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  • montel
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 2606

    #1

    thumbnail copyright precedent

    I have heard that there was a copyright case in a US which found that it is not a breach of copyright to show thumbnails of images without holding the license. could someone please point me towards some more info?
    thnx
    Barefootsies
  • Theo
    HAL 9000
    • May 2001
    • 34515

    #2
    it's true unless you are going to use Charly's content where special rules apply.

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    • NightCaster
      Registered User
      • Aug 2002
      • 90

      #3
      Does anyone have a website where the case is described?

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      • gothweb
        Confirmed User
        • Jun 2002
        • 8849

        #4
        Just because it isn't illegal doesn't mean you should do it.

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        • kosmic
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2002
          • 871

          #5
          Thumbnail Theft, WTF! Thats just not right.
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          • RATBOY
            Confirmed User
            • May 2002
            • 1592

            #6
            Originally posted by NightCaster
            Does anyone have a website where the case is described?
            Yes I would love to see details on this as well. Lawpal are you out there?

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            • quiet
              we'll miss you our friend. RIP
              • Sep 2001
              • 25115

              #7
              Originally posted by gothweb
              Just because it isn't illegal doesn't mean you should do it.
              jesus christ, in a pragmatic sense, who the fuck cares?

              does someone have a link to an article?
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              • gothweb
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2002
                • 8849

                #8
                Pragmatic huh?

                I just mean that just because shot dirtbag got away with theft and set a precident that it is legal doesn't make it okay.

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                • montel
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 2606

                  #9
                  check out google's image search... they have millions of copyright images thumbnailed.
                  Barefootsies

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                  • hyper
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 5294

                    #10
                    http://www.legallanguage.com/lawarti...larida003.html

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                    • NightCaster
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 90

                      #11
                      What about using thumbnails of images from sponsor hosted galleries on your own TGP? You don't own the copyright for that thumbnail but you are linking to the sponsor gallery...

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                      • hahmike
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • May 2002
                        • 2488

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NightCaster
                        What about using thumbnails of images from sponsor hosted galleries on your own TGP? You don't own the copyright for that thumbnail but you are linking to the sponsor gallery...
                        uhh... obviously that is fine.

                        like asking if it is okay to use amateur pages banners to link to amateur pages.

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                        • .:Frog:.
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 2123

                          #13
                          Does anyone buy from Charly?
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                          • Que?
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 340

                            #14
                            Does anyone buy from Charly?
                            quite a few i would imagine...

                            Anyway I think the legal term is 'fair use'. Have seen some links on it but dont remember where...
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                            • lucky482
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 252

                              #15
                              Correct me if im wrong but wouldn't thumbnails be considered banners? Which most content license allow use of their content as banners, which allows the banners to be hosted on any domain as long as it links back to the site that holds the license.

                              So why would anyone think thumbnails are illegal..

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                              • GFED
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2002
                                • 8121

                                #16
                                Originally posted by lucky482
                                Correct me if im wrong but wouldn't thumbnails be considered banners? Which most content license allow use of their content as banners, which allows the banners to be hosted on any domain as long as it links back to the site that holds the license.

                                So why would anyone think thumbnails are illegal..
                                Most sites use them for blind links...
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                                • Fletch XXX
                                  GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 60840

                                  #17
                                  Notice the fools who fight for fair use dont own any copyrights to anything.

                                  If you did, you wouldnt hide behind such minute details.

                                  I take plenty of pics, and everyone of them I post has my URL on it, for a reason, I dont trust one fuck when it comes to my own images.

                                  Just think if all the pics of my herbs I post, some fools were collecting them and making a site about them and popping "Piss test" pills on the pages, thats cool right?

                                  Fuck no.

                                  I mean afterall, its just a pic of marijuana I found in google right?

                                  No, someone took it. me.

                                  My pics are my pics, dont use em.

                                  Fuck fair use.

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                                  • Chris R
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2001
                                    • 1151

                                    #18
                                    I see people arguing all the time they don't want their pictures thumbnailed (mostly non adult) and even people that DO NOT WANT search engines visiting their pages.

                                    You should see all the bitching on some of the google boards about google caching their pages and the image search. I have made thousands of dollars off of googlke image search and cache traffic.

                                    Sometimes people shoot themselves in the foot. Thumbnails in these types of cases almost always indirectly help the photographer and their clients.

                                    Copyright is a legal protection to encourage artists - it is not an absolute license for all eternity.

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                                    • kmanrox
                                      aka K-Man
                                      • Oct 2001
                                      • 29295

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                      it's true unless you are going to use Charly's content where special rules apply.
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                                      • kmanrox
                                        aka K-Man
                                        • Oct 2001
                                        • 29295

                                        #20
                                        if there is precedent i would like to know, and so would any thumbnail preview tgp webmaster as we host thumbnails submitted to us by apparent licensed users, but technically the thumbnails preside on our server..
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                                        • &lt;IMX&gt;
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2002
                                          • 2728

                                          #21
                                          See the "I wish APIC would fucking DIE !"
                                          I posted some links to thumbnail articles there.
                                          Interesting stuff.
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                                          • Sly_RJ
                                            Live Hard - Die Hard
                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 17042

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                            Notice the fools who fight for fair use dont own any copyrights to anything.

                                            If you did, you wouldnt hide behind such minute details.

                                            I take plenty of pics, and everyone of them I post has my URL on it, for a reason, I dont trust one fuck when it comes to my own images.

                                            Just think if all the pics of my herbs I post, some fools were collecting them and making a site about them and popping "Piss test" pills on the pages, thats cool right?

                                            Fuck no.

                                            I mean afterall, its just a pic of marijuana I found in google right?

                                            No, someone took it. me.

                                            My pics are my pics, dont use em.

                                            Fuck fair use.
                                            All the pictures that you post, did you shoot those?
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                                            • Fletch XXX
                                              GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 60840

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                              All the pictures that you post, did you shoot those?
                                              The ones on my servers yes. Unless I own a license to them.

                                              If I *link* a picture here, that cannot be compared to someone *gathering* someone elses images.

                                              The REASON I link them is so I dont put them on my server and host them myself, which would be theft.

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                                              • Sly_RJ
                                                Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                • Feb 2002
                                                • 17042

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                                The ones on my servers yes. Unless I own a license to them.

                                                If I *link* a picture here, that cannot be compared to someone *gathering* someone elses images.

                                                The REASON I link them is so I dont put them on my server and host them myself, which would be theft.
                                                Valid point.

                                                I can just imagine the reactions on their face when they look through their logs...
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                                                • foe
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2002
                                                  • 5246

                                                  #25
                                                  Link to this?

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