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Old 10-14-2004, 03:01 AM   #1
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What is the best paysite members area management software?

You know, the one that does everything, make automatic updates, thumbnail all galleries, movies, etc.... Help's to keep the best member rebill ratio...

I currently know these 2: updatem and sitedepth.

are there any better ones with a bunch of useful features?
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Old 10-14-2004, 03:03 AM   #2
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You know, the one that does everything, make automatic updates, thumbnail all galleries, movies, etc.... Help's to keep the best member rebill ratio...

I currently know these 2: updatem and sitedepth.

are there any better ones with a bunch of useful features?
if you hold out another week or 2.
youll be able to use the best cms software available.

its cooomiiing.....
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well, maybe you can tell me the features and preliminar price of it?

so i can see if it is worth the waiting
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sitedepth rocks, been using it for 6 months now and its the way to go, plus 400 incl install
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Well, as I already told, updatem have implemented just one of AdultWebware's 4 automatic updates algorythms.

We have removed the per-user rotation few years ago because nobody used it and it were causing several issues which you might find detailedly described in some of the threads via the search function.

Sitedepth.. Well, wish you the best, guys =) I'd say nothing, time will show everything.

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Well, as I already told, updatem have implemented just one of AdultWebware's 4 automatic updates algorythms.
AWW = Updatem?
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No, Updatem are different people. I just stated out the fact that what they've done is nothing new. That already was in AW.

I have no doubts it might work well, but this is just a small part of what AW is capable of.
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if you hold out another week or 2.
youll be able to use the best cms software available.

its cooomiiing.....
Are you sure, we are working on one too
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okay, now that everybody is working on one i suggest you all post features here now, as many people are looking for new solutions, among which are we.

I also know some of the good ones out now will come with new versions within weeks. So ... spill it!
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sitedepth rocks! Dead easy to use and i have a ton of clients that are using it with no complaints (which i can NOT say about the others i have seen)
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There is only one CMS and that is AWW - Adult Web Ware.

This is not only a CMS but also a members area interaction tool. If you want to retain members then AWW is your answer.
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AdultWebWare, and I can not wait until the 15th for 4.0, the new features look fantastic to say the least.
Been using their software for some time now and tried many others. You could not pay me to switch back now.
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sitedepth rocks! Dead easy to use and i have a ton of clients that are using it with no complaints (which i can NOT say about the others i have seen)
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wo what software wins?
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Old 10-14-2004, 02:34 PM   #18
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what is this shit with AWW?

MULTI-DOMAIN FOR 20
SITES: $1700

you mean to tell me if I want to run more than 1 site with it, that is costs $1700????? HAHAHA

i have sitedepth for $399 and it run unlimited sites
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Old 10-14-2004, 03:55 PM   #20
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What about MAS
Works pretty good for us.

AWW is also good but the problem with them is customer service
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Old 10-14-2004, 03:59 PM   #21
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most of the time its the one you build yourself.
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what is this shit with AWW?

MULTI-DOMAIN FOR 20
SITES: $1700

you mean to tell me if I want to run more than 1 site with it, that is costs $1700????? HAHAHA

i have sitedepth for $399 and it run unlimited sites
Yes, and btw you can have basic gallery script to show your personal photos just for $59 or something like that. Just do the search.

Sitedepth and AW are different products.
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What about MAS
Works pretty good for us.

AWW is also good but the problem with them is customer service
I remember you've dissappeared for a while then came back and told me you have married. I have sent you an email with congrats and never heard back from you.

It would be a pleasure for me to know what exact problems did you had with our support since mentioned.
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Btw, Sitedepth doesn't have automated updates.

From the list of their features I can tell that they provide something what our Lite version do for $135. Not sure I understand why do you guys pay $400+ for that.

If you are that lazy, I'll purchase their package one day and prepare the detailed comparison with screenshots, will test it with 400k+ content items, check the speed, will create a free area based on it and drive 10k+ daily visitors to it.

That would be quite interesting experience to have. But now we're busy finalizing our own release, have no time showing drawbacks of the competition, sorry.

As I've said, I really wish you the best, Sitedepth! That were too boring without you. =)

Btw, where's content god? Haven't heard from them for a while. They usually loved to join our threads, too.

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Oh my, Sitedepth doesn't have search. Damn!

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We have not had problems with Adult Web Wares customer service. They really have gone above and beyond to help us. I highly recommend them.
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Well, as I already told, updatem have implemented just one of AdultWebware's 4 automatic updates algorythms.

We have removed the per-user rotation few years ago because nobody used it and it were causing several issues which you might find detailedly described in some of the threads via the search function.

Sitedepth.. Well, wish you the best, guys =) I'd say nothing, time will show everything.

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p.s. Thank you, damonx, bigdog, for taking care.
If I knew your script was only $264.35 I wouldn't have written my own. Your website was blank at the time I was searching for a CMS.

However I wrote it with in mind that I could sell it one day. I can't wait till you list your features on your site
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Can someone factor in cpu hogness, I see too many accounts cpu's getting shredded with bad managment script code.
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However I wrote it with in mind that I could sell it one day. I can't wait till you list your features on your site
Well, wish you a good luck trying to implement at leat 50% of features we have implemented in AW 4.0.

To create such features is just half a deal. Then make them all work at all known and unknown unix servers, with any php versions with any mysql databases, make them work WITHOUT bugs at all, make it easily installed (1-5 minutes), make it self-diagnosis, self-updatable, with error handlers, error logs, universal templates suitable for ANY paysites/freesites/anything else, changeable skins on the fly, caching technology for high load sites, and finally test it on 750+ servers as we did. Then we can speak seriously about you being a "competitor" These are just a few of technical nuances we've been through for the last 3 years. Some of them I will not publish anywhere.

I hope I gave you a little food for thought. Now imagine how much you save purchasing a ready-made and tested professional product from the team of developers who worked just on the one product for the last 3 years.

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We use sitedepth on my site and we are quite happy with it so far

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you know what's strange?
that only AWW guy posts on this thread and try to speak about his product.... other developers can't do that...
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Hi

what about EasyPaySite?

on http://www.sky-masters.com we have an old demo version. so if you are interested to check last version, please contact me via icq or email.
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This one is the best: http://awizsoft.com/paysite/
This is what I use and couldn't be happier with it. Been using it for a year now and it has a ton of features. YOu can also run more than one domain on it, you can have as many as one server will hold and make each members area different...
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you know what's strange?
that only AWW guy posts on this thread and try to speak about his product.... other developers can't do that...
It seems like they are out of ideas and are waiting for the v4.0 to be out to seek for them there. hehe.

Thank you everybody for your interest and discussing us in this thread, we're almost there. Just have to finalize some documentation stuff.

Sammy, Freeadultcontent -- thank you for your precious support!
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Seems like creating CMS for paysites is becoming to be quite popular hobby, hehehe.

Wish you good luck guys!
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Well, as I already told, updatem have implemented just one of AdultWebware's 4 automatic updates algorythms.

We have removed the per-user rotation few years ago because nobody used it and it were causing several issues which you might find detailedly described in some of the threads via the search function.
I swear, you AWW guys never miss an opportunity to talk trash about us.

"Nobody used it"


As I have already told... Updatem is NOT a CMS exactly, and it is not and was never meant to compete directly with AdultWebWare, ContentGod, MAS, etc... these are higher end (and higher priced) "full featured" CMS solutions that may or may not incorporate the simple per-user Update Management features of UpdateM.

If we made a product to compete directly with yours, trust me, you would know.

Per-user updates (different users on different updates) is a feature that we had been using since 1998 or so on our own sites.

Also, with Updatem, you don't pay for licenses per domain, you pay per server. ($549 first server, $99 each additional). So if you have 100 paysites on a single server, you only pay $549 and can use Updatem on all of them.


We made Updatem as a sort of modern-day improvement of what we used to run way back when --

A simple way to give out daily updates (or whatever time frame you want) to your paysite members on a per-user basis so that you could create a site, load it up with updates, and never have to touch it again. When the member gets to the "end", then you can offer them access to another one of your paysites (or add more content to that one).



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Hey goBigtime, I hope you've understood me correctly. When talking "nobody used it" I was talking about the per-user content rotation which we have removed out that, please read me message again. I'm very glad to know that your software is selling well.

I never "speak trash" about anybody, so I think you are not correct on this at all.

I just stated the very mine point of view in the neutral manner as I always do.

I'm sure you've got great product and we could work together very well, because we're serving different markets.

I know that Updatem is not a CMS, its just an updating tool. All I've said was that we had the same algorythm developed for quite a while ago and that's Updatem is nothing new about this exact algorythm. That's it and nothing more than that.

I have also stated that we have up to 4 different automatic updates algorythms, which might cover the needs of Updatem owners.

Please read carefully, I do not have any anger or any type of bad feelings to anybody. I love you all =)

And, traditionally, I do wish you the best!

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If we made a product to compete directly with yours, trust me, you would know.
Hey, that could be kind a great idea of yours.
I would love to have +1 competitor in the area. Join the family
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I never "speak trash" about anybody, so I think you are not correct on this at all.

I'm sure you've got great product and we could work together very well, because we're serving different markets.

Please read carefully, I do not have any anger or any type of bad feelings to anybody. I love you all =)

And, traditionally, I do wish you the best!

I remember not so long ago you said something to the effect of "I'd be surprised if anyone is using Updatem at all" this was amidst other negative & speculatory things you said about the Updatem software in the same thread.

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I remember not so long ago you said something to the effect of "I'd be surprised if anyone is using Updatem at all" this was amidst other negative & speculatory things you said about the Updatem software in the same thread.


Well, that was true, I'm really surprised if anyone uses Updatem, because from our personal experience that algorythm didn't work well for a quite long period of time. And I remember there were a lot of people discussing that for quite a while ago on some thread here on GFY.

Bad to know that this sounds negative to you.

Let me know what else you think is negative about your product so we could discuss it.

I think if your product is selling well, you wouldn't find these notes "negative" as any other note. That is just another point of view. And your negativity is a mark that things are not that good as you wanted them to be.

I think your product will be selling better if you'll make the setup easier. From what I saw at your site is that paysite owner should manually edit paths to each galleries he has to be added to the updates mechanics. I think that might be a pain for ones with 900+ galleries.

As far as I know, Webmasters who are looking to automate their updates doesn't have that much time to spend it on editing such detailed input fields per each update.

Knowing all that from the beginning, we have created as easiest way to start automatic updates as possible. Paysite owner just should pick his desireable content rotation algorythm and specify how many galleries he/she wants to be updated and how often. That takes about 3 minutes, including thinking time for taking decision. That shows the way we do products for -- to be feature-rich, easy-to use and fast to setup.

Here you can see how that works:

http://www.adultwebware.com/_members...d=1&c=rotation

(this is a demo)

A screenshot:


Plus, it is said on your website, after submitting a registration form, that "you are about to enter beta-testing area". I hope you have already tested your product and this is just a typo.
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Old 12-21-2004, 06:53 AM   #46
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if you hold out another week or 2.
youll be able to use the best cms software available.

its cooomiiing.....
It's been 10 weeks now, what do you have?
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Old 12-21-2004, 09:55 AM   #47
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One final bump for the later shift
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:01 AM   #48
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Definetly go for Sitedepth
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:17 AM   #49
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Definetly go for Sitedepth
We already bought that, but i'm running into problems right away. It's not as flexible as I thought it'd be. It's coded in zend as well, so I cannot change minor things myself either. Then there's the video issue. We have over 1000 videos to upload, no way we can do that one by one.

Support is good though, so maybe it will get solved easily, but for now it is not doing what we need.
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:23 AM   #50
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Has anyone previewed the Nats new CMS?

I think that will shake things up....

http://nats.toomuchmedia.com/modules.html

For a little more info
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