it won't change it.

Rui · 01-31-2005, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

Funny. 90% of the people in this thread have not sent a single sale to us, and yet we are getting shit on. GFY drama anyone? Please go troll something else, thanks.

chillout man...seriously people are entitled to have and express their opinion about it, btw I don't recall most of the people posting in this thread bashing your company in the past...

baddog · 01-31-2005, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

Nice threadjacks guys. You're true class acts.

While I might normally agree, it seems that you are tossing off many affiliates, so they might as well present them with alternatives.

I think every top listing I have ever looked at for penis products has a comparison . . . but I could be wrong.

Jimmie · 01-31-2005, 02:49 PM

I was happy with your company and working on a site just for your product.. not anymore....

More Booze · 01-31-2005, 02:49 PM

I am breaking rule #1.

Find my account and shut it down please.

baddog · 01-31-2005, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmie

this is an absolute ignorant move by The FastSize company... Shall I get in trouble for posting a message about why your product isnt reviewed on my site?

probably

BradM · 01-31-2005, 02:50 PM

Let me put this in other terms.

Ex. You go to the store and see a large sign that says "Coke". You walk inside and see coke way back in the corner, surrounded by pepsi and other brand name sodas. The Coke fridge has a sign on it saying "May contain bacteria due to ignorant bottling staff."

Do you think you're going to buy the coke? No, but it's what brought you into the store. You're going to buy a pepsi.

Hence our logic. If you don't understand these basic principles then god help you.

mensniche · 01-31-2005, 02:50 PM

why post this shit in GFY if you dont want people to rip you to bits?

Strife · 01-31-2005, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

While I might normally agree, it seems that you are tossing off many affiliates, so they might as well present them with alternatives.

I think every top listing I have ever looked at for penis products has a comparison . . . but I could be wrong.

Looks like they'll lose a lot of affiliates because of their new TOS.

Trax · 01-31-2005, 02:52 PM

this thread is going wrong lol

BradM · 01-31-2005, 02:52 PM

This will be my last response to this thread. If you have objections or questions about these new terms please contact me directly and we can sort things out.

Thank you.

mensniche · 01-31-2005, 02:52 PM

how ironic... its called a TOS!!! LOL... am i the only one that found that funny?

Jimmie · 01-31-2005, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

Let me put this in other terms.

Ex. You go to the store and see a large sign that says "Coke". You walk inside and see coke way back in the corner, surrounded by pepsi and other brand name sodas. The Coke fridge has a sign on it saying "May contain bacteria due to ignorant bottling staff."

Do you think you're going to buy the coke? No, but it's what brought you into the store. You're going to buy a pepsi.

Hence our logic. If you don't understand these basic principles then god help you.

so you dont want people to do to you, what YOU did to SizeGenetics.... many people may not know about the blog you created tearing SizeGenetics apart... and now u redirect the site to your affiliate link for them...

01-31-2005, 02:15 PM	#6
clickclickclick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,227	doesnt rule #4 co-inside with ur other sig sponsors and this thread ? __________________ if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;) p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

01-31-2005, 02:23 PM	#11
mensniche Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 455	They run a good system at fastsize, and brad is a good lad... were better, but then again we are the best __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

01-31-2005, 02:24 PM	#12
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	Ok Brad, I agree the rules will protect your brand and its a good move. Just to point out that MensNiche and SizeGenetics is not here for the quick $ either. __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup ICQ: 46335817

01-31-2005, 02:29 PM	#16
Jimmie Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft Worth TX! Posts: 872	So I need to remove FastSize because it is ranked #2 on my page, because the other sponsor products converts better for me? __________________ Livin' Fat Cause I Aint On Speed....

01-31-2005, 02:32 PM	#19
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Those rules are kind of dumb. It seems that the stuff you guys are selling is not that hot.. (that's what I would think if I read that TOS) __________________ I'm just a newbie.

01-31-2005, 11:59 AM	#1
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Very Important Fastsize Affiliate News Good day everyone! I wanted to let you all know that Fastsize has updated its terms of service as of today: January 31, 2005. These changes may apply to you so please read carefully. If you have any questions about the new TOS please get in touch with me via ICQ: 280389272 or email: brad at fastsize.com --------------------------- 1) Affiliates of FastSize.com may not create promotional materials which couple FastSize(TM) against other enlargement companies in a matter which compares products or results. We reserve the right to terminate your account if you are creating a list of enlargement products and placing FastSize(TM) within this grouping or category. Typically, webmasters have created these lists and hierarchies of promotion based on their individual payout, not the performance of the product. 2) Any text or "factual" information written to describe the FastSize-Extender or any function of our device that is not featured on our website (www.fastsize.com) must be approved by our staff before being published. This includes information about the average growth sizes of our customers, the functionality of the product, the method used for enlargement, the product guarantee, or our product compared to competitors. 3) Affiliates of FastSize(TM) utilizing SEO tactics, Google Adwords, Overture, or any other search engine placement system, are restricted from cross-promotional actions. These actions include: (1) placing FastSize(TM) in advertisements which then attempt to sell other products, (2) targeting FastSize(TM) keywords to promote related penis enhancement products, and (3) using FastSize(TM) in your tactics to steer traffic to other competitors. 4) If you are using the term "Fastsize" or any derivatives of the Fastsize(TM) brand in order to promote another brand of product in any manner, your account is subject to termination and you are subject to further legal action. Fastsize(TM) is a trademarked brand and can not be used in any way shape or form to promote competing companies. All violations of our Terms of Service can result in suspension of affiliate accounts and further legal action if the required changes are not made. If you are contacted regarding making changes to your website to comply with our TOS, you have seven (7) days to comply before automatic account shutoff commences. We can not be held responsible for "lost emails" or other forms of lost communication, that hinders your ability to comply with our requested actions.

01-31-2005, 12:47 PM	#2
MikeHawk Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In bed with Harley Girl....Not sleepin Posts: 6,683	Thanks for the info..... The BIG BUMP for BradM! __________________ THE AMBUSH INTERVIEW

01-31-2005, 01:59 PM	#3
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	Rule 1) seems a bit off....I mean seriously..

01-31-2005, 02:14 PM	#5
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	I don't see how promoting/comparing with other offers is hurting your brand...whatever

01-31-2005, 02:17 PM	#7
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	bottom line dont fuck with BradM cause he'll raid your ass

01-31-2005, 02:22 PM	#10
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	rule #1 is strange...

01-31-2005, 02:34 PM	#23
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	Oh god bradlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy So darren... Shall we chat ? __________________ [email protected]

01-31-2005, 02:35 PM	#24
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	i see this thread turning to a blood bath now lol

01-31-2005, 02:36 PM	#25
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Nice threadjacks guys. You're true class acts.

01-31-2005, 02:39 PM	#28
Jimmie Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft Worth TX! Posts: 872	last time I checked, I was more than welcome to post in any thread on this site.. thanks tho. __________________ Livin' Fat Cause I Aint On Speed....

01-31-2005, 02:43 PM	#35
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Funny. 90% of the people in this thread have not sent a single sale to us, and yet we are getting shit on. GFY drama anyone? Please go troll something else, thanks.

01-31-2005, 02:49 PM	#41
Jimmie Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft Worth TX! Posts: 872	I was happy with your company and working on a site just for your product.. not anymore.... __________________ Livin' Fat Cause I Aint On Speed....

01-31-2005, 02:49 PM	#42
More Booze Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,116	I am breaking rule #1. Find my account and shut it down please.

01-31-2005, 02:50 PM	#44
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Let me put this in other terms. Ex. You go to the store and see a large sign that says "Coke". You walk inside and see coke way back in the corner, surrounded by pepsi and other brand name sodas. The Coke fridge has a sign on it saying "May contain bacteria due to ignorant bottling staff." Do you think you're going to buy the coke? No, but it's what brought you into the store. You're going to buy a pepsi. Hence our logic. If you don't understand these basic principles then god help you.

01-31-2005, 02:52 PM	#47
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	this thread is going wrong lol