Thank you for your answers, tho i'm almost blind now :p

another proof that postcount doesn't mean shit... :2 cents:

Awesome stuff :thumbsup

I've got a question and I hope you guys don't take this the wrong way.

Why are you so opposed to advice? I've sent a few emails your way with a few suggestions as to how Cybercat could better themselves and received no reply. I also have friends that have given you advice and you blew it off as well. Is cybercat so great it is beyond advice? The impression you've always given me is that you honestly don't give a shit about what anybody thinks, you are always right and as long as you have the hun you really don't care. Is this the case?

No more TGP elite dinners for you ;)

DH

Great stuff! and always a pleasure doing business with you folks.

:thumbsup

hahaha rough!

CyberCat Advice
 

Hi Shap. CyberCat and myself in particular take advice constantly. We listen and evaluate and take action on it. Action can also be not taking the advice. As advice is only a suggestion by a person for their own personal needs usually. If it applies to our business and can run more efficiently I am all for it. Some of the advice is out of our scope. We cannot and will not tell the TGP owners how the should do their business. We also make suggestions and give advice but it is not always acted on and I take no offence to it. You know the old adage "Advice is worth exactly what you pay for it"
But anytime you or anyone has an idea that we can look at please feel free to send it to me [email protected]. I always feel there is room for improvement in anything. Except Parney. :thumbsup

Mark G.
CyberCat Inc.
http://cybercatinc.com/page.php?id=1

PS The red font was so you would have to focus to read it. I guess it worked.

thank you for the awesome interview mark!

That is one great interview pal.

50 interviews with Cybercat....

Is there any particular reason why CyberCat didn't expand it's TGP portfolio in the past few years to some of the other large TGPs that didn't have a advertising broker?

Do you want to buy ....... ThePornProfessor.com

lol

.........

no kidding :thumbsup

interesting read

:)

Off topic because it's not adult related but curious:

Do you suffer any chronic body pains as a result of your days as a stunt man. Have all the broken bones and shredded muscle tissue caused you discomfot in the years after? I remember somebody telling me Evil Kenievel (sp?) and people like him usually wind up in all sorts of pain in their latter years because of what their body has gone thru. If you do, do you have any regrets about being a stunt man?

*bump* for more questions harrasing CyberCat :D

Mark,

You are a marketing company with alot of potential clients on GFY and you have a total of 8 posts. That is definitely not representing your clients. You've got JJJ, Worldsex and Al4a that are not sold out and yet you have absolutely no board presence trying to sell them out. I've never heard of or seen Cybercat go out and recruit business for their clients. So tell me how do you justify to Pierre and J taking a 30% or 20% commission for selling spots to webmasters they send to you? If i were those guys I would want to know the answer to that question. I know you can sit back and drive around in your nice cars while the hun sells itself out. But what about your other clients? Do you care about your other clients or are you riding the Hun into your retirement? Personally I think it would benefit your NON Hun clients greatly is you had a better presence on the boards and tried to actively get them more business.


I know you claim you have no competition but you know that is absolutey FALSE. Everybody has competition. Competition is healthy. Claiming you have no competition is claiming you believe you are a monopoly. The only monopoly you have is selling for the hun. Is that how you define your business? As a company selling for the hun? I thought Cybercat was a middleman that sold gallery spots and advertising for tgps. How is that different from what GTS is doing? The only difference I see is that GTS actively tries to sell out their clients. I know GTS works hard to have fairly priced spots and to try to get as much business as possible for their clients. I don't ever see cybercat doing that and i personally find alot of the NON hun spots cybercat sells are overpriced. I'm not sure what the cybercat pricing formula is but it definitely isn't one based on supply and demand. I don't know the exact prices because your website doesn't even list the prices or the spots for sale. I'm not sure if you guys like to keep things a secret but webmasters don't like to waste time. We are impatient. We are gifted by making alot of money and want everything done as fast as possible. As a gallery buyer i want to know what spots are available and at what cost. At that point it's one email to submit the order and then BAM done. The way you do it now it takes 3 to 5 emails back and forth and waiting around before business gets rolling. As a gallery buyer that is too much time and I'm sure it's costing your clients and yourself money.

Those were just a few things off the top of my head. I'm not attacking you. I'm just asking you questions based on your answers and on how you do business. If it's an real ambush interview it can't hurt to ask you some real questions. Not only the ass kissing questions Sleazy fed you.

I agree so much on Shaps post

I agree with Shap.

Another thing is how it's bloody impossible to get a SCHEDULED spot on the Hun anymore. It's always the same people that keep rebilling and having the spots on a daily basis with the same sponsors that the surfers have seen a million of times.

I don't understand why you can't give a fair place to all your clients. I've invested over $70,000 with Cybercat in 2001-2002 and now I get listed once in a while when someone cancel his spot... because I stopped advertising with Cybercat for one year. I'm considered as a "reject" or something, even if I can provide 15-20 galleries upfront.

I think it would be fair if you rotate the advertising possibilities for ALL your clients. Not the 10% on the top that keep submitting the same Nastydollars galleries over and over since 3 years.

I also agree with Shap that GTS is way more concerned about the clients and the site owners. They care for both and upgrade the price by the demand. You should rise price on the Hun another 20-30% since it's sold out. This might eliminate nastydollars "middleman" submitters and give a real chance to unique and fresh advertisers. :winkwink:

sleazy i love this series of yours great work.

You're not making any sense.
The spots are sold on a first come first serve basis....with some people choosing to auto-renew their ad placements every month.
Get in line like everyone else and have your ads auto renew once you get in....it doesn't seem that difficult

I hear you Lenny. I actually have a complaint on this for both companies.

1. Cybercat doesn't even warn you that your spots are going to expire or that you have to renew. A few times I went to renew and i was told i had to wait 2 or 3 months to get listed again. I think once you buy the spot, the spot should be yours and a week before the renewal you should get an email saying you've got a week to pay for your renewal to keep your spots.

2. Gts auto renews which is great. The only problem is they wait too long before giving a heads up on renewal. I always seem to feel I get an email a day or 2 before the month is up that they need new galleries. I'd love a few extra days (note this is just how it seems to be. They may in fact be giving me more days notice and I'm not noticing.)

Both companies give 5-10 days advanced notice in my experience. That's good considering the fluid nature of buying/selling ad placements.

Mike33 5 days notice with Cybercat loses a hun spot for at least 2 months. You need to renew hun spots more than 3 weeks before the end if you don't want to lose it.

Hiya Shap.

If you have to renew 3 weeks before a 1 month campaign expires you should probably just get on auto-renew.
I can see how it would suck for a first time buyer who doesn't know if he's going to profit from the listings, but for the rest of us, you need to get in or get out IMO.

I agree it would be nice if Cybercat sent out renewal notices, but when it comes to the hun your spot was sold to someone else a month before your links ran in the first place.
So I can see how its easier for them to not have to rush out and try to sell a spot within a week because you declined to renew it.

As for GTS, yeah, I get the renewal notices and go "oh shit I've got 3 days to make 30 links" so a little more notice would be nice.

How did this post turn into a Cybercat V.S. GTS thread? LOL!

Where is the Rodney King "Why Can't We All Just Get Along" Picture when you need it? ;)

DH

BTW Shap, in reference to your post earlier about Cybercat not being aggressive enough trying to sell out the sites.

If the owners of these sites felt they were under represented wouldn't they just bring the advertising back in house or find someone else to represent them? That's the way the market works after all.

Good point and feedback Lenny, I will talk to my guys on Monday about extending that to say 5-7 days.

The only problem I forsee when you warn people so far ahead of time is that they will put off making more galleries because they figure they have a week left to get all the galleries done. Hence losing their spot because they forget to send us their stuff ;)

I'm open to any and all criticism, even if it's as minor as asking Magnus to change his cologne LOL!

DH

i have no complaints with cybercat.

So be really annoying like the domain registrars and send out a notice at 90, 60, 30, 15, 7, 3 and 1 days.
Then send a really annoying one out every 3 days afterwards to let them know their spot expired.....LOL

Sleazy I don't doubt that. I know Mark treats you like a king and so he should. You've done more for his business than anyone else without asking for a thing in return. :thumbsup

Lenny I don't want to drive my customers away! LOL! ;)

DH

Do McDonalds and Burger King use the same Ad Agency?

Now which one of us is Mcdonald's and which one is Burger King? I would prefer to be a taco bell ;)

DH

Hey DH i'd like to be the Weber's of paysites. Pick my niche and DOMINATE! :winkwink:

Ahhh Webers!! I love that place, I always look forward to heading up hwy 11 to Muskokas and stopping off there for a burger :)

DH

I know. Beth's told me all the stories. I've never had the pleasure of that Weber's but did enjoy the Weber's at the airport while they had it (it closed down), best airport food ever!

Is that some sort of veiled reference to how many big macs Sleazy eats?

:1orglaugh